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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 03:22 PM
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Apparently the "7" stands for brake fluid flush. They recommend every 30,000 miles or every 2 years. It costs $160ish at my dealer (not including the oil change). It is really necessary? When I call the service department earlier to make the appointment, they didn't know what is the "7". She said it was only 1 to 6. Is this brake fluid flush new?
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 03:54 PM
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7 is new. Maybe came with 2019 RDX as it didn't exist before. You can check your owners manual to confirm what that means, not sure how you found out it was brake fluid flush.

If your someone that plans to keep the car 10+ years and likes to have good maintenance and health I would just do it then. IF your leasing the car....well.....most people wouldn't. Up to you
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 04:24 PM
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Page 530 of 2019 Owner's Manual...

7 ● Replace brake fluid*5

*5: If a Maintenance Minder Indicator does not appear more than 36 months after the display for item 7 is
reset, change the brake fluid every 3 years
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 04:53 PM
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Call up a Honda mechanic and see how much he charges. Or a Honda dealer, for that matter.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Screw what Honda says. I don't ever change brake fluid.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 05:55 PM
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If 7 is new, then what about the older model acuras? They don't need brake fluid flush? I don't think I ever did brake fluid flush in my other cars. I did it anyways that's what the service minder says.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:09 PM
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My last service warning was A17 and, when I looked it up, it said that 7 was the brake fluid flush.
Booked an online appointment with my dealer. The 7 was listed at $362.00!
When I showed up for the appointment, the service manager said that they don't do brake fluid flush until the car is in service for 3 years.
I may do it next year and I may not. Definitely not for $362.00.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Barbecue Tech Tips
Screw what Honda says. I don't ever change brake fluid.
lol

that's how you get frozen brake calipers...rust forms in the brake lines
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pcmcia
If 7 is new, then what about the older model acuras? They don't need brake fluid flush? I don't think I ever did brake fluid flush in my other cars. I did it anyways that's what the service minder says.
one is supposed to change the brake fluid every three years; no matter what car it is..

brake fluid is hygroscopic, which means it absorbs water from the atmosphere.
not many people change it, however, it would be wise to change it....as it can prevent brake calipers from locking up with rust.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:14 PM
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I just picked up my car. 85ish for oil change ("A" service) and 160ish for brake fluid flush. Total with tax and discount came to just under 240.

My car is 2 years and 2 month old.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:16 PM
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well done!
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:19 PM
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the added "7" in the MID makes me think Acura has wised up and had gotten tired of warranting brake calipers.

even tho in previous cars in the owners manual it states to change brake fluid every three years.

preventive measures are always welcomed measures
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:51 PM
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Your wasting your time honestly. Just get a coolant and brake fluid tester. Save you money and piece of mind.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Barbecue Tech Tips
Your wasting your time honestly. Just get a coolant and brake fluid tester. Save you money and piece of mind.
are you suggesting to skip 3yr brake fluid change?
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by russianDude
are you suggesting to skip 3yr brake fluid change?
no, he's suggesting to test the fluid's electrical conductivity.
which would signal whether or not the fluid has absorbed enough water to light up the pen.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
no, he's suggesting to test the fluid's electrical conductivity.
which would signal whether or not the fluid has absorbed enough water to light up the pen.

Hmm, its $140 at my dealer. does not seem like a big deal to do it every 3 years.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 06:39 PM
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right, I change my own brake fluid every three or so years. for me; it's not that big of a waste as he is suggesting.
I get the piece of mind and the added bonus of inspecting other components while doing the brake fluid swap.

probably one of the best aspects of maintaining a vehicle.... inspecting other components for wear or failure.

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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 10:03 AM
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my 2019 that I bought August 2018 recently showing "A7". while I only have about 14,000 miles it has been in service for 2 years. The main maintenance screen states " its Brake Hydraulic System. Though surprisingly AcuraLink does not go up to "7" CarFax does & is states to Drain, Refill & Bleed Brake Hydraulic System. Most car Mfr's suggest to do this every 2 years regardless of mileage because all brake fluids absorb water which is bad for the system
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 10:08 AM
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I thought it was every 3 years, you sure its two?
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by russianDude
I thought it was every 3 years, you sure its two?
what we are seeing is a shift away from the normal practice of three years...which tells me that manufactures are tired of warrantying the brake system. instead of letting it go for three years and possibly buggering up the brake lines and brake calipers, they rather maintain the system by changing the fluid earlier.

to some, like bbq tech tips, would call it a money grab.
to me; it's a smart idea, especially if one does it him or herself.
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark S Long Island
my 2019 that I bought August 2018 recently showing "A7". while I only have about 14,000 miles it has been in service for 2 years. The main maintenance screen states " its Brake Hydraulic System. Though surprisingly AcuraLink does not go up to "7" CarFax does & is states to Drain, Refill & Bleed Brake Hydraulic System. Most car Mfr's suggest to do this every 2 years regardless of mileage because all brake fluids absorb water which is bad for the system
Interesting... my 2019 was bought in July 2018 and has 28,000 miles. Still no 7.
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 07:52 PM
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Where are you getting 2 years? In manual it says if item #7 does not show up in 3 years, replace brake fluid anyway. Brake fluid on Honda is 30K miles or 3yrs, whichever comes first.
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 10:27 PM
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I’m doing B127 this weekend. Bought all OEM fluid, have the factory manuals, also doing rear diff with the high maintenance plan.

Brakes are easy, with the RDX you do driver front, passenger front, passenger rear, and then driver rear for bleeding. Brake fluid holds water and pulls it in which can cause rust internally
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Old May 23, 2021 | 02:12 AM
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Just did a B127 today. Set me back over $350.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 11:11 AM
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Got A17 at 2 years and 16000 miles. Dealer said they would just inspect the brakes, not bother changing the fluid that soon.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkNinja75
Got A17 at 2 years and 16000 miles. Dealer said they would just inspect the brakes, not bother changing the fluid that soon.
Not sure I would want them to override Acura's recommendation.
Per the maintenance minder,
https://owners.acura.com/utility/dow...der_System.pdf
7 indicates brake fluid change.
But if you don't get a 7 before 3 years, then it should be done at least every 3 years.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 03:32 PM
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2 yr at 16k miles is too early for break fluid, thats rediculous
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Old May 25, 2021 | 04:40 PM
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At my Acura dealer: oil and filter, air filter, tire rotation, brake fluid svc. $238

Brake fluid change for my wife’s Accord at the Honda dealer $130.

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Old May 25, 2021 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
At my Acura dealer: oil and filter, air filter, tire rotation, brake fluid svc. $238
Is that B127? I paid $340 for that.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
Is that B127? I paid $340 for that.
Dunno for sure, since that is the entry of things done on my spreadsheet.

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Old May 26, 2021 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
Dunno for sure, since that is the entry of things done on my spreadsheet.
Also, how current is the pricing? The pandemic has made a lot of things more expensive.
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Old May 26, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
also, how current is the pricing? The pandemic has made a lot of things more expensive.
1/7/21
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Old May 28, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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Just had the service done, they didn't change the fluid. They said the 7 is a inspection and recommendation to change, but not a requirement. It starts popping up after 15k miles. They advised they would change it at the next oil change.
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Old May 28, 2021 | 11:22 AM
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I highly highly recommend getting 7 done. I had a newly built RDX I bought in October of 2018, and I did my service 2 years on the dot. The fluid looked very gross and look pretty bad to be honest. Especially with these electric parking brakes, and the complex systems that let the car brake on its own, I would change it. As the brake fluid absorbs water it will slowly cause the system to rust from the inside out. I did mine myself for about $25 with my wife, but paying a dealer $120-150 isn’t unreasonable at all. A lot of people think, oh it’s fine, the real damage it does is long term, it will probably work great for 5 years, and then have fun replacing thousand dollar components, maybe several. You always hear the people who never changed jack for the life of the car, but brakes to me are a safety thing, and I want my car to last long term. Considering how cheap of a service it is, brake components are very expensive. If you think you know better then the Acura engineers maybe you should start your own car manufacturing company 🤔 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Old May 31, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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I followed the dealer recommendation. They're on the hook for the warranty. They also replaced my pads and rotors less than 6 months ago because of the "recall."
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 06:02 PM
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anyone can post the service manual instructions for the brake fluid bleed/refill? much appreciated. B7 on mine... only 8K at 25 months... will attempt myself
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mike232232
anyone can post the service manual instructions for the brake fluid bleed/refill? much appreciated. B7 on mine... only 8K at 25 months... will attempt myself
This is the bleeding procedure for the13-18 RDX, should be similar (I believe) for the 2019+






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