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Old 01-11-2013, 03:49 PM
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Cant wait to get the block machined and get this put together.
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i've always wondered why there never was an ecu flash for 2g tl. was the software in some sort of alien language?
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Hope you do that build that was discussed. :-)

Btw, the 4g TL pistons are forged aluminum. Don't be afraid of the spray.
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Originally Posted by pickler
i've always wondered why there never was an ecu flash for 2g tl. was the software in some sort of alien language?
Because the prom its on cant be rewritten to. Simply put you cant reprogram/flash it. We are screwed.

Unless that is you get crafty like yungone501
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Originally Posted by yungone501
Hope you do that build that was discussed. :-)

Btw, the 4g TL pistons are forged aluminum. Don't be afraid of the spray.
I fully intend on it, thank you. Now i need to start looking for parts

Nice.
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I started gasket matching/porting and polishing the heads and lower intake runners, intake mani. While the openings all seem to be the same size in dia, they dont match up anywhere near properly. Opening them up some and gasket matching them should drastically help flow.

You can see here how much of a difference there is between the gasket and the opening. Each opening is different showing that there is Quite a variance in matching up (can be seen when the pieces are held together and looked down that they dont match perfectly, not shown).




Here is one that i started to open up and matching



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There is LOTS of work to go.
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You got a Bridgeport in your garage??
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You got a Bridgeport in your garage??
I wish, but No, why?
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Nice work I had the same thing done to my runners when I had Paul make me a set. It's one of the few things I noticed when I put it on. It makes the car pull hard up top and feels like it far me some torque down low
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I wish, but No, why?
What's the endmill in?
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Originally Posted by MilwaukeeDave
What's the endmill in?
Something like this

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Nice work I had the same thing done to my runners when I had Paul make me a set. It's one of the few things I noticed when I put it on. It makes the car pull hard up top and feels like it far me some torque down low
I can see why. Using the Bore gauge, So far i have opened them up 0.080 or 2mm over the stock size in the runners. Ill open the heads up and the upper intake. It should really let it breath. Ill do the same on the exhaust side of the heads when ready.


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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I can see why. Using the Bore gauge, So far i have opened them up 0.080 or 2mm over the stock size in the runners. Ill open the heads up and the upper intake. It should really let it breath. Ill do the same on the exhaust side of the heads when ready.


Looks good are you going to use that intake manifold on your new engine. If not is it worth it to you to spend the time working on it? only curious
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Damn. Lol once I get mine I'll have a project at work. I got a nice endmill in my box now I could use.
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Originally Posted by MilwaukeeDave
Damn. Lol once I get mine I'll have a project at work. I got a nice endmill in my box now I could use.
I have a set of tl-p ones you could work with. Send me a pm if you want them
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Originally Posted by Stephen00TL
Looks good are you going to use that intake manifold on your new engine. If not is it worth it to you to spend the time working on it? only curious
I wouldnt be doing it if i wasnt going to use them lol. Once done i need to figure out which intake mani im going to use.
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Damn. Lol once I get mine I'll have a project at work. I got a nice endmill in my box now I could use.
6mt swap first IMO
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Originally Posted by i_love_cars
6mt swap first IMO
Wish I could but that's gotta be on my own time. Port and polish job easy to do at work but hard to sneak in a 6 speed swap lol.
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Wish I could but that's gotta be on my own time. Port and polish job easy to do at work but hard to sneak in a 6 speed swap lol.
Put a blanket over it, no one will see it.
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6mt swap first IMO
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Starting to open the heads up. As seen by looking thru the runner into the head you can see the red marking there is a lot to remove there as well now. Once removed ill fine tune the ports and heads by polishing them and making sure every thing matches exactly





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Put a blanket over it, no one will see it.
In that case, what are the best points to use to lift a TL using an overhead crane?!?
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Looks like its coming along great. I need to port and polish the heads once I get the new motor as well since I already have ported and polished runners. With the 09 intake manifold, larger throttle body, and a 4" intake I should be getting a lot of air into the motor.
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Ok I swear I've searched 3 parts sites and can't find it so please be nice when I ask this: is there a gasket from the lower runners to the heads or does it just bolt up?? I've searched intake manifold, engine assembly, and every category seeming related and can't find either the lower runners (just curious about price) or if there's a gasket.
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Originally Posted by MilwaukeeDave
Ok I swear I've searched 3 parts sites and can't find it so please be nice when I ask this: is there a gasket from the lower runners to the heads or does it just bolt up?? I've searched intake manifold, engine assembly, and every category seeming related and can't find either the lower runners (just curious about price) or if there's a gasket.
There is a gasket I have the part number somewhere let m find it. It goes between the runners and the heads

Here you go, 17055-P8E-A01 & 17065-P8E-A01

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Kris would you wanted ports and polish my lower runner for me? I have extra set of Type-S lower runner waiting to be PnP PM'

Always love to see you do new stuff to your TL

Maybe sometime in future i'm going find someone to do some engine work for me ( Kris, Paul, yungone501, 1foxbody, or etc..) I know alot about cars but, still noobie when come to internal of the engine
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Originally Posted by AznWay
Kris would you wanted ports and polish my lower runner for me? I have extra set of Type-S lower runner waiting to be PnP PM'

Always love to see you do new stuff to your TL

Maybe sometime in future i'm going find someone to do some engine work for me ( Kris, Paul, yungone501, 1foxbody, or etc..) I know alot about cars but, still noobie when come to internal of the engine
Do it even if kris can't get it done, find a shop to do it. It made a big difference when I put them on, of course I had the tl-p ones on to begin with though. I am a noob as well when it comes to internals of engines luckily I have a friend that can help me out.
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Originally Posted by MilwaukeeDave
Ok I swear I've searched 3 parts sites and can't find it so please be nice when I ask this: is there a gasket from the lower runners to the heads or does it just bolt up?? I've searched intake manifold, engine assembly, and every category seeming related and can't find either the lower runners (just curious about price) or if there's a gasket.
Its under fuel injectors

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Originally Posted by Stephen00TL
Do it even if kris can't get it done, find a shop to do it. It made a big difference when I put them on, of course I had the tl-p ones on to begin with though. I am a noob as well when it comes to internals of engines luckily I have a friend that can help me out.
TL-P and TL-S use the same lower Porting and polishing makes the difference. Wait till you open up the heads to match. (its done on my current motor and probably part of the reason my motor is as strong as it is)
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Still trying to decide if i want to deck my block while its at the machine shop or have the heads shaved. Im leaning towards the heads.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
TL-P and TL-S use the same lower Porting and polishing makes the difference. Wait till you open up the heads to match. (its done on my current motor and probably part of the reason my motor is as strong as it is)
There different look through Richard Parker's thread the type s ones are opened more from the factory. I have a picture somewhere I'll try and find it

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Still trying to decide if i want to deck my block while its at the machine shop or have the heads shaved. Im leaning towards the heads.
for higher compression right?
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There different look through Richard Parker's thread the type s ones are opened more from the factory. I have a picture somewhere I'll try and find it



for higher compression right?
Looking at acura parts, They have the same part number (1st 5 digits). Compared to My old TL-p ones laying in my garage, they are the exact size as the MDX ones im porting, which would be the same as the type-s ones as the 02 mdx and type-s have the exact same part number- all digits). The uppers between the 2 are different though.

Yes, to raise compression (also as to blueprint the engine, meaning everything is as close to perfect tolerance wise as possible)
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Humm. Thats odd, all 3 sets of mine measure 43-44mm with the variances in casting (with the exception of my mdx ones ive ported and polished which now measure 46mm
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Humm. Thats odd, all 3 sets of mine measure 43-44mm with the variances in casting (with the exception of my mdx ones ive ported and polished which now measure 46mm
Did you compare a set of type s runners. Maybe since the mdx was an suv they weren't worried about hp and just used the one from the tl-p.
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Did you compare a set of type s runners. Maybe since the mdx was an suv they weren't worried about hp and just used the one from the tl-p.
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Looking at acura parts, They have the same part number (1st 5 digits). Compared to My old TL-p ones laying in my garage, they are the exact size as the MDX ones im porting, which would be the same as the type-s ones, as the 02 mdx and type-s have the exact same part number- all digits). The uppers between the 2 are different though.
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MDX and Type-s are the exact same. (same part number 17050-PGE-A01) The Upper intake main, lower mani, and heads are the same, even the blocks are the same as well.
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