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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 12:25 AM
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Trannys slippin'!!!

My tranny has been acting up a bit lately. First it was minute differences in the way it shifted gears. But last night, while driving casually, the RPM's went from 1.5 to 4.5. I let go of the throttle, and it went back to normal.
While driving home from school tonight the same thing happened. Too bad. I was hoping it wasnt going to happen to me. When you throw down almost 40k you expect more. I love this cars looks and performance, but its build quality is lacking. I hope it holds up a few more days until the finals. wish me luck
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Old Jul 31, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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Sorry to hear about that, i hope it doesnt happen to me, good luck with it tho.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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Re: Trannys slippin'!!!

Originally posted by Yemeni TL-S
My tranny has been acting up a bit lately. First it was minute differences in the way it shifted gears. But last night, while driving casually, the RPM's went from 1.5 to 4.5. I let go of the throttle, and it went back to normal.
Unfortunatly, this sounds familiar. You should bring it in and have it checked out.

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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by Yemeni TL-S
When you throw down almost 40k you expect more. I love this cars looks and performance, but its build quality is lacking.

It could have been worse.... you could have bought a BMW for even more money with less power/features and been in the shop for electrical and other issues. The quality on the TL-S as far as problem percentages go, are ahead of cars like BMW. Lexus, however, has Acura beat.

Anyway, sorry to hear of the problems. Hopefully you'll get it resolved quickly and painlessly....
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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Re: Re: Trannys slippin'!!!

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It could have been worse.... you could have bought a BMW for even more money with less power/features and been in the shop for electrical and other issues. The quality on the TL-S as far as problem percentages go, are ahead of cars like BMW. Lexus, however, has Acura beat.

Anyway, sorry to hear of the problems. Hopefully you'll get it resolved quickly and painlessly....
I have to disagree Juniorbean...this sounds like something an Acura Rep would say...the point is he DIDN'T buy a BMW...he bought an Acura...and it has an issue which Acura chooses to ignore. The reliability of a BMW is irrelevant in this case. The issue is that part of the 'value' of the Acura is its reliability. Because the reliability has been downgraded, the 'value' has been diminished...as well as the reputation of Acura, but that is their own fault because of how the consumer is being inconsistently treated relative to a resolution.

I understand that ALL cars have issues to varying degrees...and that ALL manufacturers will have a percentage of major component failures (engine or transmission)...but this rate of failure is not commensurate with a manufacturer with a hallmark reputation of reliability...unless we accept it as such.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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I have to disagree Juniorbean...this sounds like something an Acura Rep would say...the point is he DIDN'T buy a BMW...he bought an Acura...and it has an issue which Acura chooses to ignore. The reliability of a BMW is irrelevant in this case. The issue is that part of the 'value' of the Acura is its reliability. Because the reliability has been downgraded, the 'value' has been diminished...as well as the reputation of Acura, but that is their own fault because of how the consumer is being inconsistently treated relative to a resolution.

I understand that ALL cars have issues to varying degrees...and that ALL manufacturers will have a percentage of major component failures (engine or transmission)...but this rate of failure is not commensurate with a manufacturer with a hallmark reputation of reliability...unless we accept it as such.
Well, I agree with you there... he did not buy a BMW. My point was not to ignore the Acura issue, rather to squash the "I paid $xx,xxx for this car and it should never break debate. Like you said... every car has it's issues.

I don't think that the reputation of Acura has been tarnished much at all. I mean, on our little board, of course it has, but if you talked to any one of the hundred of thousands of new TL owners they would most likely not even know about tranny issues.... just like you and I don't know about all of the issues with other cars. Acura's numbers are around 1-2% last I saw (early 2002) which are at the industry standard, with the #1 company (can't remember who now) not much ahead as far as percentage goes. My point is the big picture. I know that the big picture does not help those who have tranny problems, but from what I've seen, Acura has fixed and / or replaced the trannys on all (or just about all) problems that popped up on the board.... so they are addressing it as it occurs, which is what all auto manufacturers do. If the problem is say 2% and they sell 100,000 cars... do you really think they'll recall or repair 100k cars b/c 200 MAY have problems? They won't.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Trannys slippin'!!!

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Acura's numbers are around 1-2% last I saw (early 2002) which are at the industry standard, with the #1 company (can't remember who now) not much ahead as far as percentage goes.
Some of us know for sure that has changed considerably...can' t reveal my source though...
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Some of us know for sure that has changed considerably...can' t reveal my source though...
LOL... touche
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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What kind of a comparison was that? Acura to BMW in terms of quality? I am laughing my ass off. Bimmers have never been famous about quality. Good, but not great, not anywhere near the other manufacturers in its class. I've had more problems with my M3 during a three year lease than I had with my wife's Jeep during a three year lease, and that says a lot. Bimmers have something else that's pretty hard to com by -- outstanding handling, driving composure, razor-sharp steering, and excellent braking (believe me, I am not just quoting). But quality? I don't think so.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Deniska
What kind of a comparison was that? Acura to BMW in terms of quality? I am laughing my ass off. Bimmers have never been famous about quality. Good, but not great, not anywhere near the other manufacturers in its class. I've had more problems with my M3 during a three year lease than I had with my wife's Jeep during a three year lease, and that says a lot. Bimmers have something else that's pretty hard to com by -- outstanding handling, driving composure, razor-sharp steering, and excellent braking (believe me, I am not just quoting). But quality? I don't think so.
Right...it's like you don't buy a Rolex to own an accurate time piece...
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by Deniska
What kind of a comparison was that? Acura to BMW in terms of quality? I am laughing my ass off. Bimmers have never been famous about quality. Good, but not great, not anywhere near the other manufacturers in its class. I've had more problems with my M3 during a three year lease than I had with my wife's Jeep during a three year lease, and that says a lot. Bimmers have something else that's pretty hard to com by -- outstanding handling, driving composure, razor-sharp steering, and excellent braking (believe me, I am not just quoting). But quality? I don't think so.
There's this thing called reading. If you read all of the posts you would realize that I was not comparing BMW reliability to Acura's... I was comparing BMW's price to Acura's. Everytime someone has a problem with their TL/TL-S on here, almost always it's followed up with, "I spent $xx,xxx on this car and it should never break... next time I'll spend a little more and get a BMW". Stick around a while... you'll see what I mean.....
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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On a side note, my 02' I bought in Jan has over 7000 miles now. I have 0 problems with the car or the tranny. I have checked the fluid and its still a pink color. I plan to install a tranny cooler this weekend if I have time, if not soon.

I get on my car hard at least once a week, but usually I am nice and the highest it sees is 3500rpms. I drive in rush hour traffic every morning and evening and the tranny does alot of shifting. But so far its been fine.

Most of the problems with this tranny occur due to heat, and abuse.

We know people with over 50k on the car no problems.

Remember most people on these forums abuse the heck out of there cars compared to people that are not.
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS

Most of the problems with this tranny occur due to heat, and abuse.

You are sooooooo wrong about that...but, nice try...
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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You are sooooooo wrong about that...but, nice try...
Oh I am so wrong, whatever dude. There are many other trannies that are weak and still going as well. Like I said above, its due to HEAT which is a FACT, and abuse creates HEAT.
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS


Oh I am so wrong, whatever dude. There are many other trannies that are weak and still going as well. Like I said above, its due to HEAT which is a FACT, and abuse creates HEAT.
You obviously have not been reading all of these threads...there are many more reported failures then you see posted here...and buddy, I drive like a l'il ol' lady...and I have been driving for over 30 years...so it's not abuse.

Good luck! I hope it doesn't happen to you 'dude'.
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