Two Of the Same Phones Works OK in TL?

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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Two Of the Same Phones Works OK in TL?

Let's say I buy a T637 or V600 phone and a spouse, friend, or someone else has the exact same phone and is in my car with me.
Will this conflict with anything? Will the TL only be paired with my exact phone or any phone in Bluetooth rage of the same model?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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For example, your T637 is Phone A, your spouse's is B, your friend's is C.

If you successfully pair A to one of your TL's profiles and don't pair B and C to your car, this won't interfere your connection even though ABC are all together on the car.

If A and B seperately pair to your TL, I don't know. I guess your TL will try to hook up the first one TL has detected when you turn your key to Ignition position.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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That's what I needed to know.

I don't think I would try to pair more than one phone with the TL, but I wanted to make sure there would be no interference if two people with the same phone were in the car at the same time.

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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It is paired with the exact phone. For example, the v600 pairs with the TL and the TL pairs with the v600. If there isn't data going back and forth it won't interfere.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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I thought the TL could pair with 6 separate bluetooth phones. Says nothing about the phones being of different model or brand. I presume there must be some way the TL can tell v600 A from v600 B from v600 C.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Six is corrrect. However, 04TL could work with only one at a time. I don't know how they pick up the priority out of all your paired phones.

http://www.acura.com/models/model_co...asp?module=tl#
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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Its my understanding that if you have more than one paired phone in the car you can use a voice command to search for the phone thats not connected and then the system will switch to that phone. The HFL recognizes only one phone at a time. I believe this is in the manual somewhere
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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I agree its six. I also agree its only one phone at a time. What I (and I think others) are confused about is whether the TL can distinguish one specific phone (say a v600) from another of the exact same type. I would think its set up to do this. How, I don't know.

I guess the question is - has anyone purchased the exact same phone for themselves and a family member, paired both of them and then had the TL recognize each, say, when a call comes in on one and then later a call coming in on the other? How does the TL handle this?

I'm curious because I will likley purchase the same phone for myself and my wife and will pair both. When we travel together we'll have both, so I wonder how this will be handled by the TL?
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Contact Johnson Controls costomer support CA 1-888-528-7876. They should have the answer,
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MyJohnson
I agree its six. I also agree its only one phone at a time. What I (and I think others) are confused about is whether the TL can distinguish one specific phone (say a v600) from another of the exact same type. I would think its set up to do this. How, I don't know.

I guess the question is - has anyone purchased the exact same phone for themselves and a family member, paired both of them and then had the TL recognize each, say, when a call comes in on one and then later a call coming in on the other? How does the TL handle this?

I'm curious because I will likley purchase the same phone for myself and my wife and will pair both. When we travel together we'll have both, so I wonder how this will be handled by the TL?
You definitley could pair all of them even though they're the same model. IMHO, HFL will send/store the different codes to different phones. If you have 6 T630s and HFL will paired with 6 varied codes into them, they will work independently when you just bring one into your car. For example, if yours (A) and spouse's (B) have been paired (A in #1 & B in #2) and they're the same model of phone, HFL won't mis-link #2 setting to A when you get into your car.

However, we still don't know either A or B will be picked up if both of you enter the car at the same time.

Also, if you worry about this, I suggest you to disable others' BT feature if they have no need to use it. This could be the best way.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MyJohnson
I agree its six. I also agree its only one phone at a time. What I (and I think others) are confused about is whether the TL can distinguish one specific phone (say a v600) from another of the exact same type. I would think its set up to do this. How, I don't know.
Undoubtedly it's done by the Bluetooth MAC address. I bet the HFL neither knows nor cares about the brand or model of the phones with which it's paired.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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I agree the HFP or TL could car less about what brand it is. Its just that a particular phone or 6 of the same will have a similar bluetooth profile. I'm sure it is by a MAC address that the TL system assigns. Haven't gotten Bluetooth phones, yet.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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In the pursuit of scientific advancement, I performed the following experiment:

I have two SE T616 phones - let's call them Fred and Wilma. I have been using Fred with the TL since last November; Wilma has never been paired with the HFL.

I took them both, along with my cordless landline phone, down to the TL. With Fred powered off, I paired Wilma with the HFL. To verify operation, I placed both an outgoing call and an incoming call. I then powered Fred back up, and placed two more calls (one out, one in). Both calls used Wilma as expected. I then instructed the HFL to switch phones using the "Next Phone" command - it switched to Fred. A third pair of calls was placed; this time, Fred was used, again as expected.

Finally, I turned the car off, powered off Fred, then powered the car back on. It automatically found and paired with Wilma. I forget to test what would happen if the HFL is powered up with both Fred and Wilma also powered up and within range; I suspect it would use the first one it finds, and allow switching via the Next Phone command, if needed. This experiment is left as an exercise to the reader.

I trust this answeres the question sufficiently?
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fuque
... ...to test what would happen if the HFL is powered up with both Fred and Wilma also powered up and within range; I suspect it would use the first one it finds, and allow switching via the Next Phone command, if needed. This experiment is left as an exercise to the reader.

I trust this answeres the question sufficiently?

Thanks for your confirmation. Some ppl did tests before, but you're the one putting them into words. If the last experiment could be done, will be even better.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Man - some people are never satisfied!

It turns out that the HFL will re-select the same phone at powerup that was selected the last time it powered down, even if other paired phones are within range. Thus, if Wilma is selected and you turn off the car, when you turn the car back on Wilma will still be selected if it is within range. If Wilma is not available, it will automatically select Fred.

Anything else you wanna know?
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Well, that clears it up considerably.

I had the misconception that the system could "see" up to 6 phones simultaneously and could "connect" on the fly with the phone that first demands its attention by having an incoming or outgoing call.

In other words, if both Wilma and Fred are active and in Range, and you make an outgoing call with the system using Fred, it works as expected. If you hang up and then, without giving an additional command, you receive a call on Wilma or attempt to make a Call with Wilma, then the system recognizes the demand and switches automatically to Wilma. This is what I thought would happen with up to 6 paired Bluetooth phones. I have three daughters and could imagine them all having phones, paired to the vehicle in the future (they're too young now, but barely).

I see now that I'm likely wrong and that you'd have to use the voice command "Next Phone" for it to do this.

It is encouraging that the system would automatically pick up Fred if its the only phone in Range. Cool.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Well, that clears it up considerably.

I had the misconception that the system could "see" up to 6 phones simultaneously and could "connect" on the fly with the phone that first demands its attention by having an incoming or outgoing call.

In other words, if both Wilma and Fred are active and in Range, and you make an outgoing call with the system using Fred, it works as expected. If you hang up and then, without giving an additional command, you receive a call on Wilma or attempt to make a Call with Wilma, then the system recognizes the demand and switches automatically to Wilma. This is what I thought would happen with up to 6 paired Bluetooth phones.
Nope. Fred remains selected by the HFL, and Wilma rings independently just as it would if it wasn't in the car at all.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Garage thread... thanks, fuque...

Originally Posted by fuque
Man - some people are never satisfied!

It turns out that the HFL will re-select the same phone at powerup that was selected the last time it powered down, even if other paired phones are within range. Thus, if Wilma is selected and you turn off the car, when you turn the car back on Wilma will still be selected if it is within range. If Wilma is not available, it will automatically select Fred.

Anything else you wanna know?

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Originally Posted by MyJohnson
Well, that clears it up considerably.

I had the misconception that the system could "see" up to 6 phones simultaneously and could "connect" on the fly with the phone that first demands its attention by having an incoming or outgoing call.

In other words, if both Wilma and Fred are active and in Range, and you make an outgoing call with the system using Fred, it works as expected. If you hang up and then, without giving an additional command, you receive a call on Wilma or attempt to make a Call with Wilma, then the system recognizes the demand and switches automatically to Wilma. This is what I thought would happen with up to 6 paired Bluetooth phones.
Nope. Fred remains selected by the HFL, and Wilma rings independently just as it would if it wasn't in the car at all.

"Next Phone" command seems necessary.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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Thanks for the experiment. That's what I wanted to know.
I think that's exactly how I would want it to work, much to my surprise.

The only better thing I could think of is if you could pair a phone and tie it to Driver 1 and Driver 2.
In other words, you could tie Driver 1 to Fred and Driver 2 to Wilma (say, a spouse's phone) so that when the car smelled Driver 1 it would automatically select Fred and select Wilma when Driver 2 was detected.

But it seems to work pretty well as is.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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... but being that I have AT&T Wireless it doesn't matter whether my T616 is paired - it still has difficulty sending and receiving calls...

The most common command I use is "redial"
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