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Old 09-22-2005, 08:53 AM
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2006 TL Disappointed

I was seriously thinking of getting 2006 TL-NAV as my next car after my 2003 TLS-NAV lease ends in Feb 2006, but i was disappointed my the minor changes they have made, i was hoping that the front grill will get some face lift, the front and the side profile really don't do any good to this car in my opinion, the new BMW line up kicks serious Ass as does the Audi line up, I will now consider either M3 or A6. I don't buy the price argument that much, value for money does not mean you don't fix some thing as basic and front grill, rattles, tyre quality, dash fade etc.
when you want a good car you want a good car, yes you don't pay $75K extra, but I guess $10-12K for something far better is worth doing.

Though a part of me says to extend my lease till 2006 Oct, and wait for 2007 TL and hope they do some serious make over, guess I'll await the responce here??.
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It's hard to improve on perfection...lol
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I say go buy a Euro and then wish you would have bought the TL. To many friends to count went the Euro route and all I hear is them bitching about it and the costs to maintain and mod it

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Originally Posted by prashants17
I was seriously thinking of getting 2006 TL-NAV as my next car after my 2003 TLS-NAV lease ends in Feb 2006, but i was disappointed my the minor changes they have made, i was hoping that the front grill will get some face lift, the front and the side profile really don't do any good to this car in my opinion, the new BMW line up kicks serious Ass as does the Audi line up, I will now consider either M3 or A6. I don't buy the price argument that much, value for money does not mean you don't fix some thing as basic and front grill, rattles, tyre quality, dash fade etc.
when you want a good car you want a good car, yes you don't pay $75K extra, but I guess $10-12K for something far better is worth doing.

Though a part of me says to extend my lease till 2006 Oct, and wait for 2007 TL and hope they do some serious make over, guess I'll await the responce here??.
yeah feel the sameway here. the 06 changes sucks. i was hoping for a few more changes than that, like replacing the key fob since its really cheap looking and bad quality. oh well. man, now i am debating if i should just buy an 05 instead and save me a few grand cuz i sure am not going to pay anything close to MSRP for an 06 with almost the same car. Maybe I will wait for lexus IS 350 to come out, but damn, I need a car now...
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I don't see how a M3 is equivalent to a TL, thats just me. I'm goin to merge this with our current 2006 thread
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06 Info has been slipping out for months now. So I don't understand what the dissapointment is.
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:38 PM
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2006 Tl

Just checked www.acura.com
Only change is a tire pressure monitoring system
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Does anyone know if there are gonnabe wood trims for the ebony color on the 06? anyone else consider that also?
Based on the 06 brochure it looks like the wood will only come with the Camel and Parchment interiors. I want the dark wood with the Quartz so I am going the after market route.
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Originally Posted by jowaldo
Found the link.. and verified its MSRP of $250

http://corporate.honda.com/press/art...=2005090754774
Will they be able to add this to '04s & '05s?
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Will they be able to add this to '04s & '05s?
From what it sounds like, I'd have to say no... but there hasn't been a definite answer as far as I know.
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2006 TL Upgrade

I just read that one of the upgrades on the 2006 TL is thicker glass to insulate from the outside noise. I thought they had already done a great job at noise abatement.
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Restricted colors on 6MT

It appears that you can only get blue, white, black, and silver in a 6MT and you cannot get parchment or camel interior.

If you want parchment or camel or one of the other colors, you have to an automatic.

Try building a 6MT with Navi and HPT and see what color choices it gives you.
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Originally Posted by djs1145
I just read that one of the upgrades on the 2006 TL is thicker glass to insulate from the outside noise. I thought they had already done a great job at noise abatement.
Are you sure? we already had this and I thought this was unchanged.
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Old 09-24-2005, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Xpditor
It appears that you can only get blue, white, black, and silver in a 6MT and you cannot get parchment or camel interior.

If you want parchment or camel or one of the other colors, you have to an automatic.

Try building a 6MT with Navi and HPT and see what color choices it gives you.
I think this is just a website issue. I can't find anywhere in the 06 brochure where it states there is a color restriction on the 6MT with Navi and HPT. Plus if you build a 6MT without the HPT you get all the color choices.
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Yes, this is small:
Is there any indication that the TL key/keyfob will be changed? Or will it be same as the '05?

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Based on the 06 brochure it will be the same.
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Originally Posted by Batman-JGII
Based on the 06 brochure it will be the same.
*sigh*
My wife can't understand why it bothers me, hell I don't understand either. But damn it, it does bother me that it'll be the same key. Perhaps it's because her RSX has the same keys and they get torn up pretty good.
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Originally Posted by shingles
*sigh*
My wife can't understand why it bothers me, hell I don't understand either. But damn it, it does bother me that it'll be the same key. Perhaps it's because her RSX has the same keys and they get torn up pretty good.
If there is any change being made to the key my guess is that the '07 MMC will show it.
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Originally Posted by shingles
*sigh*
My wife can't understand why it bothers me, hell I don't understand either. But damn it, it does bother me that it'll be the same key. Perhaps it's because her RSX has the same keys and they get torn up pretty good.

I feel exactly the same way. I couldnt believe we are using the same keyfob as the 3 years old RSX. I live with my bro and he has the 2002 RSX and that key fob is so beat up and quality is not good at all. Shouldnt they go with at least the accords keyfob. Thats one of the many reasons I am going to get a RL instead.
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My issue is, while I like the RL, my wife wants a car with a manual.
She's hung up on the fact that the RL is auto only. Truthfully, I prefer a manual box as well.
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I'm so glad I didn't have my hopes up to possibly get a 2006 and think anything had improved. After finally coming back to the forum and reading for a day I see this:

Acura hasn't gotten any better to their 04 and 05 owners.
the 06 won't be any better,
my Abyss Blue will be gone.

So ya know what i"m pricing up now ?? a 2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4x4. go figure. Aside from the CTS-V, there is hardly any other car out right now that I like, that's pretty sad.
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Originally Posted by Sherlock
I'm so glad I didn't have my hopes up to possibly get a 2006 and think anything had improved. After finally coming back to the forum and reading for a day I see this:

Acura hasn't gotten any better to their 04 and 05 owners.
the 06 won't be any better,
my Abyss Blue will be gone.

So ya know what i"m pricing up now ?? a 2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4x4. go figure. Aside from the CTS-V, there is hardly any other car out right now that I like, that's pretty sad.
The TL isn't ready for any major Changes. Minor ones have been made since the second model year. Some of those changes are seen and others are running improvements.

Next model year will be the year the TL goes through it's update. Sales remain strong so why should Acura do things early. The TSX has been on the market for a while longer and with new competion coming out it was due for some work to help keep it fresh. The RL needed to add the Tech package to keep what demand up and truth be told the Tech package was coming anyway.
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yea get a truck buddy and enjoy paying 100 bucks for a tank of gas. They are most likely changin the TL for 07 just like the 99-01s being the same, i noticed some of you saying that was 2 years but you re not thinking about the year 00 remember that. Anyway from what I know they will have an all wheel drive 300 hp Type S in 07 but that is rumoured not comfirmed.
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yea get a truck buddy and enjoy paying 100 bucks for a tank of gas. They are most likely changin the TL for 07 just like the 99-01s being the same, i noticed some of you saying that was 2 years but you re not thinking about the year 00 remember that. Anyway from what I know they will have an all wheel drive 300 hp Type S in 07 but that is rumoured not comfirmed.
I'd say the Type S is not happening as Acura said the last Type S would be on the RSX. The power increase needs to be just that with no new model or Acura needs to come up with something to remplace the T-S. A Spec is nice but has no go faster bits to it. I still like Honda's question raised after the TSX/ JDM Accord was introduced "Beyond Type R". That model used IMA and the 2.4 to generate 250 hp.

AWD is a reoccuring rumor born out of Acura stating that SH-AWD can be used for any existing V6. We do know that it will appear on the RDX. 300 hp would be nice as they need to do something since the HP rating is less then before and would been seen as a major power increase. However, I wonder about the RL if this happens.

I'd like to see a performance hybrid that is just that. Forget about the extra fuel that will be saved. A hybrid TL will not get you to 60 mph in 5 sec and return 50 mpg on the highway.
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i work for a precision team acura dealer and the owner is on the design council so if he doesnt know what he is talking about maybe it would be better that you told him
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Originally Posted by djs1145
I just read that one of the upgrades on the 2006 TL is thicker glass to insulate from the outside noise. I thought they had already done a great job at noise abatement.
Is this an upgrade for 2006 or simply a continuation of 2004-05 glass specs?

Do you have a link to the info?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by HotBoyinDaAcura
i work for a precision team acura dealer and the owner is on the design council so if he doesnt know what he is talking about maybe it would be better that you told him
I was going off what Acura said in a press release regarding the TSX not having a Type-S version (at the time people were bemoning the fact the car had only 200hp and a 4 banger).

When the TL was introduced and the stated hp was 270 it was said that a Type S wasn't needed and that 270 was good for the moment.

I will admit that it will not be the first time Honda has been deceptive (No, we will not build a pickup truck as it doesn't fit our line up) and witness the Ridgeline. The next NSX was an on again/ off again project that was probably never really off to begain with. The RSX was rumored to be canned but now it may not be.

I have no doubt that a more powerful TL is coming next year and have no doubt that AWD could be apart of the package as I've stated before the TL is considered about perfect with only one blimish and that is the power is being sent to the front wheels. I would like to see them make A-Spec a factory model with go fast parts and a nice enhanced look.
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The Type-S moniker is dead... and all Acura dealers are "precision team" it seems, and if Nalley Acura can be one, then I can get chimps to work on my TL and be certified "precision Acura team".

I don't forsee SH-AWD on the TL this model cycle. My prediction is this:

The redesigned 2008 Accord V6 will have SH-AWD, and the TL will be left to flounder with FWD it's final year before a redesign. This is usually the way it goes with Honda since the cycles for the Accord and the TL are one year off, the Accord being redesigned first. For that one year (1998 and 2003 are examples) the Accord will be better than the TL. After that, it goes the other way for 4 years. It's a chain - think about it.
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Honda will only provide AWD for its Acura Division. That will allow them to distinguish the models from the Honda Accords, Civics, etc.. The Honda Pilot, CRV have 4WD.

Also, the SH-AWD will probably be ONLY in the RL until both the TL and RL's are fully refreshed (2009 or 2010). A mid-year refresh in 2007 won't bring SH-AWD to the TL.

In 2009, who knows what Acura will have. Possibly a S-Class type sedan and of course, the new NSX !
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I do believe the Accord will get SH-AWD. It's inevitable, it seems. The Accord right now is nearly as powerful as the TL. Plus, whatever the JDM version of the USDM Accord is (what's it called?) has been tested with it.
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I do believe the Accord will get SH-AWD. It's inevitable, it seems. The Accord right now is nearly as powerful as the TL. Plus, whatever the JDM version of the USDM Accord is (what's it called?) has been tested with it.
It is called the Honda Inspire.

I doubt the Accord will get SH-AWD but rather the new version of Real-Time AWD which will leave this system for Acura. Now I could be wrong and Honda could benchmark Audi/VW and use their approach for Quattro (Honda could call it something else.
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Originally Posted by static808
Honda will only provide AWD for its Acura Division. That will allow them to distinguish the models from the Honda Accords, Civics, etc.. The Honda Pilot, CRV have 4WD.

Also, the SH-AWD will probably be ONLY in the RL until both the TL and RL's are fully refreshed (2009 or 2010). A mid-year refresh in 2007 won't bring SH-AWD to the TL.

In 2009, who knows what Acura will have. Possibly a S-Class type sedan and of course, the new NSX !
The Pilot has VTM4 just as the MDX but that won't last as the next MDX is rumored to use SH-AWD which is the next generation of VTM4. The CRV's system is a new version of Real-Time that dates back to the Civic Wagovan of the '80's.
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Not sure what the update will bring for next years TL but I'm sure a power increase is coming. Since the hp is now rated at 258 or so and not 270 than this could buy Acura more time to justify FWD. When the TL was still rated at 270 Acura indicated that the TL was pushing the limits of FWD and that much power. So, now they could forget that statement was made and thus push power to 290 and then make the same claim.

The only problem is that 290 is close to the RL's. Acura could follow the lead of Lexus and have the middle offering more powerful then the top offering (which I think it should do anyway) but that may crowd the RL since unlike the GS and LS there isn't that much of a difference equipment or size wise between the two.
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Originally Posted by static808

Also, the SH-AWD will probably be ONLY in the RL until both the TL and RL's are fully refreshed (2009 or 2010).
The upcoming RDX is getting SH-AWD.
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Not sure what the update will bring for next years TL but I'm sure a power increase is coming. Since the hp is now rated at 258 or so and not 270 than this could buy Acura more time to justify FWD. When the TL was still rated at 270 Acura indicated that the TL was pushing the limits of FWD and that much power. So, now they could forget that statement was made and thus push power to 290 and then make the same claim.

The only problem is that 290 is close to the RL's. Acura could follow the lead of Lexus and have the middle offering more powerful then the top offering (which I think it should do anyway) but that may crowd the RL since unlike the GS and LS there isn't that much of a difference equipment or size wise between the two.

FWIW, the power output is exactly the same as for last two years. The rating system changed, not the output of the engine.
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Anyone else think the new Ipod nano is trash. I bought this damn thing like 2 weeks ago. The battery lasts for 3-4 hours and it gets scratched so easily. I'm taking this damn thing back.
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FWIW, the power output is exactly the same as for last two years. The rating system changed, not the output of the engine.
Yes I know. I should have been more clear. I understand that my engine is not magically less powerful then it was last year.

I will say with "only" a rated 258 I can imagine what 270 would feel like.
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Originally Posted by Precision Crafted
It is called the Honda Inspire.

I doubt the Accord will get SH-AWD but rather the new version of Real-Time AWD which will leave this system for Acura. Now I could be wrong and Honda could benchmark Audi/VW and use their approach for Quattro (Honda could call it something else.
According to a link to Edmunds.com's future auto news page found over at the RL forum, SH-AWD will eventually make its way to all Honda produced cars - even the Civic.
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