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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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Thumbs up noob going to replace his timing belt

Ok guys since im ballin' on a budget I have decided that I am going to try and replace my timing belt and water pump myself with my car @120,000Mi

I am armed with:
a video from eric the car guy on how to do it (the one where he does the timing belt for a Honda Accord v6)
One lift
A torque wrench
This thread (https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/diy-timing-belt-695821/)
and alot of fear

and ok so before i undergo this does anyone know what specific parts i will be needing?

and should I look into adjusting my valves as well?
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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DONT....

timing belt is not something to play around with....

either that or your not a noob....LOL....

either way good luck.....
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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You probably should adjust your valves.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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Doint T-Job + Valve Job is a Must! its so easy without the Timing Belt on But! As "swoosh" point out if anything goes wrong say bye bye to Engine or Say Hello to a Very costly Repairs.

Dont Mess with it if you arent Sure about doing It.
It took me 1 day to complete the job, But taking my Time to do it right. lol seems alot of time but It was my First Timer. Next T-Job im Confident to complete it in less than 15 hours.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Yea same here. My first time on my car i took a lot of time. When I did the 105k on my sisters accord, including valve adjustment, it took me 3-4 hours. Slight experience is everything. Just be careful and patient and youll be fine. Never feel over cautious.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
Doint T-Job + Valve Job is a Must! its so easy without the Timing Belt on But! As "swoosh" point out if anything goes wrong say bye bye to Engine or Say Hello to a Very costly Repairs.

Dont Mess with it if you arent Sure about doing It.
It took me 1 day to complete the job, But taking my Time to do it right. lol seems alot of time but It was my First Timer. Next T-Job im Confident to complete it in less than 15 hours.
Really? Lets tell him not to change his oil while we are at it. ITS NOT hard. If you take your time and do it like you should its easy. You could mess up a oil change just as easy by missing the rubber oil filter gasket stuck on the housing.

1 day? 15 hours? First time i did it was 4 hours. Dont take this personally, but what where you doing for 1 day to remove a belt? 1 bolt out time for a drink? 2nd bolt out time to run to taco bell? 3rd bolt grab the yellow pages for escorts
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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hahahaha
Nope I took my Time, Bought a Pizza, I Have 2 Cars soo I wasnt rushing Anything...

For me Changing the T-Belt was 10 times harder than Adjusting the Valves. Not becouse it was Hard or Complicated, Mostly becouse I have little Tools and the Space to do the Work is Incredibly Small... Also I didnt have the Original Battery Holder so to release the T-Belt Tensioner Presion was a real PITA to do... I since then boughted new set of tools and the Battery Holder so 15 hours is just for Fun perhaps the Job could be done in much less but I dunno, Next T-Job is due for another 30K well see.

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 01:03 AM
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Dude if you have the Eric the Car Guy video, you're set. Just watch the video in its entirety first, and then go through it as you're doing it.

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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timing belt and water pump job is not hard, i had more trouble replacing that blasted rear motor mount than this. Basically if you use common sense and dont rotate the crank or cam gears, make sure the slack is in the right place you cant screw it up. Eric the car guy is awesome, his videos are great, follow that and your set.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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hahahaha
Nope I took my Time, Bought a Pizza, I Have 2 Cars soo I wasnt rushing Anything...

For me Changing the T-Belt was 10 times harder than Adjusting the Valves. Not becouse it was Hard or Complicated, Mostly becouse I have little Tools and the Space to do the Work is Incredibly Small... Also I didnt have the Original Battery Holder so to release the T-Belt Tensioner Presion was a real PITA to do... I since then boughted new set of tools and the Battery Holder so 15 hours is just for Fun perhaps the Job could be done in much less but I dunno, Next T-Job is due for another 30K well see.
Ive never used the battery holder for the tensioner, and personally i dont know why its needed
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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agreed. if you want a vid, here it is:
http://www.ericthecarguy.com/tools.aspx?tid=3
(he does charge a fee for it only b/c it took him a long time to edit it up etc. 10$ vs a shitload of $$ is worth it imo)
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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lol thanks for all the tips and time estimates.
but im not a TOTAL noob its just that i feel like this is a big job and its the first time i will be able to do something like this.
and yea as the video says, just try to get the crank pulley off first, and he holds up a special tool. Is there anyway i can do that without it? and if not how much would that tool cost?
and i'm going to go out to autozone and oreillys to look at timing belts.
and should i be able to get the valve adjustment tools there aswell?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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You can rent the pulley tool at autozone/napa.

As for the timing belt. I personally would buy OEM from the dealer. Its only 35 bucks and not something i would shop around for the cheapest you can find
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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I agree, the OE t belt and water pump have definetly proven to be solid performers

aftermarket I would use Gates parts

get the tensioners and idlers from gates too

clean the intake manifolds egr ports and passage all the way thru the manifold length- carb cleaner or deep creep and a wire coat hanger

crank pulley nut is 187 foot pound torque
a strong breaker bar and using starter to click click click and blam!! the nut is loose
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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for valve adjust tools: parts stores will have a `GO / NO-GO` feeler guage in metric sizing,,
its the right tool for the job!
When it slips in and stops at the bump- its at spec!

get a TB to manifold gasket
new valve cover gaskets
ck the bolts for valve covers- may need new seals
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Since this is a noob posting, I may as well ask a noob related question. Why exactly do we need to remove the crank bolt? Does it prevent engine movement/allow engine movement/is it removed to allow access to a cover that needs to be removed? I have read thru the how-to's but not really understood why it needed to be removed.

I have considered doing this myself as well, or at least recruiting my mechanically inclined friend to help. Just wanted to have a better understanding about this one thing before I jump into it.

Thanks,

BTC
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BillThyCat
Since this is a noob posting, I may as well ask a noob related question. Why exactly do we need to remove the crank bolt? Does it prevent engine movement/allow engine movement/is it removed to allow access to a cover that needs to be removed? I have read thru the how-to's but not really understood why it needed to be removed.

I have considered doing this myself as well, or at least recruiting my mechanically inclined friend to help. Just wanted to have a better understanding about this one thing before I jump into it.

Thanks,

BTC
The crank pulley has to come off to remove the lower timing cover and replace the belt.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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Ah, ok, now I understand. Thanks for the info.

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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by webmastir
agreed. if you want a vid, here it is:
http://www.ericthecarguy.com/tools.aspx?tid=3
(he does charge a fee for it only b/c it took him a long time to edit it up etc. 10$ vs a shitload of $$ is worth it imo)
/cough search Acurazine for threads I started
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Ok guys, so I cant do the timing belt job any time soon. I have 123,052Mi on my car right now, and how long do you think I can make it last? I have heard people not replace theirs until 150K.
I have checked the belt for any wear and it seems to be in good shape and not have any uneven edges or wear.
Plus my drive is 40Mi round trip to school and back and its all highway and i only live 2.6Mi away from the highway. So that should help in it not lasting a little bit longer?
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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I dont know if the highway/city driving will make it last longer....

I did mine at 135K and it held up great until then....

that said...IN NO MEANS AM ASKING YOU TO PROCRASTINATE !!! DO IT ASAP BECAUSE IF IT BREAKS YOUR IN FOR EXPENSIVE REPAIRS
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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So I went to the dealership this weekend to get quotes:
60.00 - Timing belt
160.00 - Water Pump
810.00 - If I wanted them to do the job

Are these fair prices?
and MAN am I going to need to save up if i want them to do it. But in true Jalop form, and my mechanical mind I will surly try to do it myself with a friend that did his a while ago, so I will have a guiding hand.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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that's how much I paid for parts and I live in canada where parts are more expensive. Also i got someone to do the work for me, guy did it as a personal favour so he didn't want $ from me. But I got him a nice expensive bottle of alcohol. And i was quoted 8 hours at 110$/hour from every shop I called. And this guy did it in 3 hours with my help.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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buy the parts online and take it to the dealer for the install

I was quoted $1600 for the job....I bought all the parts online for $400 and they did the the labor for $500....all done for $900
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