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Old 08-16-2010 | 02:41 PM
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Yet another 7 year service thread

Alright, I know there have been too many of these threads to count, but I was wondering about something:

Did you guys just do the timing belt, water pump, drive belts, etc. etc? I was told that I also should replace the seals too, but I'm wondering if when they say "replace all the seals" they're referring to ALL the seals all over the engine bay, outside of the parts you're replacing/doing maintenance on.

I'm about to buy all the parts I need for the 7 year maintenance service, and all the threads I've found in the CL/TL forums just show people buying water pumps, timing belt, etc. No extra seals or anything. Help a car noob out? please?
Old 08-16-2010 | 03:50 PM
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I just did this on my CLS-6 and purchased Honda:
TB belt
Water pump
Tensioner
Timing belt adjuster pulley
Timing belt idler pulley
New Drive belt
New PS belt

I reused the adjuster pully bolt and auto adjuster coller from the old adjuster pulley. BTW, the adjuster pulley bolt is torqued to 19 foot pounds. I inspected the cam seals and the crank seal while everything was opened up and there was no noticable leaking so I did not take it to that level. If you unbolt the PS pump and move it up and out of the way as best as you can, it will make the TB work a little easier; however, it is not necessary. I marked my old TB with a silver sharpie at the cams and at the crank to transfer the marks to the new belt just to have an idea as to if I had the new belt on correctly, which helped me alot, but again, it is not necessary to do this. If you do this yourself, be prepared for alot of coolant release when the WP is removed. Cover up the oil dip stick whole and crank sensor area to keep it clean.
Old 08-16-2010 | 06:08 PM
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i have 03 CLS 6 speed as well and im at 87k miles and i dont know if i still can wait till 105k or do it know.

what about valve adjustment? where to go ?

find a deal at the dealer or go get the quote at the shop ?

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Old 08-16-2010 | 07:11 PM
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Me too, I got an 03 at 81k, and I'm a little on the fence about getting the service tbqh. For what it's worth, I subscribed to Acura's service reminders, and they aren't telling me to get the 7 year/105k service done.... maybe they DO want you to wait until 105k?

and about the valves, my service manual says to do it only if there's excessive noise. Again, on the fence. Want to be safe, but don't want to pay for something I don't need.
Old 08-16-2010 | 07:18 PM
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i did this at 140k and i have 180k now
T-belt
Water pump
Tensioner
Timing belt adjuster pulley
Timing belt idler pulley
New Drive belt
New PS belt
Spark plugs
Valve cover gasket
Old 08-16-2010 | 07:29 PM
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i doubt that mine is gonna last that long. question is do it now or wait till 105k ? i drive hard if thats matter
Old 08-17-2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
i doubt that mine is gonna last that long. question is do it now or wait till 105k ? i drive hard if thats matter

Belts wear over time, more so than the actual mileage on the belts...So you should do the service now...I believe Acura says 7 years or 105k, whichever comes first.
Old 08-17-2010 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapture
Me too, I got an 03 at 81k, and I'm a little on the fence about getting the service tbqh. For what it's worth, I subscribed to Acura's service reminders, and they aren't telling me to get the 7 year/105k service done.... maybe they DO want you to wait until 105k?

and about the valves, my service manual says to do it only if there's excessive noise. Again, on the fence. Want to be safe, but don't want to pay for something I don't need.
I hear yea, this has crossed my mind recently as well. I have an '03 with 70k?
Old 08-17-2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ANC297
Belts wear over time, more so than the actual mileage on the belts...So you should do the service now...I believe Acura says 7 years or 105k, whichever comes first.
I was talking to my Acura dealer and they stated that HOA gave them new specs of 10 years on the belts or 105K. They also told me that they routinely see acuras come in with 120K+ on the original belts......and not to be too worried about being right at 105K. regardless I will do my setup next year
Old 08-18-2010 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
I was talking to my Acura dealer and they stated that HOA gave them new specs of 10 years on the belts or 105K. They also told me that they routinely see acuras come in with 120K+ on the original belts......and not to be too worried about being right at 105K. regardless I will do my setup next year
Can anyone confirm this? Or are these new specs for newer belts?
Old 08-18-2010 | 04:43 PM
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well it would not be the first time they changed specs on the belts

originally it was 60K then it was 90K and now it is 105K
Old 08-18-2010 | 08:29 PM
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i've seen CL with 145k and oryginal timing belt
Old 08-19-2010 | 01:54 AM
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I did everything listed above plus the cam seals and the spark plug boots/gaskets along with the valve adjustment. I also did upper and lower radiator hoses while I was at it but I didnt touch the thermostat. Basically I wanted to replace anything that could fail before the next 105k. Peace of mind.
Old 08-19-2010 | 02:42 PM
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Just an FYI...There was a Timing belt Auto-Tensioner safety recall around Nov 2006. It didn't affect all CLs as there is a VIN list for it. It's actually an update to the Water Pump recall that came in Nov of 2003. It's Service Bulletin 03-022 which replaced the 02-022 for the water pump. If your car is/was affected, the Timing Belt Auto-Tensioner Water Pump and Timing belt should have been changed. Meaning...You mave have more miles left on your timing belt than you think. I'm close to 140000miles. I bought it with 39000 miles. I checked with the dealership and they confirmed that my timing belt was changed around 36000 miles due to the service bulletin. Mine went to the shop today to have the TB service done.
Old 08-19-2010 | 03:39 PM
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well if your timing belt has been changed doesn't mean that the other belts or th water pump will be able to last till you change the belt. 105k/7 years is quite a long time for components that used to be changed out at 60k intervals.
Old 08-19-2010 | 08:34 PM
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I did everything listed above plus cam seals,crank seal,spark plugs,upper and lower radiator hoses and valve adjustment. I bought timing belt kit from dealer. now good to go next 105k
Old 08-19-2010 | 08:50 PM
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how much did you pay total ?
Old 08-19-2010 | 09:10 PM
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I'm looking to buy a 03 cl type s with 46k original miles on it. It's been driven by an older woman. What do you recommend i get done as far as service?
Old 08-20-2010 | 06:20 AM
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how much did you pay total ?
I gotta find receipt. I'll let you know.
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i think i paid about 500-600 for my parts. I had a few other items with my total bill and it was over 700.
Old 08-20-2010 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rai_281
I'm looking to buy a 03 cl type s with 46k original miles on it. It's been driven by an older woman. What do you recommend i get done as far as service?

Manual or auto??

I would get everything done just to make the car as close to new as possible, but you can probably hold off a year or two if you want.
Old 08-20-2010 | 02:02 PM
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A year or two ?
Good luck on that,being a member here.
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I don't really understand what you meant.

but my point is that being old lady driven, that it only has 46k miles on it and that some members are saying that it was changed to 10 years (or at least more than 7) he's probably good to go for a while IMO
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I was saying:
There's no way he will wait a year or 2 to do anything.
"Especailly" socializing on this site.
People here are great for the most part and will not have a problem pushing you to get what ever is needed.
Old 08-20-2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nersh7
Manual or auto??

I would get everything done just to make the car as close to new as possible, but you can probably hold off a year or two if you want.
It's an auto.
Old 08-20-2010 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by richardparker
I was saying:
There's no way he will wait a year or 2 to do anything.
"Especailly" socializing on this site.
People here are great for the most part and will not have a problem pushing you to get what ever is needed.

ahh that makes much more sense lol.

That is most likely true.
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I also called acura and it is $1400 to do the timing belt. Does that sound about right?
Old 08-20-2010 | 06:19 PM
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Thats about right for the dealership but they overcharge with everything
Old 08-20-2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nersh7
Thats about right for the dealership but they overcharge with everything
Honestly how long would be safe to wait before i replace it? It's an 03 with 46k miles.
Old 08-21-2010 | 02:57 PM
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So just for clarification, I just got my Option underdrive pulley installed a few months ago, so does that mean I don't have to change out any of the drive belts, just the timing belt? I was under the impression that there was a 3rd belt, but I could only find the two I replaced with the pulley...
Old 08-21-2010 | 03:26 PM
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Alright, so I found this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Acura...Q5fAccessories

Is that all about right? Anything I'd need outside of that? (adjuster pulley?) I already have spark plugs.

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Old 08-21-2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rai_281
Honestly how long would be safe to wait before i replace it? It's an 03 with 46k miles.

Probably a couple years

I would do it sooner than later though
Old 08-21-2010 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rai_281
Honestly how long would be safe to wait before i replace it? It's an 03 with 46k miles.
Id do it now. Rubber deteriorates over time. And its not just the belt you have to worry about. Its the tensioner and the water pump. Those go without warning and cost alot more then the t-belt service to repair since they will most likely destroy the engine.

Go to an independent shop. ~$800 including parts is about right. If you get the parts for them you might even be able to find a place to do it for $4-500.

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So just for clarification, I just got my Option underdrive pulley installed a few months ago, so does that mean I don't have to change out any of the drive belts, just the timing belt? I was under the impression that there was a 3rd belt, but I could only find the two I replaced with the pulley...
You had to replace the two drive belts since the option pulley is smaller, so you should be fine.
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What about this. more expensive than what Rapture found though.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ACURA...ts_Accessories

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^ u have two adjusters idk why but in the rapture's link is only one
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^ u have two adjusters idk why but in the rapture's link is only one
PN 14510 is #6 and 14520 is #8.



#8 puts pressure on #6.
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The kit that Rapture found doesn't include hydraulic tensioner.
The one i found does. first automatic adjuster is hydraulic tensioner. second one is tensioner pulley.
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civic beat me...
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Originally Posted by anthracitecl
civic beat me...
I just also did my TB servcie.
i was initially gonna just drive to VA and have NVA... do it but with over 105k I did not wanna push my luck to hard.
I just copped out and did it with the dealer .
however I dont know why they do not do the seals, cams and the rest ... can sb tell me why.
only my water pump, tensioners, pulley and coolant were changed. i told them not to change the spark plugs becos they wanted $284 for the plugs i figure out i cud do it 4 cheaper else where..

what else do i also need to do to make this a complete service aprt frm changing spark plugs ??

Is a valve adjustment necessary at 105k. ( we all know out cars mk a lot of ticking noise as it is)


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