Does anyone have experience with this brake pad ? Putting on some EBC slotted and looking for a decent brake pad - a couple of people recommended this, but don't have a tl type s with legend calipers...

 

FYI - Performance friction is the brand name ...

http://www.performancefriction.com/m...rake-pads.aspx

 

id stick with EBC products when using their rotors, Red Stuff pads are very good pads. hawk hps are also good.

 

get the EBC Green Stuff or EBC Ultimax pads

 

What would have less brake dust of the 2 ?

 

have you heard of ziners complaining about a poor fit on the ebc pads in the caliper ??

 

ebc ultimax will dust more than green stuff, and green stuff will dust more than red stuff. red stuff is a low dust pad.

iv never had any fitment problems with red stuff pads.

 

how to avoid brake dust:
wash rims on both sides
apply 2-3 coats SYNTHETIC car wax (100f higher melt temp than carnuba wax)
most of the stuff will slide right past, what does stick wipes/rinses off or mild soap every few weeks

the red and green pads are different temp/type use pads- see ebc website for their descriptions
matched maker pads and rotors are better- when available

use TL pads and TL rotors with your new legend calipers~
make sure the arrow, Forward ----> on the rotor center hub points to the front of car on install
they are directional
follow ebc's sites instructions on pad bedding

 

Sounds good ! Just an FYI - I currently have a sample of an R/D product for wheel protectant. I'm sure everyone is familiar with Rain X and Rain X protectant at your local car wash for your car's entire surface. Well, Ecolab chemical has just released rain x for wheels.. I will be doing a demo with it online at a few conveyorized car wash tunnels to see how it works.. Hopefully they will bottle it and sell it on the shelves for the people that like to wash their whip at home. This should be a great product and from what I'm being told - brake dust will not adhere to the wheels.. Well the proof is in the pudding on that, and we will see.

The only reason i mention that is because of the above comment about waxing the wheels to keep the brake dust down.

Thanks for all the input - I will be matching the red stuff with the ebc slotted rotors.

Oh, by the way - I have the Legend calipers on the car now, and even with the crappy oem pads/rotors - I notice a difference Extremely responsive !! Every TL owner should do this upgrade, and I got the Legend Calipers cheaper than i could get the TL calipers. What a no brainer !

 

I saw the wheel treatment avail at a local car wash, but was concerned about the `wax` getting all over my rotors too
it should burn right off with a few brake uses,,,,,right?

but how can it do that great a job reaching the inner part of the rim?,,where brake dust starts--without saturating the pads and entire area with water and mix

I dont frequent car washes so I must ask our expert!!

does everyone understand brake dust is a normal thing?
the pads create friction which is turned into heat-
when pads get hot they shed micro sized scorching hot bits of material ,,which attaches to the first available area..your rims
Then it acts like an adhesive for all the other pad dust and road dust

will be interested in road test of rainx--please keep us advised

 

tomf do the ABS test I described before- never trust the shop to have done it

 

Note- parts stores are actually happy to get TL calipers back as cores to rebuild-- instead of legends
there is a greater market for TL calipers than some car from 1995 lol

 

I have used Hawk brake pads in my TL for 4 years. They are excellent. Just be really, really careful how you break them in...follow the hawk instructions exactly !

 

welcome to the forum!

while hawks are excellent,, they are major dust makers- see above post on reducing dust adhesion to the rims
other brands have been found to work far better on specific rotors-
specifically RacingBrake, Rotora and EBC all make pads designed/mated to their rotor mettalury specs
and will outstop outlast and outperform a set of HPS on those rotors

I ran Hawk HPS with RB slotted rotors for 5kmiles on my 01,
swapped them for ET300 when racingbrake created their own pads, the
rotor hardness was eating other makers pads!!

the HPS are back on my car now while a new set of RB pads get ordered and installed on RB rotors..ran them down to nothin!! 1MM right side pads 2mm left side,,
2mm is absolute MIN but ooops--no rotor damage yeah!

there is a huge stopping power differance between RB and hawk,,and hps are not the winner~

hawks instructions are ok but are abbreviated for space on the box-their website has more info.
and one of our ~brake guru~ sponoring vendors is MrHeelToe www.heeltoeauto.com
his tech info comes from real life auto-x honda racing, road racing, Los Angeles commute use, and input from many customers

His brake pad and rotor bedding method is specific to RB heavy duty bedding needs
but works for many brands
Its based on the best parts of everyone else's methods

I do agree- pad bedding is critical for low noise, best grip and longest pad life

as a new member, have a scroll down the main thread list for gen2, and the special thread sections performance or problems..etc
Amazing amounts of info there

Here is our DIY master list for you too
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/new-official-2nd-gen-tl-diy-thread-706083/

something to consider for better braking is the front calipers off a 95 Legend LS-C
they are dual pistons instead of 1, makes more pad surface contact pressure and
has entra bracing for less outer pad flex under heavy braking
Even with basic brakes- it helps the car stop better, and the legend calipers cost less than rebuilt TL calipers if you are in need anyway
plus the parts store is happy to get the TL cores!- they can sell them to a larger market of newer cars,, than some stupid ol 95 no one drives anymore~ good for us!!