Quote from johnboy99:

I just found out that all seat in the New Acura TL are going to be recalled due to the material of the leather and how they heated them up for creating the seat. The seat will in a quick time start sheading and you will see small particals of hair from the seats coming up, fade to wrinkle to rip. The worst seats to have right now is the Black leather because its most noticable. White marks appear very noticable.

 

I noticed White hairs coming out from the side of od the door panel. I have an ebony interior, its right below the aluminum and carbon fiber trimming, its the same material as the seats are. I also noticed this in the front seats as well, which get used the most. White hairs come out those little wholes. I hope they change it all, i want this crap fixed. I knew something couldnt be right with those hairs coming out. Even if they are not out, if you look in the holes you can see the white color of hairs, this is msot notcieable on the door - the part that has the same material as the seats. Looks like bad news for a lot of us, but at least they are going to fx it.

 

So, do you think this could ignite fire when you use the seat heater?

 

I hope this is not true, that their is no recall, however, if people are having problems then I do hope their is a recall as long as the new leather seats do not make the TL's interior look like shit, with the introduction of new leather etc!!!

 

I dont know. To my eye, the hair does look like a flammable material. I actually saw a post here where some guys seat melted in a spot. Maybe it was cuased by these hairs lighting up? I will take some out of the side and the seats and test it. But to my eye, it looks like the kind of stuff that will burn up really fast and then the fire will jsut die out, much like human hair. It will burn real fast and disintegrate. My TL only has 1k miles on it, i bought it on June 19th, and the most noticeable place for these hairs to come out is on the side of the door. It looks really bad abd makes the car seem as if it is falling apart, making it look old with that yellowish white color hair you can see through those holes.

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Spell check? We are going to get the reputation of being uneducated in this forum with some of the spelling and grammar. From above, it's "seats," "particles," "shedding," "noticeable" and the "worst seats to have ARE the Black leather." A couple of quick reminders:

"a lot" is two words. There is no such word as "alot."
"lose" means to misplace something. "loose" should be used to describe the girl next door.
The ONLY time to use "it's" (with the apostrophe) is when you want to say "it is." When you are saying something like "The Acura is great because of its interior," there is no apostrophe.
"whole" means the entire thing. "hole" might be used for the girl next door again.
Do we have to review the whole "there" "their" "they're" thing again? "Their" is possessive, "they're" means "they are" and "there" is used for all other purposes.
You can't separate sentences with commas. Use a period (.) or a semicolon (

Sorry to nit pick. It just seems as if there are an awful lot of posts from the 25 and under crowd who (presumably) are fresh out of high school or college, but cannot form a complete sentence. After all, this is a classy car.

Thanks for letting me rant.

 

FYI: I didn't write this. "johnboy99" did. You may want to PM him instead of complaining about grammatic errors here.

 

You're absolutely right; my apologies for giving the wrong impression. But it's still part of the forum, dammit! Sorry. Rough morning.

 

No problem.

 

well this better not be true. I have the black interior and haven't noticed anything unusual, but I'll be taking a closer look tonite. What a PITA if the seats all have to be replaced.

 

i haven't noticed the hairs but there are times my seats feel like they have the warmers on. i always look down to see if i accidentally turn them on but they're off. i don't wanna leave my car at the dealer again unless it's an actual recall. they tend to keep my car way too long. so can someone verify this

 

Is this serious? Are there any TSBs on this (they frequently precede recalls). Good Lord, this would be a nightmare.


To dwcolt;

You're lucky. I once got the sh-- flamed out of me for pointing this out in my early membership on Altimas.net. But you're right. Impressions are formed by numerous things and when the parties involved cannot see one another, the written word is the primary vehicle for this feat.

People, I'd be willing to bet that dwcolt is not flaming you.. he's just offering some good advice. Imagine yourself writing a cover letter for a resume, then think of this as practice. the English language is the richest language on earth. Take advantage of it and learn its use. Trust me.. those who know how to write well are perceived on a higher plane than those who have not mastered this skill.

 

Oh, by the way. The use of the pronoun, "he" in my posting (he's just offering) is proper Englsh grammar. When the sex of the subject is not know, you always defer to the masculine gender.

And furthermore, the word "gender" is NOT a proper word for discerning the sex of an individual. You use "sex" for that. Gender describes a pronoun class. In recent years, some dictionaries have succumbed to the nonsense of Political Correctness and included gender as a desciption of human sex, but this is NOT classical English. Just like "decisions". You can't "make" a decision, but you sure can "take" one.

 

Just spoke with my dealer 1st Acura in Ma , he said he knew nothing about any recall, but will call
corporate to find out any info.

 

I agree with dwcolt about the louzy spelling, and improperableness use of words on this site.

That's why I always use a spal-chekea.

alan

 

Of course if we are going to all be perfect then "Dammit" is spelled wrong by DW and Southern missed a couple of other errors in his first post. Not that I care, but you guys are pointing this stuff out. It seems to me that internet forums don't make a lot of difference for this kind of thing.

 

Here is my experience. I picked up my TL at the beginning of April and now have about 6k miles on it. About a month ago, I noticed these "hairs" coming out of the holes in the front seats. By the way, I have the best looking interior (Camel) :-)

When I had my oil changed last week, I asked about the hairs. My service writer told me that that is the result of the punching process used to punch the holes in the leather. He said that it does not fall under the warranty and that they "all do that, to some degree".

He also told me that what they do to fix it is to pass a heat gun across the seats and "burn" them off. A hair dryer is not hot enough. He also said that sometimes they use a small propane tourch to singe them off.

I was kinda surprised at all of this because, in truth, I just thought the hairs were part of the Camel that they used to make my seats.

So, since they aren't that noticable, I'm gonna leave them there.

Regards........

 

i have sceen a bunch of scratched seets in the 04 TL. I have been going around to difernt dealers and I noticed that a lot of scrathes from it looks like pants. Is this lather realy easy to scuff up? I did saw that other post with the burn seat too. Awaiting the 05 to buy mine.. for a discount on 04.. wost comes to worst, I'll put down some newspapers so I wont ruine the seats

-- what's spell chexing?

 

"The hairs were part of the Camel that they used to make my seats"?! Did I read this correctly? If so, that is FUNNY!!!!!

I think 'camel' is the name of the colour that Acura used; I do not believe that the origin of the seats come from a camel.

Carry on...

 

If there is a recall, I hope this isn't the fix. I'll live with the little hairs before I let someone come at my seats with a propane tourch... or heat gun for that matter.

EDIT: Spell check!

 

Are we talking about a recall or about grammar? I can't really decide what direction to head in.

 

To Osteroman;

My biggest fault when typing on this forums is typos. I am constantly leaving the "r" off of your or mispelling a word or such and it is almost always due to typos.

I generally look past someone's grammar on a forum simply because I don't feel like getting into an argument over it. But I have to admit the man was right in his post. Just like, "you are what you eat", one could argue that "you are how you write".

Like I said, I got flamed for pointing out this on another site and I did it quite diplomatically. Some people really take offense when their shortcomings are displayed.

Oh well. In the scheme of things it really doesn't matter all that much. Heck, when I first started writing on this site, I had yet to purchase my TL. I was asking some questions and made some comparisons between my Altima SE and the TL. And I mentioned I had also considered the new Ford Focus ZX4 ST. Well you would have thought I crapped on some peoples' Thanksgiving turkey. Some were quite arrogant and aloof and took exception to my suggestion I would consider a Ford over an Acura. Needless to say, it left a rather sour taste in my mouth and a poor first impression of some of the members here.

So we all could stand to be a little more thoughtful and considerate of each other, eh?

 

http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89103
well check my thread, what caused that? I dont know
and now i haven't taken it to dealer yet cuz its in body shop.

 

Hook, line and sinker...

 

Hairs in the perforated sections of the seats have effected the CL, Gen II TL, and MDX from the day they were introduced. And no, it's not normal and isn't common to all perforated leather.

 

This has to be one of the funniest threads I have read in a while! Perhaps we need Sister Mary Relentless as moderator with wooden ruler in-hand, waiting for grammatical errors to surface.

 

Southernboy you are right. However in this case we must understand that there are some major "maroons" out there. How are we to know if what we see is in fact a typo, or a post by a dumbo? Spelling and grammer are but one way (on a forum perhaps the only way) to know if we are "speaking" with a "typoist" or a "dummiest".

Beacuse there is no spell checker on this site, I look over my posts at least twice before hitting the submit button, and even then (sometimes), when it gets to the board, I see something I want to change or an error I missed. If that happens, I just go in and fix it.

My feelings are, if you're going to do something, try to do it right.

Alan

 

Man, that's bad.. as in really bad. The "melting" of AcuraTLjatt559's seats is what I mean. I didn't think leather would melt and still maintain the same color. That's not good at all.

 

To arkk;

Yeah, I suppose I should also look over my submittals more carefully before being submitted, too. Did you see that guy's leather seat? What the heck could have caused that?

 

Hairs in the seats, indeed. What a joke!

 

Sounds like some people got the optional "Chia Seats"

 

Do they tickle? Because that could be fun.

 

I agree Southerboy. I'm a physician and still can't type worth anything. I guess my point is, does it really matter? We all make typos, we all spell things incorrectly at times. I've just gotten use to looking past the writing and looking at the content. If these people were writing a book, I would care, here I don't. However, in the end we are all smart because we chose this fine car. Of course mine still rattles like crazy but I still love it. That melting scares me though. I also do have the hairs on one side in my back seats but not anywhere else. I also feel like the quality of this leather is not great for this expensive of a car. Not what I would expect. I think my 2000 Accord EX had better leather IMO. Sorry for the rambling but since it wasn't a book I didn't care.

 

This is so funny. It's rare to read any posting on the internet that doesn't have grammatical errors. People in general, especially young people, aren't very good spellers. I do think that people tend to post replys or write comments very quickly and don't bother to check their spelling or grammer.

Do you go to various websites and complain about the poor spelling?

By the way, your mother is loose and hole describes your sister. I don't want you to feel too cocky or get too pompous.

greg

 

this thread has been for long time

and can we plz get back to topic?

 

The only thing missing from all this vapor-type, accusation, and innuendo is ----- the great johnboy99, who made his assertion, waved goodbye, and promptly left the building.

 

That's not genuine camel? I want my money back!

 

OUCH! Nice one. Ok fine, this is probably petty, but I'm not looking for Ph.D quality English. Perhaps I have become a jaded soul by thinking that some level of grammar and occasional proper spelling should still be important. The initial post opening this thread just caught my eye as a result of the sheer number of errors in only a few lines. I agree that everyone in the forum has already demonstrated their intelligence by purchasing the TL.

 

Sorry folks, I agree with dwcolt. It shouldn't matter if you are writing a book, or a letter to your moron brother back on the farm in Kansas. Correct spelling and the proper use of grammar should be used at all times. Of course if in fact you are writing to your moron brother.......he won't know the difference.

Yes a typo can happen to anyone, but some of us think it's proper to look our work over before sending it out into cyberspace to land on this or that fourm.

I (not that's it's a big deal) have written some stuff that has been published. Do you think it would have been, if the writing was filled with mis-spelled words and the improper use of the language?

It's not a hardship (or a shame) to keep a dictionary next to the computer and check a word if you are not sure of the correct spelling.

If you put crap out, you'll probably get crap back. You know as in computer talk; garbage in garbarge out.

Alan

 

Amen brother! Now let us all forget this silly discourse and relish the exalting beauty that is the TL.