RM44341

An article in todays Boston Globe said that Toyota Prius buyers are waiting 8 months for delivery because Toyota way underestimated demand.

bdowell

Sorry, won't see me waiting on a Prius

Although thanks to the Prius for inspiring the Blueooth handsfree link

AcidHorse

They're just doing that so everyone will pay sticker or more for it.

RM44341

Even though the Prius isn't my cup of tea I believe they certainly hit a home run in that segment. I hope the technology catches on too because given the time I hang on to cars (around 10 years) maybe they'll have performance hybrids by then. Imagine a TL that also gets phenomonal gas mileage.

caball88

prius??? people are really lining up for that? no thanks..it must be all those tree huggers out there. i like the idea of a hybrid as long as it meets my performance requirements. but aside from being sluggish, i think its down right ugly.

elessar

I'm curious to test drive it, but I doubt I'd want to buy one... not after being used to the TL's 270hp. But it's a good idea, and it will hopefully inspire a new generation of much more efficient cars. I heard awhile back (I believe on this forum) that Honda was planning a 240hp hybrid V6 Accord for this fall, that will get over 30mpg. Anybody else hear any news about this?

caball88

only 30mpg for a hybrid v6?? that is not much better than the regular v6. i would pass if this is the case.

vtechbrain

Thats AVG 30, is pretty darn good for a 240 HP car. Thats more than twice the Prius power. The prius may be a technological wonder but its as porky as a car can get, IMO its so slow its almost a hazard to itself.

garylee55

Let me here you say that when gas is $3 a gallon.

caball88

still no thanks i would get the civiv hybrid instead. they made that car look normal. i do not doubt that the prius is great inovation wise. but to me its so ugly. besides the civic gets close to 50mpg.

daviddww

I will be waiting at least 8 months for the hybrid Toyota Highlander that comes out in Jan. 45 MPG and 270 HP out of a 7 passenger AWD SUV...now were talking! I will be glad to say goodbye to my '95 Rodeo for one of those

caball88

are they selling that highlander already??? i do not see it on the site. but if an SUV did have that kind of numbers i would consider that much more than the prius.

Mindcrime

Toyota is in the lead on this technology. They are coming out with a hybrid Highlander next year that get 30+ MPG and is .2 sec faster then the current gas model. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

They are going to put the technology into the Lexus RS 330 and serveral other cars. In the mean time GM and Ford are still putting out piece of crap Exploders that get 16 mpg and fall apart. Way to go Detroit.

supdawg

I think I heard it too, but I thought I heard that it would be AWD, and the hybrid power would be the back wheel power. I would happily buy a car over 225 HP that got over 50 mpg.

elessar

It's on the Toyota website, but you have to go to the "future vehicles" page. I also found a couple of other links with info on it. According to Edmunds, though, fuel economy is closer to 28mpg than 45. Still, not too shabby for an AWD SUV with as much horsepower as the TL! :wow: Too bad it's still about as stylish on the outside as a washing machine... :p

elessar

Update on the Accord Hybrid - found a bit more info:

http://www.autointell-news.com/News-...n-21-04-p9.htm

Doesn't exactly say what the MPG will be (other than "the same as a 4-cylinder car"), but it's going to use Variable Cylinder Management, so the car will only use 3 of the 6 cylinders when cruising. Also, Honda's working on a hydrogen fuel cell, which is supposed to be in a production car next year. All good signs!

DMZ

As I said in a previous post, bet on a TL-Hybrid by mid '05 or '06.