dom

Totally agree.

And if you'd read the rest of my posts, you'd have realized I know this already. My comments are nothing more than what I would have liked to see.

Acura clearly doesn't want to go RWD (well either that or the mother ship won't let them) As much as I don't agree, 35MPG CAFE standards say otherwise. We'll see what the sales figures have to say.

dom

There are several pictures of the Euro Accord available over at TOV. Multiple angles and all.

Not that I hate the styling, just doesn't do much for me. If you think it will look any different, (besides the grille) let me have some of whatever it is you're smoking.

Colin

Take that one step further and lets say that your jeans factory is running at full capacity and you couldn't make more if you wanted to? Oh and you just set a global production record the year before...

Seriously, I want RWD as much as the next guy, but its not going to happen so there's little point in 'crying about spilled milk"

dom

If complaining wasn't allowed on Auto forums. Might as well shut them all down.

Lets just hope there's Type S that appeases those of us who want a higher performing TSX.

LuvMyTSX

I have a feeling they'll do what they always do with the TL and bring out the Type-S at the end of the cycle.

Colin

Heh, well there is a point there logic fails some folks. On the bright side, I did notice a little space on the steering wheel for a Type-S badge....

Aspire705

I agree with you 100% that for it's time, it was a competitive AT option. I was never denying that. But again, my point is that it's time is well passed & it's long overdue for an "upgrade" plain & simple.

See, I have trouble understanding why such a tranny shouldn't be standard across ALL Acura models when virtually every other luxury makers' competing models (and some non-luxo brands) have them as standard. Audi, BMW, M-B, Caddy, Infiniti (very soon), & Lexus all have 6ATs or better as standard equip.
Why is it ok for Acura not to, even while they claim ascension into Tier-1 luxury status? I don't buy it.

About this comment on waiting for 'higher trim level TSXs' to see if they debut a more competitive AT option, see my reply above about how virtually all of Acura's peers have such options.

p.s. Even relatively "pedestrian" vehicles like the Chevy Malibu, Ford Fusion, Mazda6 & Toyota Camry have 6ATs as options. If I were Acura I'd be embarrassed to admit that fact. Even more so after claiming to join the ranks of premium luxo makes like Aston Martin/Bentley or whatever similarly unlikely target they claimed to be aiming for.
Again, just my .

dom

So I guess this means you've seen it in person? Does it pretty much look like the Euro Accord that we've seen? And how close is the interior to that Euro Accord?

jsalaita

Has anyone seen this photo on Autoblog? Supposedly, it's the 2009 TSX.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/x-200...-tsx-x/633872/

TSXinTN

Good luck. You are giving up reliability, gas mileage, styling and ammenities. Hope it is worth it for more HP and torque.

xjohnkdoex

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OMG, NO WAY!?

xjohnkdoex

iTrader: (2)

let's not overlook the fact that it's ugly.

TSXinTN

Does anyone besides me read the previous posts before posting???

TSXinTN

Thought that would fall under styling...as in it has none!

joerockt

Ah, which just came out today.

I'm just saying a car looks different when someone actually takes "real" pictures of it. I'm waiting till then to pass judgment.

God, the wheels on the Euro are just begging to be ripped off for something else...

dom

Posted about 4 pages back.

So people are getting on others for dismissing the TSX before we've seen it. But it's perfectly ok to that to the G8?

Go have a look at the CTS and tell me if it has a cheap interior.

CarbonGray Earl

Dude, you're still venting, so take it down a notch. I was agreeing with you, just predicting or giving you some hope on how a 6 speed anything might appear.

Better than letting you continue to pound sand, right? Trust me, a 6 speed AT/DSG/SMG would be nice. If you would have told me about this 10 years ago, I would have said Honda would have gotten to it first as opposed to other makes.

PACman

It's the newbies that often don't. Someone will tell them to read the entire thread or search before posting. If they don't get the hint, then we ...

wackura

I'm surprised how so similar the Pontiac G8's steering wheel looks to that of the new Accord. How does this come to pass? Do car companies secretly trade design cues with eachother? How do they all decide what will look cool next year when the general public hasn't weighed in? There's many similarites besides the steering wheel but that particular common aesthetic seems to come out of nowhere. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's like a there's a guy on a grassy knoll yelling "look at me!"

CarbonGray Earl

dom

The new Accord is a good example of looking much better in person than in pics. I wrote it off until I saw it in person. But its so pointless arguing styling. Someone's F430 is another's Aztek.

HondaAcura83

That grill is too much

CarbonGray Earl

I'm waiting to pass judgement too. I've been pleasantly surprised how a couple of recent hondas have looked better in person.

Heck, even watching a car in motion on the internet can give you a different opinion than the static pictures.

Colin

On no, sorry for the confusion, I was looking at the interior pic posted of the Accord steering wheel.

VorteC

Looks good, I like it. Hopefully the rear looks good too, unlike the euro accord.

Here is my chop!

ABP-ish Blue
Dropped
Mugen NR's
35% Tint
Color-matched Lower Grille
JDM Headlights

TMQ

I mean if the TSX gets the Euro Accord dash.

TSX needs some wood in the interior. Wood adds luxury. Most buyers like it.

CCColtsicehockey

The G8 interior looks like the current TL.

Texas

Re G8...times have changed and the tired mantra that the J or G car is better is changing...nothing like a refined slow tsx....check the G8 out next month you will see....remember I drive a tsx and I am tired of the fwd no power trip...was expecting something more from Acura on the tsx ie 6 or turbo and sh for less than a G8.. Oh and the looks too! http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_13.html

krio

The A-Vtec is forgotten somewhere, maybe the next TL will get it?
About the 2.4, I believe our european Accord will LESS powerful of the TSX.
It was 190 hp vs 205 hp till now, now it will be 200 vs... the 240 hp Turbo.
I believe the TSX will get a Turbo RDX version too.

Newplay1

Wow I luv this photochop!

Anyways I think USDM usually get better gauges /Center console compare to euro accord models, and 10-15HP. TL steering wheel with paddle shifter is a plus!!! wooohoo~ Def buying my ticket to NY auto show this April..

Newplay1

http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/740462/09acc_eu-02.jpg

I have to admit that exhaust tip is so nasty, but U.S will probably get dual exhaust like previous gen..

Aspire705

^^Not sure if I'm one of the people this was directed at, but I'll respond anyway.
Ok, now I totally understand what you're saying about seeing the car in person, test driving it, kicking the tires yourself, & all of that other good stuff, before deciding if it's right for you & criticizing it if it's not. But let me put it to you like this.

As an enthusiast who would love to see your brand do a better job living up to expectations & to its full potential, don't we have the right to complain when it doesn't? When it's a product you're considering purchasing for the right price, don't you have the right to expect it to live up to certain specs b4 taking it seriously as a possible candidate for your next vehicle? Well if not, I'm sorry, because that's exactly how I feel.

To me it just doesn't make sense to further consider a vehicle (or any other product really) if it doesn't live up to a few reasonable design specs. Maybe it's just me I guess.
Anyway don't take this as me looking down on anyone else's p.o.v. on the matter. After-all, when it really comes down to it, it's really our money we're spending and no1 else's right? So we should all just do what makes us happy in the end right. Besides, I really like playing devils advocate sometimes.

Oh, & one more thing.. :-)
Seeing as how this is a chat forum (of which I'm an "upstanding member" lol), & the fact that I am also an auto enthusiast at heart, I reserve the right to b#tch, mo@n & otherwise complain about anything & everything relating to Acura, it's products, marketing strategy(ies) or whatever else I (& the really cool & hardworking Mods here ;-p) deem acceptable/appropriate discussion topics within reason. (Until I'm told otherwise of course. :-D) Cool? Great!

/Rant.

CarbonGray Earl

I doubt it'll get the Euro's dash. Based on the current cars, the US Accord and the Euro Accord get the same dash, and the TSX got a different dash altogether. I think the TSX dash is used in other applications in the ROW.

As for wood, that's subjective. Depends on the application. I'm willing to wait and see.

SpicyMikey

Or a V6 variant, or a diesel. Many rumors. Regardless, this optional engine will be matched with SHAWD. That is pretty consistent with all the engine rumors

bgriffin

That might have been true 5 years ago, but things are changing. Take a look at the products that have been released since Bob Lutz was hired. Quality and reliability have improved a lot. I bet you even think Toyotas are still reliable.

wackura

Your response to his flippant remark is aproximately ten times in length; he wins.

SpicyMikey

Perception does seem to lag reality. In some cases 10 years!

wackura

I've driven the Pontiac G6, the interior is very plastic. Not the smooth shiny kind of the TSX' center console, the kind of plastic kid's toys and office utilities are made of. It's a clunky and poorly thought out car compared to the TSX. It's 2/3rds price is well justified.

TMQ

No matter what photochop you do, an ugly grille is an ugly grille.

Pontiac - it's for a different crowd. Most Acura buyers would never, ever, ever, consider a Pontiac. Not from someone who invented the Aztek.

Now, you'll say, never say never. yeah, with that bucktooth signature grille, I say, never thought an Acura could be this ugly.

bgriffin

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Most cars today are very reliable. I think its a safe bet to buy an Acura, GM product, or anything today. Now to get back on topic. I keep looking at the '09 TSX pics, and I'm starting to like it. I think its about time to trade in my '04. I can't wait to see and drive one.