Started on some in home porting
10-26-2013, 12:09 PM
#1561
I checked wires at sensors and got.
ect 4.91v
iat 4.93v
atf 12.31v
tps 4.92v
reference looks good.i just don't know about the atf sensor and if its supposed to be 12.31v or not. i also don't know how to check the ohms on that one as it only has one wire.
ect 4.91v
iat 4.93v
atf 12.31v
tps 4.92v
reference looks good.i just don't know about the atf sensor and if its supposed to be 12.31v or not. i also don't know how to check the ohms on that one as it only has one wire.
10-26-2013, 06:16 PM
#1562
I think i may have it shifting all gears wot.
the whole time a had problems with the tps sensor before i was claiming throttle stop problems.
problem was the most important place to make sure to make sure the tps is correct is wot.i thought it was closed.
but its not.
so my tb throotle stop adjust like a camber bolt and because i took the throttle pedal block out from under the gas pedal to get the stroke i needed to get the tb all the way open it would change wot voltage everytime.
i set tps to stock and put a piece of wood under the pedal and shaved it down to get wot so the tb's throttle stop would not take the force.
gate shifted and it shiftedd all gears.. then i ran threw the gears in drive twice and it shifted both times...
only thing left is to get thhe throttle respone from the closed side and i will be ripping.
the whole time a had problems with the tps sensor before i was claiming throttle stop problems.
problem was the most important place to make sure to make sure the tps is correct is wot.i thought it was closed.
but its not.
so my tb throotle stop adjust like a camber bolt and because i took the throttle pedal block out from under the gas pedal to get the stroke i needed to get the tb all the way open it would change wot voltage everytime.
i set tps to stock and put a piece of wood under the pedal and shaved it down to get wot so the tb's throttle stop would not take the force.
gate shifted and it shiftedd all gears.. then i ran threw the gears in drive twice and it shifted both times...
only thing left is to get thhe throttle respone from the closed side and i will be ripping.
10-26-2013, 09:56 PM
#1564
Not that i see.
I think after everytime i would set the sensor it went out of range after the first wot .
now it won't go out of range it stays where i put it.
I want to go to the track tomorrow but i don't have any nitrous.
maybe i should get up early and go get some.
I think after everytime i would set the sensor it went out of range after the first wot .
now it won't go out of range it stays where i put it.
I want to go to the track tomorrow but i don't have any nitrous.
maybe i should get up early and go get some.
Last edited by richardparker; 10-26-2013 at 10:07 PM.
10-26-2013, 10:35 PM
#1565
Not that i see.
I think after everytime i would set the sensor it went out of range after the first wot .
now it won't go out of range it stays where i put it.
I want to go to the track tomorrow but i don't have any nitrous.
maybe i should get up early and go get some.
I think after everytime i would set the sensor it went out of range after the first wot .
now it won't go out of range it stays where i put it.
I want to go to the track tomorrow but i don't have any nitrous.
maybe i should get up early and go get some.
10-27-2013, 10:57 PM
#1566
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Damn Richard got to see you run at the track today looked like you were still having the issue with the trans not shifting. I noticed you pulled out of staging and backed off the track and din't see you again, hope all is well, hate I did not get to say hey.
10-28-2013, 11:25 AM
#1568
The car definitly had the shifting issues getting stuck in 2nd.
the trans was leaking so i drove straght to the house so i could see what was up and not getting stuck at the track.
before i came to the track i put a new ground on the trans and trans fluid was leaking by the connector. that's fixed. maybe the tranny will shift again now that fixed the leak. because it was shifting before i moved the ground and the leak.
if it won't the i guess ill have to run the oem tb.
i think the quickest i ran yesterday was like 8.2 but the car is not shifting.once it shifts it will run good.
my car runs pretty good till the end of 2nd then it falls on its face
the trans was leaking so i drove straght to the house so i could see what was up and not getting stuck at the track.
before i came to the track i put a new ground on the trans and trans fluid was leaking by the connector. that's fixed. maybe the tranny will shift again now that fixed the leak. because it was shifting before i moved the ground and the leak.
if it won't the i guess ill have to run the oem tb.
i think the quickest i ran yesterday was like 8.2 but the car is not shifting.once it shifts it will run good.
my car runs pretty good till the end of 2nd then it falls on its face
10-28-2013, 07:57 PM
#1570
Not sure if it shifts early into 2nd.
I can spray first right into 2nd and there is no delay there for sure. I can't really tell if it shifts early I know it shifts spinning tires.
it shifting there wot just know where else.
coming home from the track I decided to try to stretch it legs spraying 3rd but the car is hitting the limiter at the end of 3rd too.
today for the hell of it I tried replacing the 2 speed sensors again.
Is there a way to see if the ecu is commanding the shifts or the sensors are working correctly ?
Anyway of tricking the sensors to shift at a lower rpm or increasing line pressure ?
What mph and rpm are we supposed to see when completing 3rd shift wot ?
I can spray first right into 2nd and there is no delay there for sure. I can't really tell if it shifts early I know it shifts spinning tires.
it shifting there wot just know where else.
coming home from the track I decided to try to stretch it legs spraying 3rd but the car is hitting the limiter at the end of 3rd too.
today for the hell of it I tried replacing the 2 speed sensors again.
Is there a way to see if the ecu is commanding the shifts or the sensors are working correctly ?
Anyway of tricking the sensors to shift at a lower rpm or increasing line pressure ?
What mph and rpm are we supposed to see when completing 3rd shift wot ?
10-29-2013, 12:37 AM
#1571
Yes, there are ways to work around the intended design and operation of the transmission electronics but I'm afraid you may be experiencing internal component failure due to possible weak bands or worn clutches...maybe even both. These are known issues that occur when a transmission is weakened when its subjected to severe duty conditions such as the track or power beyond design capabilities.
Lets hope NOT but it may be smart to find and consider possible replacement options for the unit itself. You could also try two things. Change the fluid over to Redline or Amsoil ATF and shifting in manual mode without any load/engine torque during gear changes. All it takes is a very brief lift of the foot (even part throttle) timed perfectly with the slight delay in gear change when the shift is made.
Lets hope NOT but it may be smart to find and consider possible replacement options for the unit itself. You could also try two things. Change the fluid over to Redline or Amsoil ATF and shifting in manual mode without any load/engine torque during gear changes. All it takes is a very brief lift of the foot (even part throttle) timed perfectly with the slight delay in gear change when the shift is made.
10-29-2013, 10:17 AM
#1572
I hope I found the issue.
Some time ago I had found a broken 3rd pressure switch.
So at that time I removed the 4th too and replaced them with 3rd and 4th from a cl trans.
Found out The arrangement of switches installed had lower pressure. I had a 27psi switch where it needed to be 33psi for 3rd.
Last chance before the trans comes out.
New 3rd and 4th pressure switches on the way.
The lower pressure switches definitely could be why its not shifting.
Some time ago I had found a broken 3rd pressure switch.
So at that time I removed the 4th too and replaced them with 3rd and 4th from a cl trans.
Found out The arrangement of switches installed had lower pressure. I had a 27psi switch where it needed to be 33psi for 3rd.
Last chance before the trans comes out.
New 3rd and 4th pressure switches on the way.
The lower pressure switches definitely could be why its not shifting.
10-30-2013, 12:24 PM
#1573
I think i just need to toss the 90tb in the trash.
installed the oem tb and it shifts wot into 3rd. Its just fuel cuts twice before 2nd shift.
Maybe just tunning the stock tps to rid that fuel cut and it will be just fine.
feel like I've been banging my head on the wall.
installed the oem tb and it shifts wot into 3rd. Its just fuel cuts twice before 2nd shift.
Maybe just tunning the stock tps to rid that fuel cut and it will be just fine.
feel like I've been banging my head on the wall.
srock tps is so easy to tune. went from .46 4.49 to
10-30-2013, 02:33 PM
#1576
it is great for everyone around me to.
I've been bullsh!t for days.
works like factory because honda tps and throttle wheel is most
Likely the same size as oem.
I will get another tb another day but i need a break from thinking about the car.
this bullshit has giving me sleepless nights and nightmares.
Going to get blazed
10-30-2013, 09:28 PM
#1577
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Damn hate you had to ditch the 90mmTB but fighting a loosing battle sucks. I watched your 8.2 pass and could hear it miss-shift 3rd, you were only at 2/3 track so that should have been real close to a 8.0 run or better had you shifted 3rd. Let me know when your heading back down.
10-31-2013, 09:37 AM
#1578
6mt swapped..smart
Your telling me.
it is great for everyone around me to.
I've been bullsh!t for days.
works like factory because honda tps and throttle wheel is most
Likely the same size as oem.
I will get another tb another day but i need a break from thinking about the car.
this bullshit has giving me sleepless nights and nightmares.
Going to get blazed
it is great for everyone around me to.
I've been bullsh!t for days.
works like factory because honda tps and throttle wheel is most
Likely the same size as oem.
I will get another tb another day but i need a break from thinking about the car.
this bullshit has giving me sleepless nights and nightmares.
Going to get blazed
I know the feeling, trust me. Well, that much better of a feeling when you finally figured it out, right? I had a feeling it had something to do with the tb/tps. I was running into similar issues with the bigger tb before I notched the tps.
11-02-2013, 01:31 PM
#1580
Well im almost sure i had. fluid issue. 2 drain and fills with the 3rd and 4th pressure swithes today and the car was spinning 1st 2nd and 3rd with no hiccups on the street tires.
i filled it about a 1/8" over the full line.
I want to tourture myself and try to put my 90mm throttlebody back on.
my wife said just throw it away she dont want to deal wit
h me.
i filled it about a 1/8" over the full line.
I want to tourture myself and try to put my 90mm throttlebody back on.
my wife said just throw it away she dont want to deal wit
h me.
11-04-2013, 11:02 AM
#1582
After countless runs up and down the road with differnt sets of tires i beleive the problem has to due with excessive wheel spin and not actual throttle position.
anytime the car spins first into 2nd it hits the limiter.
if i dont spin there it hits all gears when floored after theres no wheel spin.
next thing is to find some wider used slicks too test if im right.
anytime the car spins first into 2nd it hits the limiter.
if i dont spin there it hits all gears when floored after theres no wheel spin.
next thing is to find some wider used slicks too test if im right.
11-07-2013, 02:53 PM
#1585
pulled back from the 27's for now.
I want rpm and mph based shift points stock.
put 24.5" street tires on and it seams like it shifts a little sooner.
And I sprayed the shit out of the car spinning 1st 2nd and 3rd and it shifted 3rd spinning again.
I want to compare stock size tires shift points compared to my bigger tires. Wich are in the range of 26 1/4 -26 1/2" and I think stock is right around 25".
I'm wondering if I've went to big on the tires and maybe the car is not getting to the shift point before hitting the limiter.
With me having nothing to change shift points or moving the rev limiter I need to see if smaller tires will help.
the tires I have are 215 40 18 and it kinda hard to tell because I can not give it hardly any throttle without have the tires blaze to 7k in like 2secs.
I want rpm and mph based shift points stock.
put 24.5" street tires on and it seams like it shifts a little sooner.
And I sprayed the shit out of the car spinning 1st 2nd and 3rd and it shifted 3rd spinning again.
I want to compare stock size tires shift points compared to my bigger tires. Wich are in the range of 26 1/4 -26 1/2" and I think stock is right around 25".
I'm wondering if I've went to big on the tires and maybe the car is not getting to the shift point before hitting the limiter.
With me having nothing to change shift points or moving the rev limiter I need to see if smaller tires will help.
the tires I have are 215 40 18 and it kinda hard to tell because I can not give it hardly any throttle without have the tires blaze to 7k in like 2secs.
11-09-2013, 04:06 PM
#1586
Pretty sure i got ahold of the problem, again.
Like i havent said that before.
anyway my zex box when activated was adding .14-.15v voltage spike to the tps.
today i wired up another zex box and their is absolutly no voltage change to the tps voltage when activated.
with that being said im thinking the ramp rate of voltage from the bad zex solenoid was and is the whole problem.
i have to take apart the good one and swap pieces because their was a after market solenoid in that one and it dont reach outside the box because i had to use the pieces for something else before.
We will see,cross your fingers for me everyone.
Like i havent said that before.
anyway my zex box when activated was adding .14-.15v voltage spike to the tps.
today i wired up another zex box and their is absolutly no voltage change to the tps voltage when activated.
with that being said im thinking the ramp rate of voltage from the bad zex solenoid was and is the whole problem.
i have to take apart the good one and swap pieces because their was a after market solenoid in that one and it dont reach outside the box because i had to use the pieces for something else before.
We will see,cross your fingers for me everyone.
11-09-2013, 07:06 PM
#1587
well im at my end with this shit.
switched zex box parts still would not shift 2nd to 3rd spraying.
put it on a rpm switch no shift.
hooked the zex box directly to a switch,no shift.
dropped it down to 75shot and still no shift.
On the motor it shifts great anytime.
just no shifts on the spray. BS
I guess I have to save for a 6speed swap.
But this bullshit is making me just want to dump the car.
Car drives great,shifts great, it just don't like the spray I guess.
I wonder which would cost me more to get this auto trans setup to really drag with or the 6 speed swap.
Could this possibly be a converter issue because I have the higher stall ipt converter just sitting here ?
switched zex box parts still would not shift 2nd to 3rd spraying.
put it on a rpm switch no shift.
hooked the zex box directly to a switch,no shift.
dropped it down to 75shot and still no shift.
On the motor it shifts great anytime.
just no shifts on the spray. BS
I guess I have to save for a 6speed swap.
But this bullshit is making me just want to dump the car.
Car drives great,shifts great, it just don't like the spray I guess.
I wonder which would cost me more to get this auto trans setup to really drag with or the 6 speed swap.
Could this possibly be a converter issue because I have the higher stall ipt converter just sitting here ?
Last edited by richardparker; 11-09-2013 at 07:09 PM.
11-10-2013, 12:24 PM
#1588
Do the 2nd gens have a tcu/pcm as the 1st gens? a faulty pcm could be the cause for the torque convertor to act as its doing, as if you've reached a torque limiter.
I'll be honest, I was looking up parts for you on acuraoemparts to see if I could run across the control unit, but I had no luck finding a pcm (used other terminology to search for it as well) in the websites' parts list.
I'll be honest, I was looking up parts for you on acuraoemparts to see if I could run across the control unit, but I had no luck finding a pcm (used other terminology to search for it as well) in the websites' parts list.
Last edited by Cocoa; 11-10-2013 at 12:26 PM.
11-10-2013, 12:36 PM
#1589
Not sure ,but since im running out of option i will look into it right away.
thanks man.
i rejetted the nitrous to 55 today and same thing no 3rd on the spray.
someone told me maybe the map is seeing to much nitrous.dont know how true that maybe but i need to try something with that too
i guess.
thanks man.
i rejetted the nitrous to 55 today and same thing no 3rd on the spray.
someone told me maybe the map is seeing to much nitrous.dont know how true that maybe but i need to try something with that too
i guess.
11-10-2013, 01:20 PM
#1592
The zex kit control module would adjust the nitrous fuel enrichment so you never run too lean nor too rich. That feature alone is what makes the zex kit both safe and popular.
I highly doubt your map sensor has anything to do with it. I've run a 125 shot wet zex kit on my 3.0 and 3.5 for a total of nearly 10 years. Never had any issues that involved the map sensor. Bottle pressure was the only thing I had to deal with.
I highly doubt your map sensor has anything to do with it. I've run a 125 shot wet zex kit on my 3.0 and 3.5 for a total of nearly 10 years. Never had any issues that involved the map sensor. Bottle pressure was the only thing I had to deal with.
Last edited by Cocoa; 11-10-2013 at 01:34 PM.
11-10-2013, 06:48 PM
#1593
No go on moving the map.
ran a line 1.5ft long off one of the rear manifold ports same thing.
next weekend im going to go to the track and run 1st and 2nd on motor and spray only 3rd and see how it does.
mean time im going to try to get some bigger tires too for the hell of it.
ran a line 1.5ft long off one of the rear manifold ports same thing.
next weekend im going to go to the track and run 1st and 2nd on motor and spray only 3rd and see how it does.
mean time im going to try to get some bigger tires too for the hell of it.
Last edited by richardparker; 11-10-2013 at 06:55 PM.
11-11-2013, 11:35 AM
#1594
One more thing I have to look at.
Ever since swapping to the type s ecu I've had a p1656 "problem pcm to vsa".
I figured it was because of not having a vsa.
After reading around I seen someone saying their car would not do a 3-4 shift when they had this code.
could it be my problem, i dont know.
I have a vsa tb here.
My car has a type s ecu,and a base model harness ,how could I wire this to fix this code?
I'm thinking I should try my base ecu and put back in my tcs stuff to see if this will fix the issue. Because if it did then the pcm to vsa would be the problem.
I just don't remember what I took out the car relating to my tcs system.
Anyone know what pieces are in my BASE cl tcs system ?
Ever since swapping to the type s ecu I've had a p1656 "problem pcm to vsa".
I figured it was because of not having a vsa.
After reading around I seen someone saying their car would not do a 3-4 shift when they had this code.
could it be my problem, i dont know.
I have a vsa tb here.
My car has a type s ecu,and a base model harness ,how could I wire this to fix this code?
I'm thinking I should try my base ecu and put back in my tcs stuff to see if this will fix the issue. Because if it did then the pcm to vsa would be the problem.
I just don't remember what I took out the car relating to my tcs system.
Anyone know what pieces are in my BASE cl tcs system ?
Last edited by richardparker; 11-11-2013 at 11:41 AM.
11-11-2013, 04:46 PM
#1598
No more p1656 codes.
Still no shift on the spray even with my bottle only showing 500 psi and set to 55 shot,
and that has to be just about nothing.
On motor it rips and never misses a gear. So weird,their is no signs slipping either.
guess I should talk to some tranny guys.
Still no shift on the spray even with my bottle only showing 500 psi and set to 55 shot,
and that has to be just about nothing.
On motor it rips and never misses a gear. So weird,their is no signs slipping either.
guess I should talk to some tranny guys.
11-12-2013, 09:13 AM
#1599
When I change my trans fluid a week or so ago i could not get a trans filter anywhere around me so I did not change it.
this morning I took it out and its definitly restricted.
It took some pressure for me to suck air threw it,way more than I think it should.
Going to make a 40min ride to go get one today.
this morning I took it out and its definitly restricted.
It took some pressure for me to suck air threw it,way more than I think it should.
Going to make a 40min ride to go get one today.
11-12-2013, 11:59 AM
#1600
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Haven't been on here in a few days hate to see your still catching hell with the tranny!! hope the filter solves the problem, but it seems like it you had flow restrictions that it would give trouble all the time.