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I have an '06 TL with Navigation. I also have the clock problem. I just read through this thread and see you recommend upgrading to the '07-08 screen and DVD unit. Are you talking about the DVD 6 changer/radio/tape unit in the dash or the Navi DVD in the trunk or both? I found an '08 Navi Display (only) without the radio/tape/changer for $80 at a local junkyard. I can't tell from the junkyards online info if they also have the trunk mounted Navigation DVD. I'm assuming the '07-08 Navigation system still uses a DVD drive in the trunk like the '06 does.
Will a '08 Navigation display plug in to the '06 changer/tape/radio unit or do both units have to be the same?
Do you have a thread about your conversion or is it too simple?
You mentioned a guy in Florida that sells adapter plugs for the conversion. How do I contact him? Email? Phone?
I'm not interested in HFL or XM radio. I don't use them. I've already replaced the info display above the middle vents with an '07 unit because it went intermittent on me and my futzing around with DeOxit solvent and a soldering iron didn't solve the problem. I just made sure the Ebay one I bought had the same connector and it works fine. I got tired of pounding on the dash to see the clock and HVAC settings.
Many thanks for all the great info. An updated Navigation system would be nice. I only have 82k miles on my TL. I just did my first cam belt/water pump change. I love this car.
I have an '06 TL with Navigation. I also have the clock problem. I just read through this thread and see you recommend upgrading to the '07-08 screen and DVD unit. Are you talking about the DVD 6 changer/radio/tape unit in the dash or the Navi DVD in the trunk or both? I found an '08 Navi Display (only) without the radio/tape/changer for $80 at a local junkyard. I can't tell from the junkyards online info if they also have the trunk mounted Navigation DVD. I'm assuming the '07-08 Navigation system still uses a DVD drive in the trunk like the '06 does.
Will a '08 Navigation display plug in to the '06 changer/tape/radio unit or do both units have to be the same?
Do you have a thread about your conversion or is it too simple?
You mentioned a guy in Florida that sells adapter plugs for the conversion. How do I contact him? Email? Phone?
I'm not interested in HFL or XM radio. I don't use them. I've already replaced the info display above the middle vents with an '07 unit because it went intermittent on me and my futzing around with DeOxit solvent and a soldering iron didn't solve the problem. I just made sure the Ebay one I bought had the same connector and it works fine. I got tired of pounding on the dash to see the clock and HVAC settings.
Many thanks for all the great info. An updated Navigation system would be nice. I only have 82k miles on my TL. I just did my first cam belt/water pump change. I love this car.
The display for $80 is a good deal, but you need to contact Martin in FL for the adapter to be able to plug it into an '04/5/6, $55 w/shipping. His # 201-889-7012. Next, you want to find a good working Nav DVD drive from an '07/8 which plugs right in. Then you want to get a 2021 Nav DVD disk to bring things 100% up to date. No more clock issues! I've NEVER looked back once since doing this update, and you won't either.
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Good luck
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Can you please disclose your magic Martin's whereabouts, so I can get a hold of him? Or at least give a link to source where I can order this adapter-harness to retrofit 2007 display n my 2006 Acura TL?
Hi,
Can you please disclose your magic Martin's whereabouts, so I can get a hold of him? Or at least give a link to source where I can order this adapter-harness to retrofit 2007 display n my 2006 Acura TL?
I noticed something interesting about the '07/8 Nav system yesterday. Driving from Georgia to Alabama, the clock changed the time from Eastern to Central time zone!
Another reason to dump the '04/5/6 Nav system for the '07/8 !
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I noticed something interesting about the '07/8 Nav system yesterday. Driving from Georgia to Alabama, the clock changed the time from Eastern to Central time zone!
Another reason to dump the '04/5/6 Nav system for the '07/8 !
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Do you know if the 07/08 clock is a plug-n-play into an '06?
2004 BB tl with nav, clock issue, working software fux
Have Acura tl with nav l Called customer service today. Told them clock was not right time and could not adjust. Told him known Issue and he agreed. Got case number. There may be software fix that may be issued (new DVD?) another person to call me back. Don't want to tear out dash and replace screen and DVD nav....yet.
I called Acura today regarding the case I've had open on this issue since the end of April. Same message as April: "they're aware of it, it's been escalated to 'engineering', no clue if/when there will be a fix, they will let me know if/when it's been resolved".
I called Acura twice at the number above and last week I got two voicemails from Acura that they’re working on the issue. Unlike my cracked dashboard or failed paint, maybe this will get fixed. Here are my voicemail transcripts:
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“Hi this message is for ____ this is Louis with American Honda and Acura in the car technology support I was just reaching out to you regarding your issue with your 2004 TL at the Navi clock issue um so we've been able to exhaust all our troubleshooting regarding this issue um so it is something that we have escalated to our engineer so if you could am actively investigate this issue on their behalf I'm so once you have an update or a solution regarding this you will be notified I did some thing that they are working to apply a global fixed so that way able to take care of all the vehicles are experiencing this issue I'm and so that way ________ ________ ____ happening again so it is something that is actively being investigated I'm so once there's a solution update you will be notified regarding this particular issue if you have any further questions or any further issues or would like for the information you could always reach out to us would be able to provide information or assistance regarding this but as of now we currently are still investigating this issue um we were able to escalate it to our engineers and more specialized so that we could go ahead and find a solution for this on the global scale but um if you have any further questions you can reach back out to us and I do apologize about the situation thank you have a wonderful rest of your day…”
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“Hi this message is for _____ this is Luis with American Honda and Acura in the car technology support I was just reaching out to you again regarding your issue with your navigation club for your 2004 TL um I just wanted to inform you that the issue has been escalated to our servicing engineers they are actively investigating this issue and they're working on getting a more global fix so that way to take care of the issue that all the vehicles are having him and to make sure it doesn't happen again for this issue with currently being investigated on once there is an update or a solution you would be notified but if you have any further questions or any further information you could always reach out to us as well and I'm not call back number is going to be 888-528-7876 hours of operation are Monday through Friday 6 AM to 5 PM Pacific standard time I'm that way if you have any further information that you want to provide as well or any more questions you could reach out to us would be able to provide assistance I do apologize about situation but we are working on getting that fixed as soon as possible thank you and have a wonderful rest of your day…”
Not for me, they didn’t say anything remotely close to that. What they did say was the opposite. No known cases of it they recommend a reset to the system. The steps and page number given weren’t even in the my owners manual. That is the main reason I will never buy an Acura ever again. Just disconnect the battery like 1 minute before 1pm. And that’s how I set it. I am over it.
1. Only the display, not the radio as the '07/8 is NOT plug compatible. Your original radio should work.
2. The '07/8 DVD drive, yes as it IS plug compatible
3 A clock is a clock. Again, if you have Navigation now, your existing clock display is the same
4. The adapter harness from Martin is a must for plugging an an '07/8 screen into an '04/5/6
My wife commented on this yesterday—"Hey, look, your clock is right again!" Actually, it's not; it's about three minutes off (when we were on DST, it was about 57 minutes slow).
I called them on my TL and basically they are useless. I purchased a new disc and nothing. Just disconnected the battery and waited till 1PM. I have 59k miles on my car. Almost brand new. Probably sell it in about 6 months. I just had the engine and transmission seals along with a bunch of stuff done. That’s my only issue now. I’ve probably have the lowest mileage TL on the forum!
Polished my front headlights last week.
There will never be a fix. The fact is Acura doesn't give a shit about us. That's why I turned my '04 into an '07. Besides, the new Consumer Reports annual auto issue just came out, and the Acura brand is now rated nowhere near the top, way down the list with Chevrolet and Ford. In fact, not only are they thumbs down on the new TLX, but it's NOT even on the recommended buy list either. The Accord got rated far superior for build quality and reliability and IS on their recommended buy list. Acura still seems to think their shit doesn't stink and that they're gonna make it on their name. The ILX got practically the lowest ratings in its class! After all, that car is nothing more than a glorified Civic tuned to run on premium. Meanwhile, Mazda, BMW, Toyota, Lexus, Honda, and Subaru got top honors. Sad what's happened to Acura.
Ran into a guy today with a '16 TLX who swore the '03 TL he previously had was far superior and probably the best car he ever owned.
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My experience over the last 3-5 years has been similar. I've had a couple TLX's as loaners when my 06 TL was at the dealer and the TLX's seem/feel far inferior and way more cheaply made than my 06. The loaners convinced me not to buy another Acura.
My 06 is in very good shape (I bought it in 09 with just over 11k on it) with about 130k on it now. I'll keep her as long as I can.
Stopped by Open Road Acura this Morning to pick up a mirror switch and asked a service advisor about the '04/5/6 Nav clock issue. I was told point-blank that Acura is NOT doing anything and has no plans whatsoever of fixing the problem. So if you're one of those hopefuls thinking Honda Motor Company is really working on it, your wish is officially extinguished. Upgrading to the '07/8 Nav system is about your only alternative.
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Im not delusional as many here are.
If they havent even admitted to using the same FAULTY chipset year after year that caused this repeat problem over the course of several years of TL releases, then they arent even thinking of dealing with the situation. Clearly there was a point though, where they 'bought an effen vowel' and stopped sourcing whatever chips were involved more recently, those probs arent showing on their models. (yet??)
Just a host of disappointing performance and manufacture issues that we older models dont have.
My GPS/Clock update: I waited until the WRONG DATE that I cant change, came up to a new calendar year change. In the GPS menu of diagnostics menu (hack), it went into the new WRONG year. It didnt trigger the self healing gift that one other Acuziner reported, some other thread. The calendar in consumer menu set refuses to go past the same WRONG year and month and day. The Nav gps works on location map as supposed to. None of the clocks can be adjusted, not the mechanics menu access or consumer's. The Bug continues on...
Overall, I am not touching the sunroof gearing, (skip or strip sounds, its sketch operating, will remain closed perma) dont want to have the liner removed (break old plastic tabs, assured) and introduce squeaks rattles for parts I cant seem to source with assurance.
Had the typical damned battery phantom drain issue, after it killed a battery in short order and was near finished taking down the new glass matte heavy duty replacement, I also came back to Acuzine and did the suggestion to just PULL THE DAMN BLUETOOTH module entirely, now I dont have a dead battery all the time. ALSO easy to do, sadly sacrifices voice control (I was the kind who preferred eyes forward, voice controlled enviro control temp changes etc). But oh well. Beats 100s per battery replacement (Canada... EXPENSIVE EVERYTHING)
Not bothered by seat memory issue thats common, the seat still adjusts. The workarounds didnt seem to work for me.
Dealt with the mirrors as per suggestions on this site, dared to take apart and relube to avoid ratcheting skips, works like a charm, was easy to do, I LOVE IT when ppl show you its actually easy and not worth 100s to get overpaid Acura dealership to do it.
The 6 cd multi disc player sudden dysfunction was another common prob. Tried following vids, took apart the whole dash, didnt dare try taking unit apart (microscopic SPRINGS!), so put it back with them stuck in still.
(Sidenote: THIS IS WHY I HATE ALL IN ONE units of anything... when it was unhooked, the features of the entire center column were gone... physical buttons that controlled, air, temps, ANYTHING you can think of controlling... it wasnt 'just the radio'. If a different chipset for some other part of the car goes out to something critical, like engine control or operation or something you cant even think of, that has me worried. Again, workarounds are fine but admit thats what they are. If a vital component has a total fail on something more important, theres no excuse for it not being fixed by Acura. FIXED, not worked around by owners and out of their pockets.
If they eff'ed ppl on the Nav chip prob, who knows what else lurks in other years, models, chip/computers... with a bad consumer rating now, I have no confidence from this firsthand experience of Acura dodging of responsible administration.)
While it was all apart, I accessed the unused port in behind, since I couldnt play CDs any more...
Canada did NOT have XM in 2004 my model year, but the US installed hardware was there. Used the sketchy working/not working GROM device plugin to XM port to give myself USB digital audio input and ipad control, sounds awesome when it works.
While dash also apart, followed thru with the vid on how to hack your Nav menu options to inc. live Trip data and short cut menu to diagnostics, on screen Air control (so much easier to see/hit while driving than the poor backlit buttons), added my own custom boot screen image and all the rest...
The rear trunk nav disc player still works, getting finicky with years of accumulating dust invasion I keep trying to clean out (I dont haul crap, cut down logs, in the trunk, that helps), and was the only way I could get that hack working (the PCMCIA port didnt work... only good for saving those tech diagnostic records from hacked menu system)
So at this point, when I see others here and there saying when they tried the 'pull the battery cable for 1 pm reset' but it making their clocks freeze at all zeros, Im even hesitant to do that now. Plus am not confident I wont lose the hack and have to try redoing it (it took several tries; the instructions were easy the multi tries wasnt). Im waiting for any mandatory battery removal or replacement, whatever I work on needing that. There will be a time the trunk player packs it in, then hooped all but for the GROM I guess.
All in all ppl on Acuzine have saved me 'dealership costs' amounting to probably an entire used Toyota Corroda for kick around in salty winters, like I used to have (This TL is immaculate, underbody et al, corrosion non existant, was winter stored for well over a decade until Toyota packed it in).
Its been satisfying learning from others how to WORKAROUND and fix the daunting things.... but I totally and forever will resent Acura skipping out on blatant, obvious, FLAWED and failed crap like this BUG, not user caused issue by normal use. No excuse for it, unacceptable, DISAPPOINTING. So ppl, DONT HOLD YOUR BREATHE, its been near two decades now, TOO LONG.
THE REST of the car, as pointed out by many classic TL owners operators, is a dream. I wouldnt tolerate 2000km drives in anything else. It was made to tour, no doubt. I wont be buying a newer Acura if anything unwarranted happens to this one.
Got tired of waiting for Acura to get off their asses, so I purchased a '07/8 screen and Nav DVD drive on ebaY. Got an adaptor for the screen from Martin in FL to be able to plug in (retrofit) the newer screen. What a difference! Not only does the clock and calendar now work correctly, but the new graphics and functionality are a dream. It's much faster on bootup too! I highly recommend those of you out there with an '04/5/6 TL with Navigation to do the same thing. You'll NEVER look back! An updated 2021 version of the white disk is coming out next month to boot!
I'm now have a TL with all the things we were supposed to have for 2004. Daytime running lights, a Backup Camera, '07/8 Turn Signal Mirrors, and the '07/8 Nav system.
Just a fyi but I'm sure you already know this, my 07 Type S did the hour ahead jump today (first time I've been in the car since Friday) I'll just cancel the auto DST and tell myself the clock is an hour ahead until March...
Like the back inside cover of my favorite magazine says every month, HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
My '07/8 Nav system clock jumped an hour ahead. I can't set it despite trying on the setup screens. No doubt they'll treat this like they have the '04/5/6 clock problem.
WTF Acura?!?!?
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My 05 MDX did the same thing today, first time I drove it in the new year. The second time I drove the car I was unable to adjust clock any longer. I'm now wondering if this will have the same issue as well....
My clock jumped as well and after posting on Instagram over 70 people messaged me saying they had the same clock issue. The only fix we came up with is to find out what time the clock adjusts to after disconnecting the battery. For example after the clock issue mine now resets to 1. So at 1258 I unplugged the battery and at 1 reconnected. Now the time is right and I’ll have to do that every time my battery is disconnected.
apparently someone told me that Acura only programmed so many years into their software so many Acuras and Hondas have the clock issue this week. Pretty crazy.
I posted on Instagram and around 80 had the same issue this week across Acuras and Hondas.
sucks
i did the battery reset at the time it kept resetting to so hopefully it stays like that until the next daylight time change or the next time I unplug the battery for car work
I recently discussed the issues concerning my '05 Acura TL with an Acura/Honda Tier 2 engineer. He indicated my case was last updated in August of 2021 and that they still are actually working on this issue and that they are shooting for an August 2022 completion at the latest. The engineer I spoke with indicated that they are not only working on correcting the clock issues but doing in a way that allows owners to maintain their previous destinations & personal addresses they stored.
You can call 888-528-7876 and talk with a tech. The more people call to open a ticket concerning these issues may push them faster for a solution.
Ok, so I have an 04 TL w/NAVI and had this same issue. I decided to upgrade to the 07-08 NAVI system as not having the clock in sync would drive me crazy! Now that it's 2022 the 07-08 unit is not syncing and having the exact same issues as the 04-06 models. Is anyone else having this issue or if I get a new NAVI DVD will it fix the issue? (I know the NAVI disc is old but did not care to get a new one as it's not much use to me)
This is so frustrating, UGH!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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