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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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I hit a damn deer

yesterday morning i was helping a friend with his Honda CBR1000RR motorcycle (his stator wouldn't charge the battery). We left at around 3:30am heading to GermanTown, MD and the point of leaving at that time was to avoid traffic and make it without the bike shutting down.
I was in the second left lane on I-495N when i noticed that the 18 wheeler in front of me had a bunch of things flying off of it.
I decided to switch to the left lane, and there it was in the middle of the road. A big A$$ deer that was hit by a truck whose owner neglected to report to the highway patrol. it was a split second decision, if i avoid hitting the dead deer, my friend will run into it and reck badly (90mph). My friend was following me too close, and i knew that he hadn't seen the animal. To make this short, i hit the damn thing and broke my Amuse front lip, it split in half and i had blood all over the front and undercarriege.
My friend thanked me for this, but i was still pissed off.
My only relief is that it got damaged for a good cause.

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It took 8 months to deliver this piece.
I'll post pictures later
Old May 7, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Nothing wrong with taking one for the team!!
Old May 7, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Sorry to hear that Qatar. I'd sacrifice the front of my car any day to save the life of a friend. Any other damage besides the lip?

Here in Southern California we always have to be on the lookout for blown-out truck tires sitting on the highway. I guess it's always something.
Old May 7, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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There is a slight damage to the plastic cover under my left foglight and the one surrounding my inner fender.
Old May 7, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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One thing that threw me off was when i got home, i statred washing the blood of, and little pieces of meat started falling off the bottom. That was nasty.
Another thing, in the Commonwealth of Virginia if you hit a dead animal it sin't a collision and you wont get an accident report, its an incident.
I called the highway patrol anyway and reported what happened so no one else will end in the same situation
Old May 7, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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I'm not mad at the deer, i'm mad at the driver who hit it. they should have reported that.
so much for responsibility
Old May 7, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Thats ok, things can be replaced. At 90mph on a motorcycle, he could have been killed, easily.
You did the right thing!
Old May 7, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Good looking out, man. Better to lose the Amuse lip than a friend.
Old May 7, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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any pics?
Old May 7, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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So were you going 90 mph as well?

Sorry, but you have only yourself to blame for this. If you both had been going the speed limit you probably wouldn't be posting this, or the damage to your car would have been less.

Also, maybe the person that hit it had called it in, and how would that make a difference to you anyway?

Totally avoidable at a lower, SAFER speed.
Old May 7, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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So were you going 90 mph as well?

Sorry, but you have only yourself to blame for this. If you both had been going the speed limit you probably wouldn't be posting this, or the damage to your car would have been less.

Also, maybe the person that hit it had called it in, and how would that make a difference to you anyway?

Totally avoidable at a lower, SAFER speed.
If you read my first post, my friends bike was running on a charged battery. His stator stopped working and i was there only to help him get to the dealership.
Another reason why we left at 3:30am so there wont be any traffic to worry about or endanger anyone elses life
Believe it or not, 5 miles from the dealership, all his lights went out and the bike started dying.
I would disagree with your statement that had i been traveling at speed limit the damage would have been the same or worse. My body kit is fiberglass, so it was going to shatter regardless and if i had traveled at a lower rate and hit the animal, i might have dragged it with me.
in regards to calling in the incident, i was the first to call, and that was about 40 minutes after impact and it would have made a big difference had the person called. the safety patrol or highway patrol respond to this type of calls and stand by with take down lights till cleaning crew are dispatched.
Old May 7, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
So were you going 90 mph as well?

Sorry, but you have only yourself to blame for this. If you both had been going the speed limit you probably wouldn't be posting this, or the damage to your car would have been less.

Also, maybe the person that hit it had called it in, and how would that make a difference to you anyway?

Totally avoidable at a lower, SAFER speed.
I don't think he said he was going 90mph.
Old May 7, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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I don't think he said he was going 90mph.
My bad. He was going 90 mph. I didn't read the thread carefully....
Old May 7, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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So were you going 90 mph as well?

Sorry, but you have only yourself to blame for this. If you both had been going the speed limit you probably wouldn't be posting this, or the damage to your car would have been less.

Also, maybe the person that hit it had called it in, and how would that make a difference to you anyway?

Totally avoidable at a lower, SAFER speed.
I don't know about that.

60 mph = 88 ft/sec
90 mph = 132 ft/sec

That difference in speed is an extra 44 ft traveled and I doubt many people could have reacted in sufficient time to avoid the deer, even traveling at 60 mph, given the way he described it.

Plus, hitting a deer at 60 mph isn't going to just put a small scratch on the car....

Bottom line is no one got hurt, that's all that matters.
Old May 8, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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If you read my first post, my friends bike was running on a charged battery. His stator stopped working and i was there only to help him get to the dealership.
Another reason why we left at 3:30am so there wont be any traffic to worry about or endanger anyone elses life
Believe it or not, 5 miles from the dealership, all his lights went out and the bike started dying.
I would disagree with your statement that had i been traveling at speed limit the damage would have been the same or worse. My body kit is fiberglass, so it was going to shatter regardless and if i had traveled at a lower rate and hit the animal, i might have dragged it with me.
in regards to calling in the incident, i was the first to call, and that was about 40 minutes after impact and it would have made a big difference had the person called. the safety patrol or highway patrol respond to this type of calls and stand by with take down lights till cleaning crew are dispatched.
I read the first post...I couldn't care less what the situation was...why was he driving at 90mph if he was going to lose his lights at any second? Put it on a trailer, or wait till it gets light out, hell even PUSH it there, but don't drive 90 mph with no lights.

As to you being the first to call, how can you possibly know that? LE wouldn't give out that info to anyone, and they sure as hell don't have roadkill cleanup crews standing by at 0330 waiting to spring into action...they would either wait till morning or someone would be called out of bed. I will agree that whoever did hit it is an irresponsible scumbag who should have called in.
Old May 8, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
So were you going 90 mph as well?

Sorry, but you have only yourself to blame for this. If you both had been going the speed limit you probably wouldn't be posting this, or the damage to your car would have been less.

Also, maybe the person that hit it had called it in, and how would that make a difference to you anyway?

Totally avoidable at a lower, SAFER speed.
You must work for the Highway Patrol where every accident is because "you were going too fast". The largest single reason for accidents, or incidents as I prefer to call them, is stupidity but being stupid is not illegal so they go with speed as the culprit.
Running into a deer is a sreak of bad luck but to blame speed on the problem is political BS. You advocate 60? Why not 30? The deer was only going 1 MPH, was he walking too fast too?
Old May 8, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Good job in taking that hit for the possible accident your friend could have had. Sucks that it happened but at least you weren't selfish there. Hopefully you can get a new lip quicker than 8 months this time.

I think it is pretty lame to be driving that fast at night like that but meh, I have no idea of that stretch of road and all that so I won't really preach on. I agree with others that it wouldn't have mattered if you were going 60mph or so...you'd have most likely still had the same situation. The only difference I could see then is you wouldn't have been as close to/gaining on the truck and thereby not wanted to change lanes but hey, what's done is done.
Old May 8, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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You must work for the Highway Patrol where every accident is because "you were going too fast". The largest single reason for accidents, or incidents as I prefer to call them, is stupidity but being stupid is not illegal so they go with speed as the culprit.
Running into a deer is a sreak of bad luck but to blame speed on the problem is political BS. You advocate 60? Why not 30? The deer was only going 1 MPH, was he walking too fast too?
Try reading some of my other posts in regard to speeding and LE, I break the speed limit daily on my drive to and from work, but I don't do it while racing a motorcycle with no lights at 90 mph, and no, I'm not a cop. 90MPH on a public road is just wrong no matter how you try to spin it.

Also at slower speed you have more time to react to the situation, which is what I should have said instead of speaking about the damage potential.

Still about the guy on the bike doing 90 with no lights.
Old May 8, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
Try reading some of my other posts in regard to speeding and LE, I break the speed limit daily on my drive to and from work, but I don't do it while racing a motorcycle with no lights at 90 mph, and no, I'm not a cop. 90MPH on a public road is just wrong no matter how you try to spin it.

Also at slower speed you have more time to react to the situation, which is what I should have said instead of speaking about the damage potential.

Still about the guy on the bike doing 90 with no lights.
It seems that you again didn't read my post carefully.
The motorcycle wasn't racing, actually the reason why it was traveling at that speed so it wont lose its power on the highway.
Please check my post again, we traveled a good 27 miles before his battery level became low and his lights went out, he didn't ride with his lights out.
My friend's stator wouldn't charge the battery, and his bike stopped on the highway, i went with a fully charged battery so he can drop his bike at the dealership which was 32 miles away. A bike running on a fully charged battery without a functional stator wouldn't last 37 minutes and thats why he was going that fast.
In regards to the cleaning crew, they work shifts just like the highway patrol, i know that because i worked with them. I didn't necessarily mean poeple who would wipe it clean, i meant a motorist assist team with cleaning trucks and take down lights.
I dont know where you live, but in the commonwealth, they'll come and remove the carcass from the road.

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Old May 8, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Old May 8, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Old May 8, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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The bodyshop estimate is $1638.90 without the bodykit price included.
Old May 8, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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What's to read carefully? He was going 90MPH on a public highway..that's all I need to know. HE could have trailered the bike rather than endanger innocent people, and it matters not that it was 0330...there was still traffic around.

Stop trying to rationalize this to me, you won't succeed.
Old May 8, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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What's to read carefully? He was going 90MPH on a public highway..that's all I need to know. HE could have trailered the bike rather than endanger innocent people, and it matters not that it was 0330...there was still traffic around.

Stop trying to rationalize this to me, you won't succeed.
He could have trailered the bike, but he doesn't have one. who are you going to call around that time to help you?
Dont think i'm trying to explain anything to you, you keep your opinion.
Speeding alone does not endanger peoples lives, sometimes slowing does.
riding a bike at speed limit knowing that sticking to speed limit won't get you there is alot more dangerous than what he did.
If you dont ride motorcycles you might not know the answer to this, but tell me what would be the difference between hiting a deer carcass at 65 and 90 with consideration to its size.
all i know is i tried to help a friend and ended up damaging my car, but its all worth it and i'm not regreting helping him.
i won't turn this to an argument, i just wanted to inform.
Old May 8, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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He could have trailered the bike, but he doesn't have one. who are you going to call around that time to help you?
Dont think i'm trying to explain anything to you, you keep your opinion.
Speeding alone does not endanger peoples lives, sometimes slowing does.
riding a bike at speed limit knowing that sticking to speed limit won't get you there is alot more dangerous than what he did.
If you dont ride motorcycles you might not know the answer to this, but tell me what would be the difference between hiting a deer carcass at 65 and 90 with consideration to its size.
all i know is i tried to help a friend and ended up damaging my car, but its all worth it and i'm not regreting helping him.
i won't turn this to an argument, i just wanted to inform.
Opinions are common and unavoidable in any forum. If circumstances are questionable to some, I would just post " I hit a deer, here are the pics". That way you don't waste time with justification. Otherwise, glad everyone was OK, and sorry to hear about your damages, whatever the speed. I'm sure your main priority was to post pictures for the interest of all at Acurazine.
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Opinions are common and unavoidable in any forum. If circumstances are questionable to some, I would just post " I hit a deer, here are the pics". That way you don't waste time with justification. Otherwise, glad everyone was OK, and sorry to hear about your damages, whatever the speed. I'm sure your main priority was to post pictures for the interest of all at Acurazine.


DoctorTuna is correct.

Please stick to topic.
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Sorry to hear that but at least the damage doesnt look to bad.
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
Try reading some of my other posts in regard to speeding and LE, I break the speed limit daily on my drive to and from work, but I don't do it while racing a motorcycle with no lights at 90 mph, and no, I'm not a cop. 90MPH on a public road is just wrong no matter how you try to spin it.

Also at slower speed you have more time to react to the situation, which is what I should have said instead of speaking about the damage potential.

Still about the guy on the bike doing 90 with no lights.
ok grandpa...mabe when you get rear ended for driving your age you will realize that 90mph on a highway is not fast at all. ...lol

what happend happend....and he learned his own lesson, i'm not saying that he shudn't go 90...i'm just saying it should be done with caution...at any speed for that matter.
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DoctorTuna is correct.

Please stick to topic.
The topic is a statement of hitting a deer, it's not debateable. The controversy regarded velocity. The discussion of "speed kills" will always be contraversial as long as statisticians continue to distort the facts.
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Originally Posted by vincethe1
ok grandpa...mabe when you get rear ended for driving your age you will realize that 90mph on a highway is not fast at all. ...lol
Are you a moron? I stated I don't have a problem with the speed, I had a problem with the situation. I speed, all the tme...WHERE IT'S SAFE. Not in the middle of the night with no lights at 90. Understand now, sonny?

We can't all have 75mph speed limits like in Nevada.
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I may get flamed for this, but I've never understood why people here try to put Honda parts (JDM) on their cars. JDM this and JDM that, and to be honest, in my opinion, most of JDM "this & that" cars I've seen looked "rice" at best. While I am at it, when I got bored and browsed TL forums, I was sadden by the ugliness of so many butcher jobs and some with stickers. Aren't stickers so 90s now?

Anyways, but your car, I think it looks good, very tastefully done.
Such shame that you had to get in an accident like that...
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Originally Posted by ///M Roadster
I may get flamed for this, but I've never understood why people here try to put Honda parts (JDM) on their cars. JDM this and JDM that, and to be honest, in my opinion, most of JDM "this & that" cars I've seen looked "rice" at best. While I am at it, when I got bored and browsed TL forums, I was sadden by the ugliness of so many butcher jobs and some with stickers. Aren't stickers so 90s now?

Anyways, but your car, I think it looks good, very tastefully done.
Such shame that you had to get in an accident like that...
Thanks M Rooadster.
It took me a while to make it look like that.
I'll probably get a mugen front lip now.
Old May 10, 2008 | 04:26 AM
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Are you a moron? I stated I don't have a problem with the speed, I had a problem with the situation. I speed, all the tme...WHERE IT'S SAFE. Not in the middle of the night with no lights at 90. Understand now, sonny?

We can't all have 75mph speed limits like in Nevada.
As stated before, we can argue for ever about this issue.
For some reason you keep changing the facts, where in my post did i say "doing 90 mph without lights"? My post stated that when i hit the deer, my friend was behind me doing 90 mph and 20 miles after the accident (incident) his lights went out.
You say you speed all the time where its SAFE? who are you to determine where is safe and where is not?
Lets say you determined one area to be safe and sped up to 75 mph, do you think if you get pulled over "i believe this area is safe thats why i sped" is a good enough reason.
anytime you share the road with other motorists, no one can decide where is safe.
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You say you speed all the time where its SAFE?
It's called a race track.

Or an Autocross event.

Sorry, Bob.
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It's called a race track.

Or an Autocross event.

Sorry, Bob.
I think we all need to agree to disagree. Not all of us strictly obey the speed limit, are morally intact, and only speed on racetracks.
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