Hi guys. I just joined because of this thread. Recently got an 01 CL-S with a bad tranny. I got my hands on an 06 AV6 tranny and plan to start this weekend.

Did I mention how freakin' heavy these trannys are?!?!


Thanks to everyone for the knowledge and 411!

 

OK, was working on the lift and noticed that one of the pulleys was crooked and was rubbing the frame of the lift. Called Bendpak sent some pictures, and a new runway is being shipped out. It should arrive early next week. It all just adds up to more delays in getting this new transmission in!

 

Pulled the old transmission out, swapped over a few brackets and sensors. Now its time to get the new transmission in!

 

Well, the shipping company called and said the new runway was ready to be picked up. I loaded the original on the trailer and took it up to the depot and swapped it. I got the new runway home and opened it up. I then discovered that they only sent a runway, no cylinder, no pulleys. Another call to Bendpak and they are shipping a pallet with a cylinder and all the other parts I'll need. They neglected to tell me that they wanted me to strip the runway before I shipped it. Now with Christmas, I won't get the parts until late next week. More Delays!

 

me and my friend just pulled in 1G CL his tranny on his driveway and swap it over for newone... took us two days just because he ripped of middle shaft... and it was hard to get a new one.

 

Was this the 3.0 or the 2.3?

 

3.0

 

New transmission is in! Drives and shifts perfectly! Overall, a very simple job. Thanks again to everyone who provided the info about the transmissions

 

Congrats!

 

:bubbarubb woo mutha fuckin hoooooo!

 

Well, the missing parts for the lift were supposed to be delivered yesterday. I called and found that the truck had a breakdown, and my package had been misloaded. As far as they could tell, it would be delivered on Monday. I'm supposed to call them on Monday for more details. MORE DELAYS! This is a royal pain!

 

Damn, that sucks. Hopefully you get everything Monday and it works out.

 

hey nva av6 i jus got a auto cls wit 50k on it jus wondering if u would be able to fix it and do the oddesey tranny swap for me pm me ur number if possible cuz im tryin to get this car on the road as soon as possible

 

[QUOTE=NVA-AV6;11616009][QUOTE=friesm2000;11615965]other advantage is that it was designed for a heavier vehicle too, so going to be designed that much stronger

the TL type S 08 thats sh AWD right ?

gardless do any of the models have a limited slip that could swapped?

 

The 08 Type S is the 3rd gen. 09-up is the SH-AWD models. I dont think any of the autos had limited slip.

 

So far none of the AT trannies have LSD in the tranny, if you even look at the commercial where they do the rolling road they show the fronts as one segment while the rears are independant segments, in other words the rear diff is LSD but the front is not.

 

hey not trying to argue but then how could it be considered AWD ? an open diff is one wheel drive

 

oh btw back in the day i was doing some research on gear swapps out of some of the diff makes and models i did find there were some different gear ratios in mdx/oddey ect

 

Cause its Super Handling!!!

Just because its got an open diff doesnt mean one wheel is always getting the power. Sometimes both do. Depends on the situation.

I believe the Odyssey does use a slightly longer final drive ratio.

EDIT - Depending on the year you get will determine what ratios are different. I couldnt find all the ratios for a 2002-04 Odyssey, but the FD was listed as 4.2 while the CL-S is 4.428. The 05 Odyssey has different 4th and 5th gears (.767 and .595 for the Odyssey and .653 and .470 for the CL) with the same final drive ratio.

http://hondanews.com/channels/honda-...?query=odyssey

http://hondanews.com/channels/honda-...?query=odyssey

http://hondanews.com/channels/acura-...tions?query=cl

 

P.Diddy...What kind of fluid did you use for your tranny cooler? I have mounted my Comptech but havent ran the lines yet. Waiting on deciding on what fluid to use first.

 

So any issues with it so far?... mine just gave out the other day and i was thinking of doing something like this but i just want someones point of view who was done it....

 

no problems so far. ive put just over 20k miles on the tranny since ive done the swap back in jan '10.

 

I got one replacement under warranty about three years ago after much fighting with the dealership. Now that one has gone funny. The car has been sitting in my driveway for about 6 months because I refuse to get rid of it. I really miss driving my 2001 CL-s. It gives me hope to see there is a reasonable alternative to another $5000. bogus transmission.

Hey NVA-AV6, any interest in another job? I am local to you. I tried to PM you but I think I have not posted enough to send one.

 

Sure, I actually have a 05 TL tranny sitting here I pulled from a customers car as part of a J36/6spd swap. I checked it out before the swap and it ran great. I can be reached at 703-468-0939.

 

Paul does great work

 

Hey NVA, Thanks for your super quick reply. I got an email saying you PMed me but because I have not posted 5 times, no access for me. That is what I get for being an anti-social lurker. I am definitely interested in the tranny you have on hand and will give you a call tomorrow

 

I will be going alot of hard core fab tomorrow and may not hear the phone over the grinder or may have my hands full welding so leave a message if I don't pick up.

 

Hooray, I can PM. I am a full acurazine citizen!

 

hey nva-av6 what part of va are you in. im norfolk might want to come check your shop out

 

ignore my last post i read a couple pages back and saw it

 

I lost count of my posts I need five before I can PM Nav member about a plan of attack. I found a 2004 Oddyssey Tranny with a year warranty for 1300. I also found a 2006 Oddyssey Tranny with less than 30000 miles for 1000 but no warranty but moneyis tight right now. I want to go with the low mileage tranny but I am worried about the durability of the Honda Oddyssey tranny? After I get my five posts I am sure Nav will help me out with info. I forgot to ask and I did not see it in any posts but if I do a 2004 to 2006 Oddy tranny swap into my 2000 TL will I need to swap the COmputer as well?? Thanks for answering the newbies questions. Also I am covered up at work so if I do not get back right away it is based on my having to log off. Thanks

 

Well, as of last week the lift is operational. I changed the oil in my Civic and our Toyota Tacoma. With the civic I can get up to the third lock in my short-ceilinged garage. With the truck, I can get it high enough to put jackstands under the horizontal supports. I love it!

Next, wasting no time after the lift was operational, I found a transmission. So Wednesday I drove up to the north side of Detroit (8 Hours round trip) and picked up an 05 Odyssey transmission with 38,000 miles on it, with a 1 year warranty for $650.

Now the Questions:

1. The parts interchange claims the EX-L and Touring are interchangable, and the EX and LX are interchangable. But the two groups don't interchange with each other. Does that matter to us? This is going into an 01' CL Type S.

2. John, at the Salvage yard I got the tranny from, said I may as well change the seals as long as the transmission is out. What seals is he referring to? Driveshaft seals?

3. Some people in this thread have mentioned using a service manual for the CL. Which manual are they referring to? How much are they, and where can I get one?

I'd have loved to have this done at Paul's shop, but Northeast Ohio is a little far from Virginia to do a tranny swap.

The salvage yard I got this from had another tranny for $500 ($650 out the door with a year warranty and tax). It had 63,000 miles. American and Import Auto Parts, they are just north of Detroit and nice to work with. There is another yard a few miles from them that also has one for $500 with 45,000 miles. I found these on car-part.com

Thanks in advance for any advice. I think the wife is getting excited to get her car back now that she sees things moving in the forward direction!

 

1. Im not aware of any physical differences between the transmissions between the EX-L and EX/LX. The -L is for leather.

2. Axles seals can be swapped out if theyre torn (cheap insurance anyway). I think he was probably referring to the rear main seal.

3. I got mine from Haynes, but looking at their website now they dont have anything available for the CL anymore.

 

Hey civicdriver, I'm a Civic Driver too.. a 93' cx

The guy at the yard said they were different, but you know how part interchanges work.

I've never changed a rear main seal, it it difficult? Any tricks, traps or pitfalls? I'm sure the best time to do it though is while the tranny is out...

What part number is on your Haynes manual? I really can't see them completely removing the fact that they ever made one for the CL from their website. Maybe I can find one on ebay or craigslist, but the part number from it might be helpful, if you can find it.

 

well i only have 2 options

07 AV6 150k miles $700

06 AV6 interior fire so unkown mileage $700

im leaning more towards the car with the interior fire as its a better chance that has <100k miles

what you guys think?

 

skilzz, the yard I got mine from had another one for $500, it has 63,000 miles. Like others have done, you can possibly arrange for shipping. Look at car-part.com and search in michigan for a 2005 Odyssey, American and Import Auto Parts is the name of the place.

 

does the accord trans come with the hole open for the P.S. assist speed sensor? it seems to be blocked off in the picture above. maybe theres just a cap over it?

 

thanks for the input. im trying to avoid the odyssey trans since i have no experience with tapping and threading holes and wouldnt want to mess up the transmission case

 

Sorry, I'm not familiar enough with them to know which is which in the pictures above and not to mention, I don't know where the cap you are talking about is located. I do recall as I read through this thread that Paul (NVA-06), who is a frequent contributor and does these swaps at his shop somewhere in Virgina says that he feeds the power steering back on itself at the rack, it provides minimal feedback anyway. I am currently taking mine apart, I'm about ready to take out the halfshafts. I am writing down all the steps I take and taking a few pictures. I'll know more when I get the trannys out and sitting next to one another as to what is going to be required of the Oddy tranny.

 

I coulda sworn NVA-AV6 said the bolt pattern was different or something like that