can we see your jack and spare tire configs PLEASE/

12 got an airpump, not acceptable. need to piece together something until I can do a total change.

can any 2011 guys take some pics back there PRETTY PLEASE.

jack tools spare size of spare etc.

TIA.

 

There might even be somebody like me who prefers the extra storage of the '12. Are you in a big metro area that you could find somebody willing to swap? It might be worth posting in the black market forum as a FT.

 

ill try it.......

 

As much as I like having that extra hidden cargo space, I also would prefer a spare (a little extra weight in the rear might help the handling, too.)

Honda decided to do some cost cutting and remove the spare and market it as "more cargo space." But the 2011 and 2012 bodies are identical. My delear is in the process of removing the cargo compartment (it's just styrofoam, polyester and plastic batting, and a felt lined tray), and installing the 2011 spare tire and jack. The nut that's attached to the body to hold the spare in place is still there under the current cargo bin (Honda wouldn't go to the expense of retooling just to change the sheet metal.)

We took a look at a 2011 TSX sedan on the lot and it's just the tire and a tray with tools and the jack. Maybe head over to your dealership and take a look at a 2011.

 

I'm another 2012 Wagon owner here who would have preferred a spare. I was too slow to decide and by the time I was ready, the dealer was out of 2011s. Checking the Acura website, I see a spare is available from the dealer for $800. Umm... I'll live with the compressor for a while.

We 2012 wagon owners, however, do get an extra power port at the back.

 

That's what my dealer is working with, but instead of the full kit (part # 06421-TL7-315ZA) they think you can get away with ordering the individual parts and eliminate the cover assembly (part # 84523-TL4-G22ZA) and the floor bucket (part # 84529-TL4-A01ZA.) You can probably utilize the existing cover assembly and also just forgo the floor bucket (it's pretty shallow and not that useful, imho, and it's almost $200 retail.)

That will cut $379 off the list price. Plus you can most likely get the dealer to discount it overall (and especially if you just bought the car from them; ask for a favor and try to get at cost.) And if you want the whole kit, you still should be able to do better than the $800 list (again, ask for the dealer cost as a new buyer favor.)

 

Turning Japanese, please let us know what you end up doing and spending with the "spare kit lite" you described. As a '12 owner, I too wish I had the spare. Despite living in an urban area, we take the car on road trips out west at least once a year and I would like having the piece of mind of a spare.

 

 

Junkyard spacesaver spare from a totaled late model Accord and a bottle jack from Harborfreight. Since the attachment point is still there, you should be able to trim the foam insert from the Accord to fit into the well as well (get it?)

If you need it, then the bottle jack is a much better tool than the dangerous jacks that come with our cars.

 

I will. In addition, you keep the pump and goop kit and so then you have both options in case of tire failure (goop and pump for a basic puncture and an actual spare tire for sidewall failure or other issue, etc..)

Yeah, since the attachment point is there (no way would Honda re-tool just for the 2012 model; they simply filled in the space with a molded cargo compartment), one has a lot of flexibility to make all sorts of custom set ups. Once the molded compartment and styrofoam is removed, then you're left with the well. You can get the whole kit and turn it onto a replica of the 2011 model, or get parts from the kit and make it up yourself. Or mix them up and/or also get stuff from elsewhere, like you mention. Since the well and the attachment point is all the same, it's just a question of how you want to configure the space.

 

Just to add: the way it's been reconfigured by Honda (the well and attachment point remained the same, they simply removed the wheel and tire and put in a cargo box), it appears you can conceivably pull out the cargo box and replace it with the whole kit/parts of the kit/or what ceb suggested at anytime. So if you drive around locally you can keep the cargo box intact and then just switch out to the spare kit setup when taking a road trip to more remote places. Then put the cargo box setup back in when you need it and don't need the spare wheel/tire set up.

 

so here is a pic of the whole kit......

which numbers can be eliminated??? reuse what we have;

TIA

 

It depends on what your goal is. If you want a fully integrated OE solution, then you need everything including stickers 4 and 5 and the tire valve (3) unless your spare already comes assembled.

If you are looking for an OE-like solution but don't care if it looks super nice, the you need the OE wheel assembly, the washer and wingnut, the jack and the lug wrench.

If you are looking for a solution that works (possibly better than OE), looks OE once the trunk mat is closed, then you can use the wheel, jack and wrench from a wrecked Accord. You can trim the styrofoam from the Accord trunk to fit the well of the TSX wagon to keep things from rattling and to give that OE look - or just use an Accord wheel with the bottle jack and wrench from Harborfreight or you other favorite tool/car store.

Let's face it. How often to we lift the lid of the trunk mat to look in there? Do you really care if it looks OE?

 

Agreed.

What kind and size spare will work? There are tons of wrecks but what's correct for us?

 

Don't forget that if you get the OEM kit, that you also need the tire itself (#42751-BRI-095.)

I agree that a bottle jack is something to consider since mfg's jacks are often useless and can be dangerous.

I'll probably be going with both the OEM spare wheel disc (#42700-TA0-A51) and the tire (#42751-BRI-095) unless a Honda spare can be found easily. I'll also get the top tray (which is the cargo tray in the 2011 model) to at least have some extra storage over the spare tire well (and help reduce noise.) The jack I'll get from Harborfreight and also use my own tools, including a better lug wrench. I can also store the original compressor and goop in there with the tire/wheel disc.

This way I'll be close to OEM. I'll also keep the original deep storage tray (the current 2012 version) and swap out when I want storage space but don't care about having the spare.

The big issue I think will be making certain there's enough sound deadening. A bare steel well might add a lot of noise in a wagon (the TSX sedan has the trunk so it's less of a noise issue.) I plan to use a lot of Dynamat that I'll cut and install over any exposed areas and bare metal.

 

Be careful with Dynomat as more is not always better.

It depends on the type of noise that you are encountering.

Much of the noise will be "panel buzz" that can be taken care of by a small (6 inch or so) square of product. External noises like road noise is where a big sheet of Dynamat will work.

 

That's more what I'm concerned about, road noise. With a bare well and the depth of the well plus the cavern-like space in the wagon, I'm thinking there might end up being more road noise. Anyway, I have some sheets leftover from another application and so I'll just play around with it and see if it helps or not.

 

Borrow a SPL (sound pressure level) meter and do some before and after testing before you add Dynamat. It might not be needed and may add unnecessary weight.

 

so i got a jack cheap off ebay. from a TL.

the lug wrench fits the lugs and the jack looks like it never been used.

but WTF is the thing with the eyelet and threaded end???

am I missing anything else?



TIA

Rob

 

Looks like a tow hook

 

Check out car-part.com for used parts. I got a spare wheel, jack, and trunk liner for my Jetta there

 

i have been looking at car-part in search of a wagon LOLZ

but I did get the jack above. I am going to go local for the spare.

and then work it from there.