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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by phee
alright rich. i think you should break down exactly what the benefits of this harness are.
Overview
The swap module allows for the interfacing of a 6 speed manual transmission with a stock 5 speed automatic transmission computer from the TL, Odyssey and CL. This allows for automatic to manual conversions and for engine swaps.

Without the module the following feature will not work.
-VTEC
-Full rev limit
-Speedo
-Reverse lock out
-Reverse light
-Passing inspection due to CEL

The advantage over using the 03 CL 6 speed ECU.
-You keep your stock ECU.
-No need to change engine harness
-No need for expensive cam gears and sensors
-No need to tow your car to dealer to immobilizer programming
-No need to tear apart interior to change body harness
-Allow you to use TL and Accord 6 speed which are more plentiful and have less mileage.
-No CEL

Basically you can save lots of money using the harness and everything is simplified.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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Wish this was available 2.5 years ago


As for the 99 to 00-03 TL-P motor, Im not sure of the exact differences. The intake is the main difference, Stuff like the crank position sensor is the same.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
Overview
The swap module allows for the interfacing of a 6 speed manual transmission with a stock 5 speed automatic transmission computer from the TL, Odyssey and CL. This allows for automatic to manual conversions and for engine swaps.

Without the module the following feature will not work.
-VTEC
-Full rev limit
-Speedo
-Reverse lock out
-Reverse light
-Passing inspection due to CEL

The advantage over using the 03 CL 6 speed ECU.
-You keep your stock ECU.
-No need to change engine harness
-No need for expensive cam gears and sensors
-No need to tow your car to dealer to immobilizer programming
-No need to tear apart interior to change body harness
-Allow you to use TL and Accord 6 speed which are more plentiful and have less mileage.
-No CEL

Basically you can save lots of money using the harness and everything is simplified.


this makes a 6 speed swap so much more reasonable for joe shmoe. keep up the good work and keep us updated.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tegkid


this makes a 6 speed swap so much more reasonable for joe shmoe. keep up the good work and keep us updated.
this joe shmoe is very happy

great work Richie v6
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Do you have to remove the VSA?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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i think so but with the manual trans. depending on which 1 you go with its going to have LSD
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
Overview
The swap module allows for the interfacing of a 6 speed manual transmission with a stock 5 speed automatic transmission computer from the TL, Odyssey and CL. This allows for automatic to manual conversions and for engine swaps.

Without the module the following feature will not work.
-VTEC
-Full rev limit
-Speedo
-Reverse lock out
-Reverse light
-Passing inspection due to CEL

The advantage over using the 03 CL 6 speed ECU.
-You keep your stock ECU.
-No need to change engine harness
-No need for expensive cam gears and sensors
-No need to tow your car to dealer to immobilizer programming
-No need to tear apart interior to change body harness
-Allow you to use TL and Accord 6 speed which are more plentiful and have less mileage.
-No CEL

Basically you can save lots of money using the harness and everything is simplified.
perfect!. now ask specific questions that you have for us.
can a mod move this to the first post?
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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richie is the man! this is exciting news..
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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this swap is looking more and more like me....good work man!
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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So do 99 guys who want the module need to buy the ecu from the 00-03?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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so is this actually official.
How many have had this installed with the type s ECU and 6 speed.
For how long ??
Is this module begin TESTED & TRUSTED = (No, power loss in comparable to true 6 speed)
No Clitches (i.e true P N P). ???

sounds very promising..........
Time for a 6 speed swap then.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JakerfTL
So do 99 guys who want the module need to buy the ecu from the 00-03?
No... As stated before, these modules trick the existing ECU into thinking there is an auto hooked up
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
No... As stated before, these modules trick the existing ECU into thinking there is an auto hooked up
Originally Posted by manafourme
Do you have to remove the VSA?
so since nobody that has really done it answered ??
i say fsttyms1, u have done this b4 , so ..... Did you have to remove the VSA when u did ur swap ?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by poisx7
so since nobody that has really done it answered ??
i say fsttyms1, u have done this b4 , so ..... Did you have to remove the VSA when u did ur swap ?
I did because i used the CLS ECU. That motor and trans setup doesnt have it. Im sure you can keep it with the modules, but it may not work the same (and the motor may stall out ???? (no torque converter/auto trans to keep the motor running)???
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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i was thinkin... is the passanger side parking mirror not going to work anymore?
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by manafourme
Do you have to remove the VSA?
Not sure about this one, I have the set up runing on a Accord right now and the ECU doesn't really miss it.

Originally Posted by abptltypes02
i think so but with the manual trans. depending on which 1 you go with its going to have LSD
All the Acura 6 speeds have LSD the Honda ones do not.

Originally Posted by JakerfTL
So do 99 guys who want the module need to buy the ecu from the 00-03?
Not sure about this one yet the 99 ecu is a beast I haven't messed with yet. Hopefully someone is willing to test it.


Originally Posted by poisx7
so is this actually official.
How many have had this installed with the type s ECU and 6 speed.
For how long ??
Is this module begin TESTED & TRUSTED = (No, power loss in comparable to true 6 speed)
No Clitches (i.e true P N P). ???

sounds very promising..........
Time for a 6 speed swap then.
As of right now only me there are a few running the Odyssey ECU. There are about 4 cars waiting for this module once it comes out we will know for sure.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I'm willing to test out the module for the 99 my swap is in progress already. I'd be more than willing to work something out with you
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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So if this gets worked out and works what would the total be for a whole manual conversion now
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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$99.99
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackuraTL
So if this gets worked out and works what would the total be for a whole manual conversion now
There is NO set #. Not every one is going to get the same price on parts. Some find good deals, some pull the parts themselves from the salvage yards, some buy new. As demand goes up so do prices.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Well yeah but for one right now without this module thing isnt it like a couple grand
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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research. there are 2 6mt swaps in the first page of the second gen section BOTH with parts list and mine even has prices
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:40 AM
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Everything is working with the type-s ecu.



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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackuraTL
So if this gets worked out and works what would the total be for a whole manual conversion now
The harness will run about $500 and I charge $1000 labor for the complete swap. The price of the parts depends on how hard you search.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackuraTL
Well yeah but for one right now without this module thing isnt it like a couple grand
Its a couple grand for just the parts even if you use module. The module will save you from having to buy a different motor/ecu/wiring harnesses and make life a lot easier.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Sweet Good deal Richie!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
Everything is working with the type-s ecu.



Is this harness is going to have a plug of some sort?
Splicing into the orig harness is how it will have to be installed?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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I would imagine its going to be plug and play, no?

Nice work Richie!
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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good old rich
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Trans gave up on my 2003 tlp. How is the module test going?
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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working with the tl-s and ody ecu.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by twistedwedge
I would imagine its going to be plug and play, no?

Nice work Richie!
I do plan on offering a complete engine harness for those that do not want to modify their own. Or doing it as a service.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 03:01 AM
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Everything is working fine the first module/harness shipped out today to Paul he will install it in Nates car. Hopefully it is problem free and I can start mass producing these. So far it is working fine on the TL-s and Odyssey ECU. Next I will work on something for the 4 speed automatic transmissions.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
I do plan on offering a complete engine harness for those that do not want to modify their own. Or doing it as a service.
Can you elaborate a little more on what needs to de done in order to install this harness? Or posible post the installation procedure.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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lovely.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Im bringing this thread back, and I really wanna know the installation process. Does it just plug right into the ECU or is there splicing involved???

-Mark
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Wow

This is awesome! I wish Acura would have produced the TL with an optional 6spd manual like they did with the CL. In any case, thank God for techies like RichieV6, fatyms, and others who are making it an aftermarket possibility! I'm sick and tired of my automatic transmission..and I miss driving a stick-shift car. The economy isn't the friendliest right now, but as SOON as I have the money togther to do the swap, it will be done.
RichieV6 - you said you'd charge $1500 for the module and the labor. What state do you live in, and how long does it take to complete the swap?
And is there anyone else who would consider taking the swap job?
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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^ Richie is in IL.

Richie and I could recommend someone to you if you don't plan on driving up to IL.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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if you wanna drive to atlanta, i can do it for cheaper than that
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Richie as an awesome guy...met him at the Illinois meet Saturday...
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