Strath

Hey guys I had a real quick question. Kinds complex but simple. I've been waiting to find a tl-s j35a8 and 6mt to swap into my Accord, and I found a good deal on a tl base 6mt and j32a3. Is there a difference between the type s transmission and the base transmission? Both 6mt lsd of course. I've heard the type s can hold more power but am recently hearing otherwise. Also, what would need to be done to get the j32a3 basically "converted" to a j35a8?

TacoBello

You can't just convert a J32 to a j35. You need to bore out the cylinder walls to go from a 3.2L to a 3.5L. Simply put, it would be cost prohibitive once you do all the machining and engine reassembly and buy all the other stuff like intake manifold, etc. actually, the differences are even more than just that. You'll need the head also, etc. It's just a bad idea. And for the 30hp you're gaining, it's just not worth the money.

As far as transmission- who cares? Why do you want the type s version over the base version? The base version is plenty strong. I'm not sure what the differences are, but if you're doing it simply to say "I have a type s", it's not worth it.

justnspace

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<p>different bell housing for type-s transmission, which also could mean slight changes with the internals of the type-s trans than the base.&nbsp;</p>

TacoBello

Oh yes, this is true also.

Either way...

Strath

Yeah I wanted to know of it can hold more power. I don't want to get my build finished just to need a new tranny (gonna be turbo). So you think it's more cost effective to just buy the j35?

justnspace

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<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>if the ultimate goal is to turbo, we've found that the bottom end of the J35 likes to blow.&nbsp;<br />most likely from poor exhaust evacuation/back pressure.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>so, your turbo fabricator has to be on point with exhaust pressures while he's fabricating down pipes and such.&nbsp;</p><p>or you could build the bottom end of the J35.....</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Honestly, man...there's SOOO many options and tricks and tips that you really need the knowledge for. read up on some of our turbo threads!&nbsp;</p>

TacoBello

Guys have had better luck boosting the j32 in the long run. It might be worth sticking with that.

Plus, a j32 is a dime a dozen.

TacoBello

Even so, didn't they still continue to blow up?

justnspace

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<p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I dont know, i stopped reading that&nbsp;thread. <img alt="" src="https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tomato.gif" title="Tomato" />&nbsp;</p>

Strath

Anyone have any links to these threads? And how much would it cost to get the cylinders bored out to a 3.6l?

justnspace

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I'll provide you links, but you cant complain like the other noobs, deal?

justnspace

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https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-s-6mt-936111/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...thread-910371/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-build-841336/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...stions-847300/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-chime-902672/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...bility-913726/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...rmance-849924/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...utches-906678/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-build-809481/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-heads-932220/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...ge-4-a-887133/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...type-s-921851/

there are tons more. it will be YOUR job to read each thread in depth, so that you will become more knowledgeable in choosing which engine to go with. Remember, no complaining and get to it!

justnspace

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https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...od-j35-931940/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-build-931608/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-setup-931681/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-drive-910949/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-turbo-931412/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform.../turbo-931323/

https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...-heads-931278/

justnspace

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https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...n-tl-s-930648/

justnspace

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Robert Turbo'd his J30. Here is his thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...series-873314/

Strath

Read thru all those threads. I was originally interested in j32a2 heads but the dual vtec sounds fun. Does anyone know if the j32a2's are still the best option for boost? That's what I've heard. Also; one of those threads said flashpro was crap for j's. What's a good tune setup for a 500+hp j?

truonghthe

If you wanted a 500 WHP beast then the TL is not a right platform, crab boy will shed light into this. TL platform is good around 300-350 whp IMO.

Strath

By platform do you mean the car itself?

maharajamd

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<p>^Yes.</p>

TacoBello

500hp to the front wheels is good for a lot of tire spinning. At that power level, you should really be looking at AWD or RWD.

polobunny

You forgot Gerzand 634whp Rotrex Acura TL though, anybody can do it right?!

Strath

Friend of mine is going to help me get some custom gearing for the 6mt. With the lsd and taller gears I think it should be fine with 500hp, from second gear at least.

polobunny

Then look for Gerzand rotrex build, because it's stupidly dumb how much power comes out of that J35.

justnspace

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3.80 final drive?

TacoBello

Gerzand isn't your run of the mill car guy, though. What he did/has took a shit ton of time and effort and money.

polobunny

I'm aware, but I don't mind watching other people trying and failing.


The TL is a terrible platform anyway. It's not that it can't be done, it's that it doesn't make sense to do it.

maharajamd

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<p>^Exactly. Love his build, kudos, the man's a genius.&nbsp;But that much power on this platform doesn't make much sense to me.&nbsp;</p><p>At that point it's more of a &quot;I can and will do this&quot; not really a &quot;should I&quot;.</p>

justnspace

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I can only imagine the amount of money he's spent.

for the little guys, like me, there are far way more important things than having a 600hp TL

polobunny

You've been trying to burn things with a laser for a good part of the day, we figured.

truonghthe

Being FWD with 500-600 WHP you will get alot of tire spin. I would rather have a 2JZGE with 500 WHP than a J35A8.

Strath

I'm still trying to figure out if the type s tranny can hold more power than the 3.2 tranny. What benefit does the j35a8 have over the j32a3 if both will be built & boosted? I read that the j35 has better cooling or something. Will be going with j32a2 heads.

Hi speed

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Your best bet is to buy the upgraded 4-5 gear set if you can from Mfactory and put them in the j32 tranny. The TL is a wonderful platform for big power and FI as long as your 6 speed.

TacoBello

Guys have boosted both the j32 and j35 attached to the factory 6MT without issue. Although, very few have crossed the 450hp mark. You're going into unmarked territory for the most part. It's been done by a few members, but they had no blue print to go off of and spent a lot of money, time and effort, and planned like crazy.

I think you might be biting off more than you can chew with your goal of 500+ hp. I don't mean to be an ass by any means, but if you're wondering about some of this simpler stuff, I think you might have a difficult and costly road ahead of you. You sure you don't want to consider a different, more suitable, more tried and tested platform, as opposed to forging ahead with this one?

Either way, if you do stick with this, I wish you the best of luck!!

Strath

Why would upgrading 4-5 help? I'd assume 1-3 would take a lot more shock...

justnspace

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read the turbo thread!! lol
lilbert shattered 4-5!

Cbenne38

Dont bore it to 3.5 stroke it. RL pistons and heads. Winning. Works with J32A2 stock cam.

Strath

Was going to go with j32a2 heads.