HID headlamps are over-rated
03-04-2004, 07:59 PM
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Please take a look at my reply towards you on the XM Quality Sucks Thread, then take your chevy and LEAVE poser! I'll give you a jump start and a quart of oil if you need it
03-04-2004, 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by bdowell
Please take a look at my reply towards you on the XM Quality Sucks Thread, then take your chevy and LEAVE poser! I'll give you a jump start and a quart of oil if you need it
Please take a look at my reply towards you on the XM Quality Sucks Thread, then take your chevy and LEAVE poser! I'll give you a jump start and a quart of oil if you need it
I've posted the 1st post from that thread below.
I've had the Z28 since September of 1998 and it now has 73K miles on it. Never once has it needed a jump start or consumed a quart of oil...And it has DESTROYED countless "high tech " cars...both on the straights and in the twisties...
It was EPA rated @ 19 city/28 highway and produced ~ 300 drive wheel HP BONE STOCK...Please name any production Acura or Honda automobile that can match that HP per MPG ratio.
Originally posted by BLACK VELVET
Is it just me or does XM sound quality suck? I was really excited about getting XM in my new 04 TL, and I was very disapointed when I have been listening. It sounds about as good as cassete tape that has been copied from a copy of the original tape....that was a copy of a copy!
I mean honestly....it sucks. I love all the channels, and no commercials.......but it sound like somebody put a pillow over my speakers when I listen to XM! It is like having a girlfriend that has a 10 for a body.....but a 2 for her face!! Sheeeiiit!!!
What the hell is wrong with XM? This is 2004.....they are shooting down music from outerspace.....and they can't even make it sound as good as a CD! I just don't understand what the deal is, XM is a big let down in sound quality!
What does everybody else think?
Peeze out
Is it just me or does XM sound quality suck? I was really excited about getting XM in my new 04 TL, and I was very disapointed when I have been listening. It sounds about as good as cassete tape that has been copied from a copy of the original tape....that was a copy of a copy!
I mean honestly....it sucks. I love all the channels, and no commercials.......but it sound like somebody put a pillow over my speakers when I listen to XM! It is like having a girlfriend that has a 10 for a body.....but a 2 for her face!! Sheeeiiit!!!
What the hell is wrong with XM? This is 2004.....they are shooting down music from outerspace.....and they can't even make it sound as good as a CD! I just don't understand what the deal is, XM is a big let down in sound quality!
What does everybody else think?
Peeze out
03-04-2004, 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
The "XM QUALITY SUCKS" thread isn't MY thread...
I've posted the 1st post from that thread below.
I've had the Z28 since September of 1998 and it now has 73K miles on it. Never once has it needed a jump start or consumed a quart of oil...
It was EPA rated @ 19 city/28 highway and produced ~ 300 drive wheel HP BONE STOCK...Please name any production Acura or Honda automobile that can match that HP per MPG ratio.
The "XM QUALITY SUCKS" thread isn't MY thread...
I've posted the 1st post from that thread below.
I've had the Z28 since September of 1998 and it now has 73K miles on it. Never once has it needed a jump start or consumed a quart of oil...
It was EPA rated @ 19 city/28 highway and produced ~ 300 drive wheel HP BONE STOCK...Please name any production Acura or Honda automobile that can match that HP per MPG ratio.
03-04-2004, 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by adam209
who cares you freak!? just shutup about your stupid camaro
who cares you freak!? just shutup about your stupid camaro
Originally posted by bdowell
Please take a look at my reply towards you on the XM Quality Sucks Thread, then take your chevy and LEAVE poser! I'll give you a jump start and a quart of oil if you need it
Please take a look at my reply towards you on the XM Quality Sucks Thread, then take your chevy and LEAVE poser! I'll give you a jump start and a quart of oil if you need it
03-04-2004, 08:24 PM
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Actually, I'm still ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING about your claim that "stock" 1969 396 Chevelles produced "335 RWHP."
Imagine that. The 396 Chevelles made nearly TWICE the RWHP of their similarly powered/rated GM A-body GTO/442 cousins, yet the Chevelles weren't ANY faster....
You were actually under the impression that those old HP ratings (pre 1972 SAE GROSS) were REAL!
So you took the "375 rating," subtracted the "accepted" 40 HP (for driveline loss") and came up with 335 HP.
Now I'm sure that you can find some joker who is running in an amature "stock" drag class in 2004 who CLAIMS that his "stock' 396 produces that kind of power...Thing is, that ain't stock.
03-04-2004, 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Norse396
Good grief, what planet are you from?? Not only do I think they did, I know they did.
So who friggin cares??? Mid 13's for a stock 375HP Chevelle was pretty good, it's now 2004, I think people have gotten over it, why can't you?
Uh, no, I was using the same rating they used, which would be an apples to apples comparison for that year, which was 1969, not 1972 or even 2004.
No, I didn't, you just did, I used numbers provided by many magazines who were guilty (as if they could use something else??) of using the same ratings of the time. Hind site affords us the ability to use NET ratings since 1972, during the years the cars were new these ratings didn't exist.
I don't think you would know stock if it reached out and biatch slapped you up side the head. I don't need to find anybody, it's you arguing this crap in an Acura forum....:argue: I'm just the idiot who says he is done with the thread and then answers you, so I guess we're both idiotic...
Good grief, what planet are you from?? Not only do I think they did, I know they did.
So who friggin cares??? Mid 13's for a stock 375HP Chevelle was pretty good, it's now 2004, I think people have gotten over it, why can't you?
Uh, no, I was using the same rating they used, which would be an apples to apples comparison for that year, which was 1969, not 1972 or even 2004.
No, I didn't, you just did, I used numbers provided by many magazines who were guilty (as if they could use something else??) of using the same ratings of the time. Hind site affords us the ability to use NET ratings since 1972, during the years the cars were new these ratings didn't exist.
I don't think you would know stock if it reached out and biatch slapped you up side the head. I don't need to find anybody, it's you arguing this crap in an Acura forum....:argue: I'm just the idiot who says he is done with the thread and then answers you, so I guess we're both idiotic...
They were low 14 sec cars as they drove off the showroom floor.
335 rear wheel HP in a ~ 3700 pounds car would trap SIGNIFICANTLY higher than 100 MPH.
http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...-history.shtml
"Performance: L78 396/375: 0-60 in 6.5 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.5 sec @ 100mph."
MODIFIED examples (both then and now) ran faster than that.
03-04-2004, 08:44 PM
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I can see you're the type who would argue the color of the sky. I'll end my part in this with this.
Take this argument to a place for gear head talk, this thread is about head-lights. This forum is about Acura cars which you keep twisting into debates about nonsense that has nothing to do with anything but what your over wieght Geo Metro can do.
Nobody cares, I could post stats proving what I think is fact, you wouldn't believe them unless they prove you right, people like you are the types not worth talking to because you can't be talked too.
TLover,
You're correct, I'm done with this thread.
Take this argument to a place for gear head talk, this thread is about head-lights. This forum is about Acura cars which you keep twisting into debates about nonsense that has nothing to do with anything but what your over wieght Geo Metro can do.
Nobody cares, I could post stats proving what I think is fact, you wouldn't believe them unless they prove you right, people like you are the types not worth talking to because you can't be talked too.
TLover,
You're correct, I'm done with this thread.
03-04-2004, 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Norse396
I can see you're the type who would argue the color of the sky. I'll end my part in this with this.
Take this argument to a place for gear head talk, this thread is about head-lights. This forum is about Acura cars which you keep twisting into debates about nonsense that has nothing to do with anything but what your over wieght Geo Metro can do.
Nobody cares, I could post stats proving what I think is fact, you wouldn't believe them unless they prove you right, people like you are the types not worth talking to because you can't be talked too.
TLover,
You're correct, I'm done with this thread.
I can see you're the type who would argue the color of the sky. I'll end my part in this with this.
Take this argument to a place for gear head talk, this thread is about head-lights. This forum is about Acura cars which you keep twisting into debates about nonsense that has nothing to do with anything but what your over wieght Geo Metro can do.
Nobody cares, I could post stats proving what I think is fact, you wouldn't believe them unless they prove you right, people like you are the types not worth talking to because you can't be talked too.
TLover,
You're correct, I'm done with this thread.
http://www.chevelle454ls6.com/NationalRecordlg.htm
http://www.chevelle454ls6.com/1970_chevelle_454_ls6.htm
And look, this stone stock 1LE/LS1 'bird is FASTER than that RECORD HOLDING "450 HP" LS6!
http://popularmechanics.com/automoti.../index11.phtml
03-04-2004, 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by TLover
And all this back and forth has what to do with HIDs vs. halogen?
And all this back and forth has what to do with HIDs vs. halogen?
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How is it that a "375 HP" 396 Chevelle was quicker than this (vintage) 1970 AHRA RECORD HOLDING "450 HP" LS6 454 Chevelle - a "legendary" musclecar?
http://www.chevelle454ls6.com/NationalRecordlg.htm
http://www.chevelle454ls6.com/1970_chevelle_454_ls6.htm
http://www.chevelle454ls6.com/B&Wlarge.htm
And look, this stone stock 1LE/LS1 'bird is FASTER than that RECORD HOLDING "450 HP" LS6!
http://popularmechanics.com/automot...s/index11.phtml
03-04-2004, 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by TLud
could someone direct me to the acura tl forum? i thought this was it, but apparently it's the mullet hotrodders anonymous forum.
could someone direct me to the acura tl forum? i thought this was it, but apparently it's the mullet hotrodders anonymous forum.
A STOCK 1969 "375 HP" (SAE GROSS) 396 would be hard pressed to keep pace with a stock TL/6 speed. That's the truth of the matter.
03-04-2004, 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by harddrivin1le
Actually, it's the "idiots with baseless claims will eat crow" forum...
A STOCK 1969 "375 HP" (SAE GROSS) 396 would be hard pressed to keep pace with a stock TL/6 speed. That's the truth of the matter.
Actually, it's the "idiots with baseless claims will eat crow" forum...
A STOCK 1969 "375 HP" (SAE GROSS) 396 would be hard pressed to keep pace with a stock TL/6 speed. That's the truth of the matter.
03-04-2004, 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by TLud
could someone direct me to the acura tl forum? i thought this was it, but apparently it's the mullet hotrodders anonymous forum.
could someone direct me to the acura tl forum? i thought this was it, but apparently it's the mullet hotrodders anonymous forum.
:p 
03-04-2004, 09:39 PM
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And all this back and forth has what to do with HIDs vs. halogen?
And all this back and forth has what to do with HIDs vs. halogen?
03-04-2004, 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by UminChu
Is Harddrivin *still* at it?! Omg, he'd argue with a stop sign.
Is Harddrivin *still* at it?! Omg, he'd argue with a stop sign.
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showth...postid=3427%5C
Same thing at clubtsx.com.
I'd vote for the stop sign in a battle wits between them.
Mike
03-04-2004, 10:30 PM
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http://www.google.com/search?q=hardd...e=off&filter=0
http://www.altavista.com/web/results...ls=1&avkw=aapt
Also in BMW forums, more trolling
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=...yc=44868&icp=1
Same Bullsh!t, diff'rent forums.
This turd has absolutely no life.
http://www.altavista.com/web/results...ls=1&avkw=aapt
Also in BMW forums, more trolling
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=...yc=44868&icp=1
Same Bullsh!t, diff'rent forums.
This turd has absolutely no life.
03-04-2004, 10:35 PM
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Admin and/or Moderators, have you not seen enough? Please read the links. I am amazed! If it were not for the differences in the user names, I would swear I was still reading this forum.
Restrict him now!
Restrict him now!
03-04-2004, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Skeedatl
The point is to troll. 1LE is a dumbass troller, banned from other Acura forums so now he's here spreading his B.S.
The point is to troll. 1LE is a dumbass troller, banned from other Acura forums so now he's here spreading his B.S.
03-04-2004, 11:07 PM
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One update for harddrivin1le,
Honda has been producing V6 Accords since 1995. I don't mind posting that here because it's at least about Honda.
Honda sold V6 Accords since when - 1997?
03-04-2004, 11:12 PM
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Internet trolling could be the next big thing in Psychology 101, and hardrivin could be the perfect case study.
What really goes on in the heads of these trolls?
Not only does he troll, but he does it under the impression that he is some sort of god: what he says is truth, and everyone else just utters "biased" opinions.
We might be looking at someone who is about to become famous. He might get a syndrome named after him.
What really goes on in the heads of these trolls?
Not only does he troll, but he does it under the impression that he is some sort of god: what he says is truth, and everyone else just utters "biased" opinions.
We might be looking at someone who is about to become famous. He might get a syndrome named after him.
03-04-2004, 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Skeedatl
If EVERYONE just puts him on ignore and we tell any new people what he's about he will go away.
If EVERYONE just puts him on ignore and we tell any new people what he's about he will go away.
i wonder who his employer is and I wonder if they would hire me because i wouldn't mind a job where I get paid to talk about cars online all day.
03-04-2004, 11:57 PM
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Is this Torqueaholic from a few other sites? The 2-door Accord EX V6 you drive, as well as ability to argue for 15 pages about the color of the sky gave it away. I'm from the Acura CL site, and if it's Torquie, he's been banned close to 30 times from that site. He keeps coming back as he has a dynamic IP address.
He's also been banned from the Z website, Mustang, LS1 forums, etc... He's probably the biggest troll to ever exist on car forums.
In regards to the topic of this thread, I own both an 03 Accord EX and 350Z. The Accord headlights (halogen) are clearly inferior to the Z's headlights (HID) and my old CL's (HID also). The Accord beams may travel the same distance, but the HID's make a much brighter light in front of the car, and the light beam spreads out much further to the left and right of the car, providing a much better ability to see in dark areas.
I'd take HID's over Halogen any day.
He's also been banned from the Z website, Mustang, LS1 forums, etc... He's probably the biggest troll to ever exist on car forums.
In regards to the topic of this thread, I own both an 03 Accord EX and 350Z. The Accord headlights (halogen) are clearly inferior to the Z's headlights (HID) and my old CL's (HID also). The Accord beams may travel the same distance, but the HID's make a much brighter light in front of the car, and the light beam spreads out much further to the left and right of the car, providing a much better ability to see in dark areas.
I'd take HID's over Halogen any day.
03-05-2004, 12:07 AM
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I think that's a different guy. Same species though.
Mike
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03-05-2004, 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by TLud
yeah, if no one responds to anything he says except to tell noobs to stop talking to him, that would be more effective than to ban him.
i wonder who his employer is and I wonder if they would hire me because i wouldn't mind a job where I get paid to talk about cars online all day.
yeah, if no one responds to anything he says except to tell noobs to stop talking to him, that would be more effective than to ban him.
i wonder who his employer is and I wonder if they would hire me because i wouldn't mind a job where I get paid to talk about cars online all day.
03-05-2004, 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
I'd take HID's over Halogen any day.
I'd take HID's over Halogen any day.
Unless of course there's a hill in front of you. It would be nice to have a visual range that exceeds 50' at 45 mph.
03-05-2004, 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by hoyahenry
Unless of course there's a hill in front of you. It would be nice to have a visual range that exceeds 50' at 45 mph.
Unless of course there's a hill in front of you. It would be nice to have a visual range that exceeds 50' at 45 mph.
03-06-2004, 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by mspence3
I don't fully understand. Please elaborate.
I don't fully understand. Please elaborate.
03-06-2004, 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by hoyahenry
Unless of course there's a hill in front of you. It would be nice to have a visual range that exceeds 50' at 45 mph.
Unless of course there's a hill in front of you. It would be nice to have a visual range that exceeds 50' at 45 mph.
03-06-2004, 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by corey415
I believe he is referring to the sharp cut off projector HID setups have; there is barely any light above the cutoff line. The cutoff for a halogen lighting system is nowhere near as sharp, since the light is not as intense as HID.
I believe he is referring to the sharp cut off projector HID setups have; there is barely any light above the cutoff line. The cutoff for a halogen lighting system is nowhere near as sharp, since the light is not as intense as HID.
03-06-2004, 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by adam209
that wouldn't be a problem is they had the self-leveling hid's. maybe in the future acura will put this in
that wouldn't be a problem is they had the self-leveling hid's. maybe in the future acura will put this in
....or a good set of halogens.
03-06-2004, 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by hoyahenry
addam209 - yes, HID leveling would be nice. I was surprised to learn they weren't available.
addam209 - yes, HID leveling would be nice. I was surprised to learn they weren't available.