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Old 03-10-2008, 12:50 AM
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Credit where credit is due.

You called it. I didn't think any amount of bad driving would overcome his HP/TQ advantage.

Seriously though, be careful out there. No matter how good a driver you are, you can't predict how others on the road are going to act/react.

You get dodging in and out of traffic, even at fairly modest speeds, and somebody unexpectedly changes lanes into you and you're both toast.
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Credit where credit is due.

You called it. I didn't think any amount of bad driving would overcome his HP/TQ advantage.

Seriously though, be careful out there. No matter how good a driver you are, you can't predict how others on the road are going to act/react.

You get dodging in and out of traffic, even at fairly modest speeds, and somebody unexpectedly changes lanes into you and you're both toast.
yea i know i try to be careful but now i am done cause i dont wanna waste my free gas and money cause i am going poor lol.
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
vids? and good job. kudos to you.

".... i once raced a 03 tl-s on the turnpike and beat him in like cutting off cars .... ."

and seriously. not cool. dangerous. atleast go to the track if you want to do that kind of stuff.
haha ok well i dont know how old you are but if you are a older person please tell me you never did that stunt in ur life when you were younger cause i know for hell most people on here cut someone off just to switch lane because there is a car in front of them and switch back to the other line because there is no car when they were racing. i am not saying you ever did that but in my area we only have a quater mile track and not a track where you can race like alot of cars i forget what it called.
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Originally Posted by loojoohnnyl
woot! i ran this kid and won $20 and a full tank off gas! we raced on a main road at 3 AM in the morning. there was about 20 spectator watching. road was clear and no cars coming. went up to the red light and when it turn green i launched it and pulled on him 3 car length. second race i pulled him another 3 car length. 3 race i pulled on him another 3 car length. i would shut down at 100 and he would shut down at 75 cause he got scared. this kid is the kind of kid who cant drive because he gotta be all pretty boy and dont know shit bout cars. i know if there was a better good driver i would lose for sure and would never do the race but i knew this kid and how shitty he drive and destroyed him with a full system in my car. i was going to take out my sub but i knew my chance was high of beating him and got lazy to take out the 15inch sub woofer.
You knew you had a high chance of beating him when 80% of the respondents in this thread said you'd lose? The only reason you pulled three cars was because he shut down at 75...

@DirtyJohn, is that 108 leaded? I've only seen up to 104 in unleaded.

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Originally Posted by DIRTYJOHN
This is only my experience and a trick i learn from the guy who was dynoing my car!!

U should try it, take a stock TL with regular gas and drive it down the track and see what kind of time the car get. THen take the same TL and pump 98 which they do sell at the track and drive it down the track! man it will improve ur car by .4 or .5 of a sec! UNTUNE!! may not be safe but its not like youre doing it all the time just something i learn hehehe..

When i was dynoing my TL on Nitrous a long time ago i had 314 whp on pump gas so eddie who owns this machine shop told me to go buy 4 octane booster and pour it in the tank! (I WAS ALMOST FULL) RAN It on the dyno twice! I got 319 whp and then the last one was 318!
I don't know what you're smoking that you think octane booster will shave a half second off one's quarter mile et, but it just aint happenin'.
Old 03-10-2008, 09:13 PM
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I think he said 0.4-0.5s...besides..after seeing what dirtyjohn has done (beating vette, smoking saleen mustang..g35..GTO..etc)...I have no reason to not believe him...

Anyways, whoa, that eclipse driver really sucks eh? hahaha he probably shifted up at 5000rpm or something!
Old 03-10-2008, 10:23 PM
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I guess I was wrong about thinking you'd lose. Then again, you did mention he was a crappy driver.

Congrats on your kill, $20, and full tank of gas!
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Originally Posted by iforyou
I think he said 0.4-0.5s...besides..after seeing what dirtyjohn has done (beating vette, smoking saleen mustang..g35..GTO..etc)...I have no reason to not believe him...

Anyways, whoa, that eclipse driver really sucks eh? hahaha he probably shifted up at 5000rpm or something!
He typed .4 or .5 which = 4/10 or 1/2.

You typed 0.4-0.5 which is exactly the same. I would think you'd know that, being a mechanical engineering student!

.04 or .05 would be 4/100 or 5/100, which is certainly plausible.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
He typed .4 or .5 which = 4/10 or 1/2.

You typed 0.4-0.5 which is exactly the same. I would think you'd know that, being a mechanical engineering student!

.04 or .05 would be 4/100 or 5/100, which is certainly plausible.
I agree, no way in hell is that gonna shave a half second off your time.

FYI, the higher the octane level of the gas, the slower the fuel burns. High octane fuel does not have any more energy than regular fuel. To make the most power, you want a quality correct octane fuel that wont make the engine ping or knock.

A high compression engine causes the fuel to burn faster, resulting in the pistons being hit hard, like a hammer, when the fuel ignites. High octane allows the fuel to burn more evenly, allowing a high compression engine to develop more power.

BUT!

Higher octane fuel offers no advantage to low compression engines.
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Originally Posted by Syed
Speaking of high octane gas does anybody know where you can buy 110 octane gas. Some dude that was selling his Acura Integra Type R said that his car does 10 sec 1/4 mile with 110 octane gas. Obviously his car is boosted but never got a chance to ask him where I can buy 110 Octane gas. He was referring it to as "racing gas". Anybody?
Racing gas won't help much if any at all on a stock car, but it will if your car is boosted.... and even then it can only really take advantage of the extra octane if your ECU has a fuel map optimized for 110. And FYI, make sure the fuel is unleaded or at least not airplane gas. Putting leaded gas into can destroy your cats. I know a guy who put airplane gas (100-something octane) in his modded MR2 Turbo and it hauled ass but his car's been running crappy lately.

Racing tracks should have racing gas. When I went to Laguna Seca they had 98 and 101 or something like that, don't remember exactly, don't remember if it was unleaded either.

People with 7G AV6s say they put higher octane gas and got dyno-proven gains but there's a point where it won't do much. That point ends where stock cars begin.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
He typed .4 or .5 which = 4/10 or 1/2.

You typed 0.4-0.5 which is exactly the same. I would think you'd know that, being a mechanical engineering student!

.04 or .05 would be 4/100 or 5/100, which is certainly plausible.
HAHA sorry i read "shave a second"...lol my mistake!!
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Originally Posted by loojoohnnyl
haha ok well i dont know how old you are but if you are a older person please tell me you never did that stunt in ur life when you were younger cause i know for hell most people on here cut someone off just to switch lane because there is a car in front of them and switch back to the other line because there is no car when they were racing. i am not saying you ever did that but in my area we only have a quater mile track and not a track where you can race like alot of cars i forget what it called.
I'm 19 and have never cut someone off because someone was in front of me, or because I was racing. And I've never raced anyone I didn't know on a public road. I have however cut people off a few times and almost ran someone off the road once, just because they were going 50 in the fast lane. It was stupid and I haven't done it since.

Cutting someone off just to change lanes isn't worth the potential repair bill or the ticket or higher insurance.
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They sell VP race gas at the tracks I used to go to.
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Warning: For Honda fans this may be disturbing.


Race Gas makes a big difference especially for this modded RX-3.

First run -> 10.48

Second Run with Race Gas -> 9.58

10.48 - 9.58 = 0.9
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My bad

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=m5D-XkVdDFI
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Originally Posted by loojoohnnyl
haha ok well i dont know how old you are but if you are a older person please tell me you never did that stunt in ur life when you were younger cause i know for hell most people on here cut someone off just to switch lane because there is a car in front of them and switch back to the other line because there is no car when they were racing. i am not saying you ever did that but in my area we only have a quater mile track and not a track where you can race like alot of cars i forget what it called.
i'm 18 and yea, i'm "older" but seriously, i've seen my friend's do this and i just look at it as like, wow, they're stupid. honestly, doing this in the freeway doesn't help anyway cuz its a different experience from the track. "ooo, you cut me off" seriously, is this gonna help you get to your destination any faster?. atleast try a canyon. if you don't have a track. i go canyon runs with my TL time by time. you should try that.
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
i'm 18 and yea, i'm "older" but seriously, i've seen my friend's do this and i just look at it as like, wow, they're stupid. honestly, doing this in the freeway doesn't help anyway cuz its a different experience from the track. "ooo, you cut me off" seriously, is this gonna help you get to your destination any faster?. atleast try a canyon. if you don't have a track. i go canyon runs with my TL time by time. you should try that.
i live in bumble fuck PA their is no canyon but thanks for the idea though.
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good kill...when i had my TLP i got burnt bad by the same gen Eclipse. but in my Type S i hunted down every car I ever lost to in the TLP & just laid the smack down...Now i have some more hunting to do due to Xtra goodies
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
i'm 18 and yea, i'm "older" but seriously, i've seen my friend's do this and i just look at it as like, wow, they're stupid. honestly, doing this in the freeway doesn't help anyway cuz its a different experience from the track. "ooo, you cut me off" seriously, is this gonna help you get to your destination any faster?. atleast try a canyon. if you don't have a track. i go canyon runs with my TL time by time. you should try that.
wish there were canyons down here in TX lol but ya, i hear some of my friends hitting 130 on highways when racing other teens. I would be scared to go that high esp on streets in TX where theres alot of minor bumps and cracks that are sometimes unnoticed. I remember my dad talking about the bad road conditions when he used to play around in his Cobra.
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Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
i say dont race him.

look at this:
Engine is a 3.8 liter V6 SOHC that puts out 263 hp and 260 lb/ft of torque. 0-60 is at 5.8 sec; 1/4 mile is at 14.4 sec at 101 mph. Topspeed is at 148 miles per hour. Gas consumption: 19/27 (city/highway).

if thats the same one. You are screwed. 260 torque and 263 HP. Thats like in the g35/350z/3rd gen TL-S league.

Just dont race him and flake on him. HAhaha its better than getting humiliated by the whole school + pay for his gas. lols.
just out of curiousity...how bout a 3G vs the Eclipse? Comptech Exhaust, Fujita CAI plus other goodies but none other pertaining to performance...SORRY, dont' mean to steal your thread...but I see a lot of those little things around this area...I got raped by the GS-R...the turboed one...whatever it's called...still a POS in my opinion though...but I couldn't say ne thing cause I.........lost haha
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if your automatic you wouldn't stand a chance against those. they do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds. second gen TL-s does 0-60 in 6.1. I raced my friends GSR from 0. He kept up with me till 10 MPH and i pulled so bad on him. He had all bolts on possible i only have CAI/exhaust. i have a video somewhere didnt get a chance to post it up
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but he already beat him because the eclipse's driver can't drive at all.....
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i was responding to erick.
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Originally Posted by erick3
just out of curiousity...how bout a 3G vs the Eclipse? Comptech Exhaust, Fujita CAI plus other goodies but none other pertaining to performance...SORRY, dont' mean to steal your thread...but I see a lot of those little things around this area...I got raped by the GS-R...the turboed one...whatever it's called...still a POS in my opinion though...but I couldn't say ne thing cause I.........lost haha
i think 3G have a chance if you launch ur car right and keep it at full throttle lol.
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u guys have to try it!! I never believed it until i tried it!! NO need to lie about what i use for my car. Just magical things happen when u actually try this kinda stuff.

I never really had a stock car but i would expect things to follow the same way even if its modded. IDK im just learning new things everyday
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