updated stereo evaluation
#1
updated stereo evaluation
I have been completely satisfied with my stereo. the sound ranges have been just phenomenal. I guess my main emphasis is the high notes through the tweeters. Then my daughter comes along with her rap and bass oriented cd's to give the syster her test. The RL didn't pass. I might add in her car, 2000 TL, that she's given up her trunk to have this gigantic subwoofer and the amplifier to go with it. Her stereo really rocks...but her car has no high note quality.
It was painfull for me to hear the distortion of the RL speakers with a volume of even 20. If I do get into rap, I will definately have to change out the speakers.
Back to my music and the system sounds great and I am very happy....and my daughter is much happier back in her ride and her music.
It was painfull for me to hear the distortion of the RL speakers with a volume of even 20. If I do get into rap, I will definately have to change out the speakers.
Back to my music and the system sounds great and I am very happy....and my daughter is much happier back in her ride and her music.
#2
Originally Posted by larrynimmo
I have been completely satisfied with my stereo. the sound ranges have been just phenomenal. I guess my main emphasis is the high notes through the tweeters. Then my daughter comes along with her rap and bass oriented cd's to give the syster her test. The RL didn't pass. I might add in her car, 2000 TL, that she's given up her trunk to have this gigantic subwoofer and the amplifier to go with it. Her stereo really rocks...but her car has no high note quality.
It was painfull for me to hear the distortion of the RL speakers with a volume of even 20. If I do get into rap, I will definately have to change out the speakers.
Back to my music and the system sounds great and I am very happy....and my daughter is much happier back in her ride and her music.
It was painfull for me to hear the distortion of the RL speakers with a volume of even 20. If I do get into rap, I will definately have to change out the speakers.
Back to my music and the system sounds great and I am very happy....and my daughter is much happier back in her ride and her music.
Bose systems aren't generally known for good highs and lows. I like the ELS system in the TL better.
#4
Originally Posted by larrynimmo
i didn't have to, my daughter took over....set subwoofer to 100%, bass 100%, treble 0%.
I was out of my comfort zone. Couldn't wait to get back to my settings.
I was out of my comfort zone. Couldn't wait to get back to my settings.
I think our generations have very different definitions of music. The reason she may not hear enough highs or lows in the RL's Bose may be she no longer has that range of hearing!
Beethoven was deaf, and he did fine without richter scale bass!
#6
Originally Posted by gdevine
Setting the sub and bass to 100% would distort most any system that I can think of.
#7
The audio system in the RL is medioce at best; but it's ok for a factory installed system. Because of the integration of NAV and climate controls there's really no way to replace the factory system. On the other hand, the system can be significantly enhanced with replacement of the factory speakers. The main challenge when replacing the speakers is to undo all the frequency processing of the Bose design. Bose takes cheap paper cones and then boosts and decreases specific fequencies to make the speakers sound respectible. if you simply swap in good aftermarket speakers, the aftermarket speakers will sound shrill and harsh due to the previous overprocessing of the Bose design.
One possible solution I am considering is this module made by Alpine - Look here: http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=D . This module claims to undo all the frequency processing of a factory system. From the Alpine, you would install aftermarket amps, bypassing the Bose amp located in the right corner of the trunk behind the fabric panel.
I will be replacing the speakers in my RL probably with the Polk Momo 6.5" components that I took out of my TL. Not sure what sub solution I will go with. I dont want to give up as much trunk space as I did in my TL so I will either go with a single 12" solobaric enclosure or some sort of free air under the back shelf. I am interested in hearing from anyone else that has done audio mods on the RL. Unfortunately with so few RLs sold, there are even less people that have been tinkering with the audio.
One possible solution I am considering is this module made by Alpine - Look here: http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=D . This module claims to undo all the frequency processing of a factory system. From the Alpine, you would install aftermarket amps, bypassing the Bose amp located in the right corner of the trunk behind the fabric panel.
I will be replacing the speakers in my RL probably with the Polk Momo 6.5" components that I took out of my TL. Not sure what sub solution I will go with. I dont want to give up as much trunk space as I did in my TL so I will either go with a single 12" solobaric enclosure or some sort of free air under the back shelf. I am interested in hearing from anyone else that has done audio mods on the RL. Unfortunately with so few RLs sold, there are even less people that have been tinkering with the audio.
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#8
Originally Posted by 2007AcuraRL
The audio system in the RL is medioce at best; but it's ok for a factory installed system. Because of the integration of NAV and climate controls there's really no way to replace the factory system. On the other hand, the system can be significantly enhanced with replacement of the factory speakers. The main challenge when replacing the speakers is to undo all the frequency processing of the Bose design. Bose takes cheap paper cones and then boosts and decreases specific fequencies to make the speakers sound respectible. if you simply swap in good aftermarket speakers, the aftermarket speakers will sound shrill and harsh due to the previous overprocessing of the Bose design.
One possible solution I am considering is this module made by Alpine - Look here: http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=D . This module claims to undo all the frequency processing of a factory system. From the Alpine, you would install aftermarket amps, bypassing the Bose amp located in the right corner of the trunk behind the fabric panel.
I will be replacing the speakers in my RL probably with the Polk Momo 6.5" components that I took out of my TL. Not sure what sub solution I will go with. I dont want to give up as much trunk space as I did in my TL so I will either go with a single 12" solobaric enclosure or some sort of free air under the back shelf. I am interested in hearing from anyone else that has done audio mods on the RL. Unfortunately with so few RLs sold, there are even less people that have been tinkering with the audio.
One possible solution I am considering is this module made by Alpine - Look here: http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=D . This module claims to undo all the frequency processing of a factory system. From the Alpine, you would install aftermarket amps, bypassing the Bose amp located in the right corner of the trunk behind the fabric panel.
I will be replacing the speakers in my RL probably with the Polk Momo 6.5" components that I took out of my TL. Not sure what sub solution I will go with. I dont want to give up as much trunk space as I did in my TL so I will either go with a single 12" solobaric enclosure or some sort of free air under the back shelf. I am interested in hearing from anyone else that has done audio mods on the RL. Unfortunately with so few RLs sold, there are even less people that have been tinkering with the audio.
IN all honesty, getting a signal before the AMP is just asking for more work. I would just get the signal after the AMP, send it to a 3sixty.2 or the product you listed, and have it tuned by a pro, then to amps, then to speakers. That setup would give optimal signal as hooking up a line driver to the signal from the HU would be asking for distortion. Like I said before, can someone post the measurements for the rl's sub, the JL8w3v2 might fit.
#9
Originally Posted by csmeance
IN all honesty, getting a signal before the AMP is just asking for more work. I would just get the signal after the AMP, send it to a 3sixty.2 or the product you listed, and have it tuned by a pro, then to amps, then to speakers. That setup would give optimal signal as hooking up a line driver to the signal from the HU would be asking for distortion. Like I said before, can someone post the measurements for the rl's sub, the JL8w3v2 might fit.
#10
Originally Posted by larrynimmo
If I do get into rap, I will definately have to change out the speakers.
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#11
I took my RL in for the B16 service and got an RDX as a loaner. I was quite impressed with the RDX's audio, when I could hear it above the road noise (which oddly seemed to come from the side of the vehicle windows rather than the motor or the wheels), and noted that it seeme more tuned to rock/rap lower ranges of music. It was not as nice in terms of richness (pitch and tone were not quite as good as in the RL, and surround sound didn't seem as sharp), but handled the bass a bit better than the RL's system.
So if you want to drive slow to show off to the homies and rock the 'hood, I would recommend the RDX!!!
But if you want to drive down the highway fast and still be able to hear the music without it sounding like you are in a windstorm, I would still go with the RL!!!
Liked the RDX, BTW, but that wind noise would be a deal breaker for me. Otherwise, nice little SUV that handles very well for its size.
So if you want to drive slow to show off to the homies and rock the 'hood, I would recommend the RDX!!!
But if you want to drive down the highway fast and still be able to hear the music without it sounding like you are in a windstorm, I would still go with the RL!!!
Liked the RDX, BTW, but that wind noise would be a deal breaker for me. Otherwise, nice little SUV that handles very well for its size.
#12
Originally Posted by Godwhacker
I took my RL in for the B16 service and got an RDX as a loaner. I was quite impressed with the RDX's audio, when I could hear it above the road noise (which oddly seemed to come from the side of the vehicle windows rather than the motor or the wheels), and noted that it seeme more tuned to rock/rap lower ranges of music. It was not as nice in terms of richness (pitch and tone were not quite as good as in the RL, and surround sound didn't seem as sharp), but handled the bass a bit better than the RL's system.
So if you want to drive slow to show off to the homies and rock the 'hood, I would recommend the RDX!!!
But if you want to drive down the highway fast and still be able to hear the music without it sounding like you are in a windstorm, I would still go with the RL!!!
Liked the RDX, BTW, but that wind noise would be a deal breaker for me. Otherwise, nice little SUV that handles very well for its size.
So if you want to drive slow to show off to the homies and rock the 'hood, I would recommend the RDX!!!
But if you want to drive down the highway fast and still be able to hear the music without it sounding like you are in a windstorm, I would still go with the RL!!!
Liked the RDX, BTW, but that wind noise would be a deal breaker for me. Otherwise, nice little SUV that handles very well for its size.
#15
I think if I was 10-15 years younger I would actually kind of like design and layout of the RDX interior in a sort of Darth Vaderish kind of way (definately needs to be black though, otherwise the effect is lost), although I do agree that it could use an upgrade in terms of the plastics used, as well as having one or two less different textures/types of plastic. I personally hate the plastic that has "cross hatching" on it, like on the dash. My dads CTS has this, dust gathers in it easier and its a pain to clean, as the dirt gets into the little squares and is more difficult to clean out.
I was impressed with the storage space. There is enough storage in the middle console between the seats to store a briefcase, computer, and maybe even a small in law!!!
I was impressed with the storage space. There is enough storage in the middle console between the seats to store a briefcase, computer, and maybe even a small in law!!!
#16
Originally Posted by gdevine
Setting the sub and bass to 100% would distort most any system that I can think of.
#19
It tends to be a matter of taste.
I am driving an MDX this weekend, and formerly owned a TL. The ELS systems does seem to have more bass and depth, and it tends to carry better over the ambient noise those vehicles have (I found the RDX very noisey). The RL system may not apeal to bass thumpers, but the serenity of the cabin allows for a more refined mid and high range sound, and I think the Bose systems does that better. I tend not to crank the Bose system to appreciate the clairity, where as the ELS system does carry well at higher volumes while competing with car noise.
I am driving an MDX this weekend, and formerly owned a TL. The ELS systems does seem to have more bass and depth, and it tends to carry better over the ambient noise those vehicles have (I found the RDX very noisey). The RL system may not apeal to bass thumpers, but the serenity of the cabin allows for a more refined mid and high range sound, and I think the Bose systems does that better. I tend not to crank the Bose system to appreciate the clairity, where as the ELS system does carry well at higher volumes while competing with car noise.
#20
Originally Posted by Rexorg
You know what they say, "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose!"
#21
I believe the only Bose barnding is on the sub grill on the back deck. When Bose began designing car audio there name was everywhere. Have they lost out to true audiophile designers (Mark Levinson, Elliot S., Nakamichi)?
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