Great list! While Honda/Acura is ranked at the top, I don't view this list as completely accurate. However, it closely aligns with what I often hear, read, and experience from actual owners rather than online commenters.

 

Congratulations to Honda/Acura which is coming back up to near the top of the list.

 

How long until ELIN gives his anecdotal RDX experience to contradict a decent reliability rating 🤔 🤣 🤣. He was driving and left wheel fell off and Acura corporate did nothing to help 🤣. Meanwhile his x3 engine fell out and BMW repaired it within 1 hour free of charge.

 

I would love to write more about this topic but I will leave it to this: BMW is the best brand in the entire world. It flies when it’s needed. It changes its oil and when it’s time to change the brake pads, it’s gets done OTA 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Finally, I heard, the new X3 will go to space free of charge!

 

The relatively low traffic in the TLX problems and fixes area since I joined the forum, with issues primarily confined to first-world problems like puddle lights and infotainment glitches, speaks volumes too. Consumer Reports, never a big fan of the TLX, even put it on the cover of their magazine back in 2022 or so, admitting it's been a very reliable vehicle in its 2nd generation from the git-go.

 

These are older cars, so the data can't be compared to current models, but when people ask why we own two Acuras currently, one of the things I tell them is that I've owned my last two personal cars for a combined 32 years -- a 92 Legend Coupe and my current '10 TL AWD. On the Legend, over 18 years I replaced a wheel sensor and a cat converter - everything else was routine maintenance -- tires, belts, etc. Still on the original clutch and exhaust system when I sold it to a fellow Legend enthusiast in 2010. On my current TL, (I hate to jinx myself), I've paid to have the cupholder cover replaced. Acura covered the piston/ring replacement under the extended warranty. Everything else, routine maintenance -- tires, belts, water pump with timing belt change. We've also owned two 90s era Integras that needed nothing, along with our current '23 ASpec Tech, which has been a real champ for us so far. So a car company would need to make a very compelling argument why I should consider something else, at least based on quality/reliability criteria. It doesn't hurt that we have an excellent dealer that we've been dealing with since the early 90s.

 

Mini in #3 makes me suspicious of the whole list.

 

I was thinking the same. CR uses a fairly robust dataset, but Mini in the #3 spot seems like an error.

 

yeah, 3.0 transfer cases going out, rotor warps, rdx rear glass shattering on its own and cherry on top the 3.5 engines crapping themselves for which acura took responsibiliity after a decade are first world problems, and these are only of the top of my head lmfao

 

Years ago and to the chagrin of many, I indicated that my old 19 3.5 PAWS was 100% trouble free during the three years I had it. Adding fuel to the fire, my early production 21 A-Spec FWD (which I still have) has also been trouble free since day one....and it's been running a Phearable stage 3 tune for nearly 3 years. The brand may not be for everyone but it's been solid for me. So, the rating doesnt come as a surprise.

 

Welp. Some other brand owners are quite convinced either.

 

Let me explain you this forum in a one or two sentences:

If Honda/Acura are at the bottom, the keyboard worriers will post, comment and want to proof you that it's true! If Honda/Acura are at the top, all of a sudden they are "busy" and you don't see any comments or they will say the data is wrong Legit it's the story of Acurazine! The best is to ignore and filter those comments.

 

Wait, so suddenly Consumer Reports is no longer BS?

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Talk about confirmation bias...

 

OK, touche, but I wasn't talking about the RDX. Integra's problems/fixes area seems pretty quiet, too. I don't look at the RDX forum; as I have zero interest in SUV's.

 

 

*inserts big grill meme*

hehe Acura king bmw sucks look at them grills, who cares they have better technology, MPG, more power… those grills hehehehehajaha

 

It’s a joke… I’m not even serious lol

 

So when are you getting your BMW?

 

I need someone from NJ/NY come here and snatch that shit so I can use GAP hehe

 

Good no answer.

 

would be taking too much of a loss if I sold/traded it in now

 

Deop it off on Park Ave. in Paterson. You're welcome. Them Dominicans gone take care of it.

 

.....they may come to you.

 

So uh, is it time to shit on Consumer Reports again?

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...s-a6759602787/

Acura finished 23th out of 34 brands on their road test score. And before someone says "well they're biased against Honda/Acura", Honda finished 9th, ahead of Lexus, Mercedes, and Toyota.

And before someone blames the Intergra, the TLX was the one that dragged the group down. RDX scored 80, Integra 79, MDX 74, and the TLX a 66.

 

#11 Overall
low score in 1 metric

 

Considering Acura is supposed to be about "performance", it seems like doing poorly on the road test is a bit of a problem, no? Otherwise, Lexus is better in all other metrics.

 

CR states "Ultimately, the road-test score is combined with reliability and owner satisfaction survey results, along with scores for safety features and crashworthiness, to create an Overall Score—a succinct way to tell a vehicle’s story." They conduct their owner satisfaction survey amongst their own subscribers/members if I am not mistaken. Acura has very solid reliability, safety tech, and crashworthiness ratings pretty much everywhere one looks - so it's likely that the CR owner satisfaction survey is what is dragging down the overall score of the brand. Factor in that CR's subscribers are a demographic that thinks touchpads are tools of Satan, and you wind up with some pretty large grains of salt with which to take this ranking. I'm with Tony Pac - these are owners who view their vehicles through the same lens as their refrigerators.

 

Which one is it? Everyones bitches that Performance is 0-60, or is it something else now?

 

It's only taken 2 months to respond but better late than never, as they say...

I've now owned my X3 just a bit longer than I had the TLX and the worst criticism I have for the BMW is that the sound system is trash (seriously, if you're an audiophile, stay away from BMW)! When I was looking for a TLX replacement, I needed a compact SUV (by US standards) that only had to match the A-Spec's trash fuel economy. Not only do I get 2-3 mpg better than the TLX I owned, I'm always impressed by the passing power of my little inline 4 cylinder that has me asking myself sometimes, AITA? I've toyed w/the idea of getting an X3 M40i coming off a lease so that I can experience the famed B58 engine and giving my current car to one of the kids. I really hate the look of the new G45 so used is the only option for me if I move forward w/my plan!

As this is a reliability thread, I'll just say that I haven't had any issues in the 2+ years I've had the X3. Anyone who keeps chanting the old adage that "BMWs are unreliable"...they really haven't kept up w/the times now, eh?

Can't say I'm surprised by Acura's ranking on CR's list for road test scores. If SHAWD was really all that, the TLX would have survived and consumers wouldn't be scared away by the fuel econ penalty! Instead, Acura is relying on the CVT (further bringing down road test scores) in the Integra and ADX as gateway products to a lineup that is largely free of CVT!

I see everyone is doing well so stay safe this holiday season!

 

For one reason or another, I think a sizeable portion of this rhetoric has tampered down in recent years. Moving from the N series to the B series went a long way towards bettering reliablity....especially going from the N20 to the B48.

 

Latest ranking from CR. Discuss!

 

Thanks for sharing. Honestly, all these rating are a big question mark. I know one thing, Toyota, Lexus, Honda and Acura are the top call me biased, not knowledgeable and whatever. I had Mazdas as well and very happy but still I noticed it cannot be Honda or Toyota. These could be a reference point but I will never buy a car based on CR rating or JD Power! Over 30 years of Honda/Acura in my family and we have never spent a dollar on our cars except regular maintenance and yet my cousin's BMW and MB have been nothing but problems.

Honda/Acura engines are built to last!

 

Remember - The typical CR member (from whom the above data is gathered annually) tends to be older, with a higher income, and is likely to be more concerned about quality and reliability when making purchasing decisions; their average print subscriber being around 65 years old, and the average digital subscriber slightly younger at 56 years old. When I was in high school my Dad became a member and he was in his late 50's - and used CR to make just about any purchasing decision our family made from hedge trimmers to cars. His main reason for trusting them, especially regarding cars, was the fact that they don't get, or rely on, advertising revenue from any automaker. Plus, they are called "Consumer Reports" not "Driving Enthusiast Reports". Their reviewers do give lip service to driving excitement - they have an absolutely state of the art test track, too - but obsess over UI issues and play along with the vast majority of their membership that considers UI tools such as track pads to be a secret plot by the Borg to assimilate (or just eliminate) us all. CR, JD Power, Edmunds, and any other reliability/quality rating scale one cares to consider; they all need to be factored together to make a buying or leasing decision.

 

Subaru on top is a joke lol

 

Sounds like a great automotive journalist company we should start!

 

Over the decades Honda/Acura have had mostly high rankings in CR with their long term dependability/reliability. Few bumps occasionally, but this reflects typical Honda/Acura quality.