Black_05_TL_6SP

Apparently you have never seen what happens to fiberglass when it is over flexed.

The Haul of a boat is designed as a solid piece first off, the second is they use allot thicker fiberglass then what is used to make a bumper. I have seen what happens to a boat when it hits a rock, rock wins, boat gets new ventilation. Have you never noticed a car with a body kit where the front body kit is all cracked on the front end? This is what happens to it when you bottom it out. Heaven forbid you fill the body lines and bottom the kit, everything goes then. I spent over 3 years doing car show, so I have seen allot of kits on cars and I have seen the results of one small mistake with a fiberglass kit. The urethane is much more forgiving. The paint may crack on a urethane kit, but not the urethane.

As for the boat, I have also seen this. A friend ran my jet ski into a rock. Cost me $3000 to fix the holes in the haul.

This would be why I do not prefer fiberglass kits. Its a real deterrent that they put "poly" in there advertising for it when its clearly not a poly kit.

The kits will look great, there is no doubt about that, but you can never count on every driveway, drive entrance or curb to be the same. So you have to be extra carefull and never get in a hurry with one of these kits. As for the paint, go to your local automotive paint shop and they can mix it based on the paint code on the car. If the paint on a car is taken car of and if the car is garaged, you will not have many problems getting paint to match based on the factory paint code.

I had a 97 prelude with stock paint that I put a body kit on, this was 6 years after the production date, and it match perfect. No blending, no nothing. The hard one to match is the WDP, but this is due to the pearl in it, if it is not mixed well before you spray it, you will have thin spots in the pearl. The colors that fade are candies. They have about a 1 year life expectancy when in the sun all the time. The anthracite should not be hard to match with out blending on a new car. I have had superb luck with getting paint from a PPG dealer. Since the PPG paint is used on most factory vehicles it tends to be right on.

neuronbob

Fiberglass or no, I can't wait to see this kit on a member's car. Bring on the peektors when complete!

Black_05_TL_6SP

peektors?? That is new to me. Yes I agree that it will be nice to see it on a "members" car. It will be something different.

brigsaz

Just wanted to update you guys on things...

Right now we are working on scheduling. They want to make sure they can start working on the car right away and get it off to paint so its not sitting for any length of time waiting for the next step. I should know by the end of the day today when I'll be dropping it off.

Also, as I have the aspec suspension, I will be taking measurements before and after of how low the lowest part of the factory bumbers and skirts are to level ground in relation to the kit once its on. I have only dropped about 3/4" since the suspension was put in from factory height.

Another thing to keep in mind for those of you who are low to the ground... How often are you scraping the black plastic peice under the front bumber? For comparison, I can count on 1 hand how many times I have scraped that peice.

If you want anything specific looked at or compared, please post.

05TLTony

I'm very interested in seeing how it comes out. Post pics as soon as possible.
Thanks

ACCURATEin

Thanks for the update!

I can't wait to get this stock bumper off my TL...the radiator is going to love it.

How flexible is the front bumper? Does it wobble when you pick it up? My guess is that the side skirts are fiberglass and the front bumper is polyurethane. Did anyone think about that or just me?

Black_05_TL_6SP

I doubt it. Urathane kits dont come primer gray, only fiberglass. Not to mention the cost of running a fiberglass and a urathane kit production. It would be twice the cost . Urathane unfinished will be black, if you are lucky it comes with a white flex primer coat on it. As for give, I doubt it has any, ever pick up a finished fiberglass piece? Very ridged. Jason

rondog

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fiberglass is good for showcars becasue it can be modified with filler and fiber glass to make the apearance looke perfect. But it isn't good for a daily driver, just think how many times anybody with an aftermarket lip or bumper has ever scraped, right there, that would be damage and not just where you scraped, but the panel alignment too.

holybear

look, lol idc. i just wanna see pics of this. MAKE THE PICS COME SOONER! LOL have a good day guys.

brigsaz

I'm pretty sure it is a full fiberglass kit. It is pretty stiff when you pick it up. It has some give and woble, but not a whole lot. From what the guys are saying here about fiberglass kts, it doesnt sound like anyone who is slammed is going to want this kit? IDK... I just cant wait till its done.

I take it in on Monday!

ACCURATEin

Unfortunately it does appear to be fiberglass the more i think about it. Fiberglass pieces require more packing when shipping them while urethane can just be thrown in a box and thats it.

I guess i'll just have to use extra caution when negotiating fastfood entrances and what not.

I wonder if this was the kit that was on ebay for a while.

rondog

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It is 100% fiberglass, urethane would be more bendable and come in black with a semigloss liek this:

Black_05_TL_6SP

Hey Ron, on the RJ kit, is it possible to create a air divider to duct the air into the radiator more? Without the grill on it I can see the part or it, but ducting the air straight through it would help with some cooling. BTW that kit is hot, I would take the RJ kit over the versus anyday.

Jason

ACCURATEin

Some of the speedart, hamann, and kleemann bodykits are some type of blend which allows for flexibility, but at the same time they are to cracking. These pieces are all grey just like the picture of this bodykit.

Black_05_TL_6SP

More then likely it is a polyester resin and not a poly-urathane. Blending the two just sounds really wierd, as this would be twicce the cost of producing one at of just fiberglass or urathane. Urathane kits are normally injection molded while fiberglass is either blown in or hand laid into a mold. To different methods of production, I don't see how you would blend the two. I think Ron needs to jump in on this and give his input.

Jason

ACCURATEin

I called Versus Motorsports and inquired about the bodykit.

They developed a resin that allows for more flexibility than traditional fiberglass. Therefore it is indeed fiberglass, BUT the resin polymers are more elastic, which decreases the chance of cracking.

SWEET!

Center air dam come to daddy. My poor radiator. I feel bad for it. Deprived of direct airflow.

My bumper is still on backorder.

brigsaz

I dropped it off on Saturday. I should have it back by the end of the week. I'll keep ya posted.

invincible569

Great!!

lifetimeofwar

Im getting so excited hehe (kid in a candy store) lol

ACCURATEin

I hope it fits and looks awesome.

Anxious to see the results!

ussi

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Me too, this kit is too sickk.

brigsaz

Ok, the kit is off to paint. WOOHOO!! I was able to grab some pics of some modifications that needed to be done for the kit to fit right. One major thing that came up was that the side skirt tabs were done backwards in the mold from Versus. They had to cut them off and re-attach them with fiberglass. There was also one tab that was missing altogther so they had to fabricate one real quick. I also recommend adding mesh to the side holes in the front. I went to lowe's to get a sheet of galvanized mesh so they could redo the entire kit mesh so it would match. You will want to ask Versus to make sure the mesh the entire kit before sending it to you. Otherwise you will probably end up doing the same thing as I did. Will post more pics as I get them

OH! One more thing. The kit is not much lower than the factory front bumber and side skirts. So whatever level you are at now, you should be pretty close to the same ground clearance once this kit goes on.

Front with bumber off


Rear with bumber off


Knotch cut out of metal bar behind front bumber for proper fitment. This was done on both sides of this bar in front


Rear cut out in stock rear bumber for the mesh part of the rear skirt. I think it looks better this way


With rear skirt on


Rear skirt fitment


Rear skirt fitment 2


Rear skirt fitment 3


Front bumber on


Wheel well fitment


Side skirt fitment


Side skirt fitment 2


Front side view


Rear side view

PPLAPW

Not bad at all. I think it will look pretty good one painted. I like it!

Looking at the rear, I think one can easily modify the Aspec rear to have a cut out like that.

Can't wait to see it painted.....

PPLAPW

You should smoke/clear the headlights with the bumper off.

ussi

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Look like its going to turn out awesome

one comment though... Does the rear kit fit flush with the bumper? it looks like there is some space between the kit and the bumper??

brigsaz

As you can see in some of the pics there is some gap, but I won't know how big it will be exactly until it comes back from paint. I am assuming it will be just like the Aspec kit where I will need to use some bodykit tape to keep it on the rear bumper.

Darkcyde024

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yah I agree. it doesn't look like the rear bumper fits well. the skirts and front look ok though. I'm really glad to see someone took another option than just aspec and ron jon. congrats! I can't wait to see the finished product.

ACCURATEin

Good God that front bumper is fantastic.

I can't wait to til mine gets here...it was supposed to be here today which was three weeks from when i ordered it.

Thanks for the pictures of the kit on your car.

The fitment appears to be very nice.

@sport

This thread is getting good.

lookinco

Makes me want to order mine. I really want to know how the front lip would match up with the Apec side and rear though.

ACCURATEin

The versus sideskirts are the same design as the aspec except for its one piece instead of two.

The picture of the entire car should give you a pretty good idea the front bumper lines up with the sideskirts...to me it lines up fairly even.

cM3go

Seems a lot of work for the rear skirt and front bumper. I thought it would be closer to OEM fitment. Glad I didn't have to modify anything to put my RonJon kit on.

Kit looks decent, can't wait to see it painted.

XjoEnX

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that kit looks like it'll eat me alive! haha but i also think it looks pretty damn hot. i can't wait to see the final result.

lookinco

i think it will look great after you slam it!

brigsaz

no slamming for me. I like how the aspec suspension rides.

ACCURATEin

Costco

form and function.... that kit is really nice I really like that front bumper.

cant wait until its painted!

brigsaz

I'm hoping to have it back on Monday... Tuesday at the latest.

ACCURATEin

Anxious much?!

me too.

holybear

same here, lol.