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Old 05-17-2012, 01:09 PM
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shark my 08 type S is covered
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^I bet you Acura forgot they made a Type-S
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
...luckilly it is a very simple repair and just requires a replacement o-ring.
Negative. It replaces the entire hose and O-ring. And it's not a simple install.

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^yes but the hose starts to leak because of a faulty o-ring...
O-ring is not the major issue, see above.

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Illegal for them to refuse it on salvage/rebuilt vehicles.
Safety Recalls apply for any type of title. Don't let the dealer tell you otherwise.

FYI, the copy of the previous recall can be found here (TSB 08-016). Follow the instructions at the top first:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-tl-technical-service-bulletins-tsbs-3g-garage-j-016-a-613659/
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Negative. It replaces the entire hose and O-ring. And it's not a simple install.



No, see above.



Safety Recalls apply for any type of title. Don't let the dealer tell you otherwise.

FYI, the copy of the previous recall can be found here (TSB 08-016). Follow the instructions at the top first:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659
oh. i guess i was talking about something else. what's the deal with the o-ring?
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
oh. i guess i was talking about something else. what's the deal with the o-ring?
Afaik, the faulty O-ring is responsible for air getting into the system, but not leakage of fluid.

The recall includes replacing the O-ring (or at least the previous recall did), but the major issue is that the old hoses are unprotected from heat from the rear bank exhaust and eventually can crack/split and spew fluid onto the rear bank exhaust... FIRE!!!

The new hoses have some kind of metal covering/shield to better protect from the heat.
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Just called dealership, they have a recall on my 08 type s
Old 05-17-2012, 01:21 PM
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^oh

yeah that does ring a bell actually. i'll call after work and see if mine is covered. might have them check out my faulty nav drive while i'm there.

thanks for the clarification
Old 05-17-2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Bet it's for the Type-S's - which the dumb-asses excluded as a class in the BIG (273,000) recall.

I'll see if I can find the NHTSA docs and/or TSB's.

Thanks for the heads up.

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B12-020.pdf
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Thank you sir. I'll get it posted on our TSB page.
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
this thing is ridiculous.

you got a type-s? what year? 07 and the VIN matches...you're in luck! you are covered!

oh...you have an 08 type-s? sorry...this doesn't apply to you. better luck next time.



Depending o the specific vehicle, this might be legit for an '08.

You have to remember that all cars made AFTER the defect is found/suspected probably already incorporate the fix and therefore don't need the recall.

It's the 2007 TL-S's that baffled me. MT's got it; AT's didn't. '07/'08 Base got it. '07/'08 TL-S (AT) did not.

Then Acura giving all kinds of horseshit excuses about different routing, different material, different connections, different vendor, blah, blah, blah, .... .

They couldn't even offer a cohesive logical reason for the exclusion. And now they're back, 4-years later, doing the work anyhow. Jackasses.

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Old 05-17-2012, 01:55 PM
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i just called. my car is part of the recall and scheduled an appointment. anyone know exactly what this procedure will change?
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^what do you mean? they change out the entire hose/o-ring and replace it with one that won't leak and catch your car on fire.
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o ok, so just the hose and o-ring? i've alrdy changed the o-ring before but i guess i'll be getting another one lol. my hose probably does need to be changed though, i think it might have a small leak
Old 05-17-2012, 02:12 PM
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Just called dealership, they have a recall on my 08 type s
So this applies to Canada as well ?
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Just got back from the dealership guys, it looks like the new hose has a heat shield of some type on it. I'm not sure if they replaced the O-ring or not.

Be advised, if you have an aftermarket J-pipe they may want to charge you half hour labor because the have to remove part of it. I don't know if this was BS or not but I paid it because this dealership has taken care of things in the past they could have easily denied, I won't go into more detail about that.
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Originally Posted by mau108
So this applies to Canada as well ?
Canadian recalls work under a different system. Ours are goverened by The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA).

While the assumption would be this is also a recall in Canada, I don't know how to actaully show that or look it up.

What I'm saying is, you have to find out if this IS a recall in Canada and then what the notification/repair process is for Canadian vehicles.
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Originally Posted by VanyDotK
Just got back from the dealership guys, it looks like the new hose has a heat shield of some type on it. I'm not sure if they replaced the O-ring or not.

Be advised, if you have an aftermarket J-pipe they may want to charge you half hour labor because the have to remove part of it. I don't know if this was BS or not but I paid it because this dealership has taken care of things in the past they could have easily denied, I won't go into more detail about that.
Supposed to replace the o-ring per the TSB/Recall Repair instructions.



Regards J-Pipe, they have to remove it whether it's stock or not stock. Charging for an after-market seems chickenshit to me.
Old 05-17-2012, 03:22 PM
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Mine didn't show up on myacura.com, but I called and my 07 Type-S 5AT was part of the recall and they said they are replacing the hose. I would imagine they'll replace the O-ring as well, but I'll verify that when I call to make my appt for next week.
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Originally Posted by KJ 3G TL
.... I would imagine they'll replace the O-ring as well, but I'll verify that when I call to make my appt for next week.
Just read the TSB.

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.





TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Just read the TSB.

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.



TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Just read the TSB.

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.





TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659
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Does it also mean the fluid will be replaced if the hose recall is done?
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Does it also mean the fluid will be replaced if the hose recall is done?
Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Just read the TSB.

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.





TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659

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Glad I saw this on Autoblog this morning. I just had the PS hose replaced a month ago for $500. Called the dealer today and they refunded everything - pretty happy about it - 90k on my '08 already and I've spent about $150 in actual non-wear maintenance since I bought it new.
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Does it also mean the fluid will be replaced if the hose recall is done?
Please read the TSB. Fluid is included on the parts list.
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Originally Posted by KJ 3G TL
Mine didn't show up on myacura.com, but I called and my 07 Type-S 5AT was part of the recall and they said they are replacing the hose. I would imagine they'll replace the O-ring as well, but I'll verify that when I call to make my appt for next week.
Yes, as already noted, the O-ring is supposed to be replaced per the TSB, but on the first round of TSB, several dealerships skipped that step... Beware.

Also, one or two guys got charged for PS fluid IIRC...
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My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?
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Just called Acura today and luckily my VIN was not part of the recall.
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Honda Motor Co.'s Acura brand is recalling 56,881 TL sedans from model years 2007 and 2008 in North America to replace a power steering hose that could leak over time and potentially cause a fire.

The recall affects 52,615 TL sedans in the U.S. and another 4,266 in Canada, the Japanese automaker said.


Acura said the hose may deteriorate and leak over time. Leaking fluid could lead to a loss of power steering assistance or could cause smoke and fire, the Japanese automaker said.

Acura said no crashes, injuries or fires have been reported related to the issue.

The company said owners will be notified of the recall by mail, beginning in mid-June. Customers also can see whether their car is affected by the recall at www.recalls.acura.com or www.acura.ca/recalls.
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Originally Posted by dstah
My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?
At your age, they may not let you have one. It depends. Some carry insurance that does not allow 'rentals;' to anyone under 25.

If you can get a loaner, it should be no cost. However, if the dealership is busy and has a lot of loaners out, there may not be one available when your arrive. Best to make an appt and request a loaner.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Regards J-Pipe, they have to remove it whether it's stock or not stock. Charging for an after-market seems chickenshit to me.
You're right, I looked at the service bulletin and aftermarket J-pipe or not, it would have to come off regardless. I called the service manager he said he'll look at the service bulletin in the morning and get back to me, he seemed very accommodating. I'll let everybody know how it goes when he gets back to me tomorrow.
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My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?
Print out the service bulletin and take it with you just in case they try to tell you they have to charge extra, hopefully you won't need to pull it out.
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Confirmed Canada as well

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...chResult&pg=-1
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Originally Posted by dstah
My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?
Which dealership are you going to? I called Acura of Glendale and they said that the parts for the recall don't come in til the following week. I made my appointment for the 25th. I asked how long it takes and the guy on the phone said that it should take about 3 hours.

So I'm going to assume that they won't give me a loaner for three hours.
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They told me 1.5 to 2 hours, and I told them I would need a loaner. I don't think time really matters unless it's just an oil change or something.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Depending o the specific vehicle, this might be legit for an '08.

You have to remember that all cars made AFTER the defect is found/suspected probably already incorporate the fix and therefore don't need the recall.

It's the 2007 TL-S's that baffled me. MT's got it; AT's didn't. '07/'08 Base got it. '07/'08 TL-S (AT) did not.

Then Acura giving all kinds of horseshit excuses about different routing, different material, different connections, different vendor, blah, blah, blah, .... .

They couldn't even offer a cohesive logical reason for the exclusion. And now they're back, 4-years later, doing the work anyhow. Jackasses.

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Which dealership are you going to? I called Acura of Glendale and they said that the parts for the recall don't come in til the following week. I made my appointment for the 25th. I asked how long it takes and the guy on the phone said that it should take about 3 hours.

So I'm going to assume that they won't give me a loaner for three hours.
What the hell ? Are you sure ? I have an appointment on Saturday at Acura of Glendale . I already have an appointment / loaner car ready for me on sat. Who did you speak to? I spoke to brad. He got my insurance info and everything
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I told him about the aftermarket parks I have ( j pipe ) and he said that isn't a problem
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What the hell ? Are you sure ? I have an appointment on Saturday at Acura of Glendale . I already have an appointment / loaner car ready for me on sat. Who did you speak to? I spoke to brad. He got my insurance info and everything

I talked with a guy named Tony. I just gave him my name, cell #, and VIN. Knowing this makes me sort of sad. Did you purchase your car from Glendale? Because I picked mine up from Acura of the Desert in Palm Springs.
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wait, I cant get a loaner if im under 25? what am i gonna drive then?!
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
wait, I cant get a loaner if im under 25? what am i gonna drive then?!
Chances are they just expect you to wait there if you have to. Sucks, but I wouldn't expect them to loan a car out to someone under 25.(age to rent a car here)


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