oh it can be done... anything can be done with lots of money... my thought is you would have to replace the antenna and rcvr...and then rewrite the software programming for the car... basically go buy a portable siruis tuner if youw ant it... you would probably spend more money programming the TL to use sirius than to buy a new car with it already in it...

 

This is very disappointing. It may actually be the deciding factor on whether I purchase this car or not. I thought I had decided as of yesterday, but this may push me over the edge to the Infinity.

 

HAHAHHAAH NO DONT GET INFINITI! I have the FX35 right now... NOTHING but problems... it is in for the 6th time to fix the sunroof leaking... headlights dont work, gas tank doesnt fill up past 3/4, umm interior lights dont work... oh crap theres more... i cant remember what.. oh yea the satellite radio shuts off after 60 minutes...only way to get it to work again is by turning car on and off... rattle in rear of the car somewhere (cant figure out where)... passanger window squeels on the way up and down...

i have a friend with the G35 (sedan not coupe) and transmission had to be replaced a month after getting it... still has some issues with the car... not sure exactly what..

oh and ontop of it all... the infiniti dealer here doesnt give a crap about you as a customer..once you buy it they dont care anymore... i always thought it was because they are the only dealer in probably 150 mile radius... so they can say oh well u have no choice but to come to us... i have read that a lot of infiniti dealers suck though

trust me get the acura.. i had a tsx (granted the technician forgot to replace the radiator cap when servicing it, and melted my engine), but aside from that it was a great car... no major problems... i was mad at acura then which is why i didnt buy the TL at the time... but that was a mechanic error...not a problem from manufacturing... so if infiniti fails to fix it, and if they are forced to buy it back under the lemon law, im getting the TL..... the service from acura is so much better than from the infiniti dealer...after they screwed up my engine, they immediately bought teh car back and appolgized repeatedly...

just my 2 cents... acura is a lot better than infiniti/nissan

 

bj

The way these guys a bleeding money, you have to be right. The sooner the better

 

From Sirius:

So, does anyone know exactly what this means? You need to mount a new antenna, a new tuner and a new translator module? Sounds ugly.

 

Actually since the XM Tuner is on the right side of the trunk just under the rear deck, you could probably mount all this crap on the same spot as the current XM Tuner and make a very small hole in the back deck and have the Antenna on the deck instead of on the roof.

Or drop the headliner and pull out the XM Antenna. There are 2 wires for the XM Antenna that end up down at the XM Receiver in the trunk, so if the Sirius Antenna requires only 2 wires (not including ground) you could theoretically just splice the excisting cable rather than running new. All in all, if Soundgate is taking care of the XM to Sirius Hardware translation, the other stuff should be relatively easy.

 

So what is being said is...this soundgate adapter is going to let you use your navi screen to control the sirius like you can for the XM?

 

Yeah the soundgate adapter will do that ... problem is they haven't even built a prototype. They just have it on "the list". I e-mailed them a month ago to find out directly.

 

Acura needs to address the lack of access to Sirrus (and a way to connect an iPod or other MP3 player) at the factory. Design a system that can access either or both satellite services, even if that means leaving a slot to plug in a module with a special decoder for each.

Also, a "TiVo" feature should be in the radio too. I record Howard daily at home using AudioHijackPro with one of my older computers (a Beige G3 Mac), then burn a weeks worth of shows (almost 26 hours) to CDR (I can't get the show good at work by radio). I could probably get up to 60 hours of talk radio (with better MPEG compression) if I played around.

1GB flash memory is now about $77 and dropping. That could yield maybe 100 hours of talk radio recording time.

Imagine you tell your TL or RL to record Howard and Rush every day. Then you can listen when you can or want.

Acuras next gen recievers should have:
- XM and Sirrius capabilty
- a slot on the front of the radio for a flash memory card (CF, SD, whatever format will eventually let you reach 10GB+)....then this memory could be used to record shows off the radio for time shifting, or let you play songs from your personal music collection.

Jeff-

 

Tivo for the car ... now that is original. Is that your idea or did you hear it elsewhere?

 

Not a completely new idea. Radios with slowed down cassette tapes have been around for a couple years. But I suppose I can take credit for the flash memory slot on the dash and using it to record to and play your MP3 music library from

By the way the 6 disk CD/DVD player in new RL (which I hope is my new car in 12 to 24 months) can play "MP3 formatted disks" (yea!!)...so it can read CD's with MP3's...and sounds like DVD's with MP3's....if so that's 6 x 4.7GB (minimum) = 28GB of music/talk radio storage. Makes me happy

But Acura should still add a way for the audio system (& steering wheel) to control external audio devices like a Sirrius reciever and/or MP3 device. (they should design the antenna to accomodate both XM & Sirrius too).

Jeff

 

....oh, and the main issue with using your car as a radio "TiVo" is power consumption. But if the radio is not driving the speakers the hit on the battery might not be to bad.

And with one reciever per band (AM/FM/XM/Sirrus) you could only list to what was being recorded on that band, or something on another band at the same time. Still not bad.

 

Here..this should help you out with going over to sirius radio...
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=722

 

What am I missing .... under compatibility it says:
Compatibility & Notes:
» Compatible with all 2001-05 GM "Class 2- Radios" XM-Satellite Ready radios (w/ 'BAND' Button) listed above
» NOT COMPATIBLE WHEN FACTORY XM IS CONNECTED


Last I checked:
We do NOT drive a GM vehicle
We do have factory Xm ....

navicache .. were you on the wrong web page or in the wrong forum?????

 

I just bought my 05 TL four days ago. And I hate the XM radio!!!!! What terrible sound.

Has anyone noticed the same thing? It sounds like "glorrified AM".

 

Matlack you may be listening to the talk channels or the weather and traffic. they run those at lower quality to save bandwidth for things that are more important, like music

there will BE NO radiot hat gets both in ANy car for many years. sirius chipsets are WAY far behind. Xm has a portable radio the Myfi which is like an ipod. Sirius isnt there yet at all!

here is the black and white of both

XM
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Deeper Music playlists by FAR... less repeats
Some channels have DJs while some do not for those who want just music... the djs are human like
None are controlled by clear channel. they do it all
Sports...They have Indy Car, Nascar til 2007, MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL... an amazing 24-7 baseball channel (175), college football and basketball... they have ESPN Radio which has other games as well.
You will get a better signal. More repeaters and better delivery system. Youw ont lose the signal. Its a fact.
The sound quality is better, if you like things more natural and less popped up like you get with fm
GM ins an investor

Sirius
------
More reptition lists... same music over and over
More dance channels
NFL (Th7ats for the living room with friends and ribs. not the car)
NBA
NHL
(although ESPN radio carries some that is also on XM)
Signal will have problems more often
A LOT of Djs that are like the ones from fm. saying the same bla bla bla like fm
Howard Stern coming in 2006

... there wil always be only these 2 companies. There is only that much bandwidth for this....

..and they can not merge.. that is a DOJ item... it would create a monopoly.

Stick with XM in the Acura... If you are an Acura person, you appreciate adventure from a car or you would have a Buick or something. XM is more about adventure. Sirius is more about safeness and boring research music.

 

Honda owns 11% of XM so chances of stock sirius systems showing up in future Honda cars is slim to none.

 

MikeRadio -- my responses (your 'black and white' is a bit skewed to XM):

XM
1. "less repeats" - maybe on some channels. XM is the only one that plays hip-hop (SAME Ja Rule and other 'urban' crap artists) on ALL THREE 'pop' stations (20-22) at once.

2. Channel organization is flawed. Move the mix stations to the top instead of 40s/50s/60s/70s/80s/90s...

3. I hate urban. I hate Christmas music. XM plays too much of both. They even replaced 83-Chrome with Christmas music during the holidays - that's bullshit.

4. Indy Car, NASCAR - who fucking cares?

5. MLB - to quote you - "THAT'S FOR THE LIVING ROOM". I'd rather listen to NFL (track my fantasy team) than a boring 3 hour baseball game - and I'm a baseball fan. During the pre-season I could never catch a game; the closest I found was a rained out A's-Giants game and another game in Spanish.

Sirius
1. More dance stations - honestly this is big for me. I don't go to clubs, I don't dance - but I enjoy the music. 8 stations of GOOD electronic/dance is FAR BETTER than the crap on XM (either BUMP>BUMP>BUMP on 80 or repetitive WKTU-style dance on 81 or go-to-sleep trance on 82).

2. Howard Stern - I can't get this in Atlanta, and it's worth at least part of my monthly fee.

3. Signal problems - get a new car, man. Early XM receivers aren't as good as the new ones. and ACTUALLY, the XM signal in my TL cuts out quite often in Atlanta and the boonies.

4. You forget that they give you an Internet subscription for free - XM just starting that in April.


Also look at the auto manufacturers that support XM vs. Sirius - clearly Sirius is on "more desirable" autos, so any issues will be resolved faster than those on XM (since cars include GM and Honda - wow that's impressive...).

 

Howard

 

The vast majority of my clients prefer XM it is suprising to hear that you are wanting Sirius. I have experienced both in my cars and clients and I personally like XM alot.

 

STERN!!!

 

I've been with Sirius since day one and have 3 subs. I recently bought my TL, and now I'm forced to XM.

I have to say I totally perfer the music on Sirius over XM. Honestly I don't know why people on here argue about which is better, because it's personal preference. I've had long term experience with Sirius and about a month with XM. My personal music preference puts me leaning towards liking Sirius's programming over XM.

Jputt: Your typical person doesn't even know Sirius exists, so it's no suprise to me they prefer XM.

Anybody who says Sirius is going out of business is smoking crack! Just because you own $200 worth of stock in XM and it's now worth $400 that Sirius is going out of business? What kind of logic is that? I'm glad I don't take investment advice from you. I've had similar experiences on other car forums where XM people just plain love to hate on Sirius. I honestly don't get it, it makes no sense. Why do you care? If you have XM and like it, then be comfortable with that, and don't hate on the other company. Remember that without Sirius, XM would have no competition and could possibly raise prices and not add more services.

Weird?

 

Can we keep away from the 'which is better debate" ? The posting was asking "How difficult is it to switch from XM to Sirius"...lets keep it to that. This one likes XM, this one like Sirius.... People can debate it like the days are long. Please keep the XM VS Sirius debates on the techie dork boards and not on a car board.

I would ask the Moderators to either ban the "which is better" question or create a sticky where people can debate it till thier fingertips rub down to the bone. Reading posts that are interesting and then turn into XM vs. Sirius debates is frankly becoming boring and defeats the purpose of reading a "How to" or "How can I" valid question and answer chatter. Some people want to share their ideas with others on how to do something...

 

Bump -- any new hardware technology out there to allow us to do this?


As for the folks that claimed Sirius was a sinking ship....

 

There will be by the end of the year, from Directed. Various sites will let you pre-order.

 

Is this even going to be necessary? I would think once XM and Sirius merge there will be a single channel lineup that will be received by both current XM and current Sirius subscribers.

Now what this is going to do to our beloved $77/yr subscription is a different story...

 

IF they merge and there's gonna be a technology issue - they can't just double up on the load on a satellite. For a long while after the merger, Sirius will continue to be on Sirius-tuned radio's and XM on XM-tuned radio's.

 

They have talked about this numerous times on Stern. Once the merger is complete, they will broadcast "certain" shows over each other's broadcast methods. 85% of all sat. radio shows are done via DSL lines anyway. This will be the bandaid required for the short fix.

 

Hey,

New to the forum. I just purchased a 08 F150 HD with Navi and audiophile system and was blown away by the music and quality of the programming offered by Sirrus sat. radio. I understand that both have merged in the U.S but in Canada they are still different. I want Sirrus for my 07 Type S, as after listening to both I prefer Sirrus. It is not available in Canada for the TL. I called XM and confirmed this with them. I cancelled and they offered me $8 a month to stay. I told them to change their programming and offer better quality but the rep stated that there was nothing that they could do to offer these stations that Sirrus offers. Do you think that Honda will give us the consumer the ability to choose between Sirrus or XM ? I hope so. I guess that if this doesn't happen, I will have to use my MP3 Player a lot more...

 

Welcome LMDTL!

Yes - it can be done. Check out this thread https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=sirius

Lots of good info there. Good luck!!