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Old 10-04-2011, 08:24 AM
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RL and ZDX made the top ten

Both the RL and the ZDX made the top ten of the worst selling cars in the first half of 2011 according to Automobile magazine.
I think that the RL should have had the HDD system implemented for the MMC. Otherwise it's a great buy.
The ZDX is a curious contender that appears to be a solution to a non-existant problem.
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I saw this. Not surprising, though, as Acura is marketing neither and people are increasingly bypassing Acura for other luxury marques.
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Honda had 5 of the top 10. RL, TSX Wagon, ZDX, Ridgeline and Civic Hybrid. If any manufacturer needs a shakeup right now...

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couldn't agree more.......
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One thing people forget as they keep saying that Acura is falling off the map is that they made a conscious decision to hold back R&D on the next latest and greatest car when the economy tanked. While other car manufactures are getting bailed out and laying off droves of workers, Acura decided to ride the wave they had already built up through the turmoil. Almost everyone here either loves or loved Acura for a very good reason. They were leading the game as far as a technology/value/luxury mix up until only recently. Yes, that wave is pretty flat now and running up on shore, but I have no doubt that the next one will come sweep us away again. I don't think they have lost sight, more than they have made a reasonably sound business move.
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It also doesn't help that the dealerships aren't carrying a lot of RL's and almost no ZDX's, at least here in the Seattle area.
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Main reason current RL doesn't sell....UGLY front end.
Other reason...people want BMWs and MBs, Acura has no cache' to them.

Reason ZDX doesn't sell...no idea, except maybe a bit overpriced.

If it were $10000 less I'd buy one.
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As would I. I actually LIKE the ZDX.
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can always compare the ZDX to X6 and then it's definitely 10k cheaper, or get the Crosstour and that's 10k under Acura.
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Just 2.5 years ago I had 3 Acura(RL, RDX and TL), now I am down to 1 RL and also selling it for my 3rd BMW....

Unless Honda brings back the performance and style again, otherwise I am very unlikely buying another Honda anytime soon, unless I decide to have 3rd kid then have to go for a minivan...
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Originally Posted by 037
can always compare the ZDX to X6 and then it's definitely 10k cheaper, or get the Crosstour and that's 10k under Acura.
BMW X6=Overpriced and unreliable(could be said for many BMWs

Crosstour doesn't have the features ZDX has, specifically SH-AWD, 300HP, and the Crosstour styling is a bit bland.
Old 10-08-2011, 10:07 AM
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The MSNBC article is abit skewed. They have the TSX Wagon listed. If you consider that Acura made only a handful to sell and given the earthquake in Japan, I'd give Acura a pass on that model.
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
BMW X6=Overpriced and unreliable(could be said for many BMWs

Crosstour doesn't have the features ZDX has, specifically SH-AWD, 300HP, and the Crosstour styling is a bit bland.
well, you want to save money, you'd have to suck it up
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Originally Posted by 037
well, you want to save money, you'd have to suck it up
Who said anything about saving money? IMO the ZDX is not worth the price Acura wants for it, and it's sales #s back me up. If the ZDX was a $50k car I would pay $50K, but IMO it's not.
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
Who said anything about saving money? IMO the ZDX is not worth the price Acura wants for it, and it's sales #s back me up. If the ZDX was a $50k car I would pay $50K, but IMO it's not.
well, it's an MDX with a different design and nobody here says MDX ain't worth 50k. The only difference is the design and thus interior space.
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Why bring the MDX into this, the topic is about the ZDX and the RL not selling well. The MDX has no problem selling, thus irrelevant for this topic.
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you guys must be hitting the crack pipe before you look at the ZDX if you actually like it.

I have the ZDX ranked up there with the pontiac aztek as the ugliest thing ever made by man.
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Just by looking on Acura site or internet, I originally thought like that...

But when I saw the real thing in front of my own eyes, I'm sold:

The funky exterior design, cool interior, the way it drives (most you guys know that already ;-) and a super-super-great deal, I just pulled the trigger.

On the plus side, I haven't seen one 95% of the time, making me feel special ;-)
Unlike Lexi RX or GX.

Everytime I got in my ZDX, I just uttered: This car is... Awesome!

But that's just me... ;-p
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
Why bring the MDX into this, the topic is about the ZDX and the RL not selling well. The MDX has no problem selling, thus irrelevant for this topic.
because they are the same car with a different design. But I guess it is a bit of a complicated thing to see with your eyes closed.

and thus, it is relevant.
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Originally Posted by 037
because they are the same car with a different design. But I guess it is a bit of a complicated thing to see with your eyes closed.

and thus, it is relevant.
LOL The same car with different design=different car.

I would consider buying a ZDX, I would not buy an MDX.

Again, this is about the ZDX and RL not selling...no one wants to talk about the MDX. It's a great vehicle, but it's BORING.
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
LOL The same car with different design=different car.

I would consider buying a ZDX, I would not buy an MDX.

Again, this is about the ZDX and RL not selling...no one wants to talk about the MDX. It's a great vehicle, but it's BORING.
boring compared to what, RX350, ML350?

it's all subjective and not the point.

The reason I even brought the MDX up is to show that the underpinnings of ZDX have nothing to do with it's lack of cars popularity.

It's still a great car, but not popular. It's worth the money because the hardware is all there, just like the MDX, but the marketing, the design, that's different.

Either way...I'm done on the topic, go buy a Hyundai.
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Originally Posted by 037
boring compared to what, RX350, ML350?

it's all subjective and not the point.

The reason I even brought the MDX up is to show that the underpinnings of ZDX have nothing to do with it's lack of cars popularity.

It's still a great car, but not popular. It's worth the money because the hardware is all there, just like the MDX, but the marketing, the design, that's different.

Either way...I'm done on the topic, go buy a Hyundai.
EXCUSE ME?!? You could not PAY ME to drive a Hyundai. You need to understand people have opinions different than your own....you will when you grow up. Oh and since you're done, with no significant contribution...don't let the door hit you in the, well, you know.
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Originally Posted by jfarabaugh
you guys must be hitting the crack pipe before you look at the ZDX if you actually like it.

I have the ZDX ranked up there with the pontiac aztek as the ugliest thing ever made by man.
"I say: Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side
Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side
It a gonna burn, give me music make me jump and prance
It a go done, give me the music make me rock in the dance"



Seriously, have you actually seen a ZDX in person? It's actually pretty striking. It simply doesn't photograph well at all. To each, his own....
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
"I say: Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side
Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side
It a gonna burn, give me music make me jump and prance
It a go done, give me the music make me rock in the dance"



Seriously, have you actually seen a ZDX in person? It's actually pretty striking. It simply doesn't photograph well at all. To each, his own....
yes, seen it numerous times in person at the dealer. been inside and out.... I just don't see what you guys see I guess
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Interesting thing is, I have owned a 2005 RL for over 6 years and I'm considering the ZDX. I guess I'm weird. :-)
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hope this member don't mind me posting up his pic. But with a few mods the zdx is pretty nice.
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I must admit, that ZDX looks REALLY good.
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The interior looks pretty sharp. The RL doesn't pose well either.

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The ZDX and RL are interesting paradoxs ...
One could say the ZDX is ugly and over priced for a 2 person SUV and
the RL is classic styled but underpowered and underpriced for a BMW MB contendor.
It is also interesting that cars get more attention in the front and girls get more attention with there rears ... another paradox.
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