Started on some in home porting
05-26-2013, 07:09 AM
#1403
Taking it to the extreme. 
Further than I will go. Do you still drive it on the street? What are your impressions of how the car feels with weight removed? Cornering and braking impressions?
I am at the point where the rear is so light and all the weight is up front. I do not really want to remove any more weight from the rear. I would rather try to find ways to transfer that weight to the rear. Only thing I can really think of is battery tho. Otherwise I probably need to get rear suspension revalved for the lower weight.
This probably doesn't affect you if it is just a drag car. More weight up front means more traction.
Further than I will go. Do you still drive it on the street? What are your impressions of how the car feels with weight removed? Cornering and braking impressions?I am at the point where the rear is so light and all the weight is up front. I do not really want to remove any more weight from the rear. I would rather try to find ways to transfer that weight to the rear. Only thing I can really think of is battery tho. Otherwise I probably need to get rear suspension revalved for the lower weight.
This probably doesn't affect you if it is just a drag car. More weight up front means more traction.
Last edited by brian6speed; 05-26-2013 at 07:15 AM.
05-26-2013, 07:52 AM
#1404
Taking it to the extreme. Further than I will go. Do you still drive it on the street? What are your impressions of how the car feels with weight removed? Cornering and braking impressions?
I am at the point where the rear is so light and all the weight is up front. I do not really want to remove any more weight from the rear. I would rather try to find ways to transfer that weight to the rear. Only thing I can really think of is battery tho. Otherwise I probably need to get rear suspension revalved for the lower weight.
This probably doesn't affect you if it is just a drag car. More weight up front means more traction.
Further than I will go. Do you still drive it on the street? What are your impressions of how the car feels with weight removed? Cornering and braking impressions?I am at the point where the rear is so light and all the weight is up front. I do not really want to remove any more weight from the rear. I would rather try to find ways to transfer that weight to the rear. Only thing I can really think of is battery tho. Otherwise I probably need to get rear suspension revalved for the lower weight.
This probably doesn't affect you if it is just a drag car. More weight up front means more traction.
I do still drive it on the street but,only within a couple miles.Going to run errands,pay bills,or get gas or when I get the feeling to do a couple quick pulls or a little tire spinning.
The car is getting fast and brakes a little quicker,I really don't dig taking fast turns on the street that leads to off the road accidents,I'm sure it will go around conners better than stock.
It may sound crazy but as light as it is now a swear I can feel a difference with every 10lbs I remove.
This car will be scary compared to stock if I was to add some sort of FI.
And you know I'm looking at option because weight removal is starting to get scarce
05-26-2013, 08:11 AM
#1405
I have never lost control or went off road from taking a corner. The car is very predictable and I can tell when I am coming up to the limits of traction. The fwd makes it easier since you don't really lose the rear end. Even if you do lose the rear, apply a little power and the front brings the rear back in line.
I do know some people with rwd sport cars that have lost control taking corners/off ramps on the street though.
I love the sensation you get from the lateral g loads and pushing to the limits of grip.
I do know some people with rwd sport cars that have lost control taking corners/off ramps on the street though.
I love the sensation you get from the lateral g loads and pushing to the limits of grip.
05-26-2013, 04:52 PM
#1406
I really think my single 2.5 crush bent exhaust is hurting me.
Since I had it installed I've only been able to get 86mph traps where before I was getting high 87-88mph.
I only got 2 runs in today.
!st run 8.50 86mph 2.05 60ft at 25psi
tire pressure went up to 27psi after the run.dropped air to 24psi
2nd run 8.40 86mph 1.97 60ft at 24psi
adjusted the air pressure again to 23psi and sat in line for a hour and just left.
my 330 ft times are a consistint .1-.15 slower than before I changed the exhaust even with the better 60ft.
Thinking about going bigger or getting a cutout or just a turn down before any of the crushed pipe to rule out that is taking my power before I think the motor is loosing power.
Since I had it installed I've only been able to get 86mph traps where before I was getting high 87-88mph.
I only got 2 runs in today.
!st run 8.50 86mph 2.05 60ft at 25psi
tire pressure went up to 27psi after the run.dropped air to 24psi
2nd run 8.40 86mph 1.97 60ft at 24psi
adjusted the air pressure again to 23psi and sat in line for a hour and just left.
my 330 ft times are a consistint .1-.15 slower than before I changed the exhaust even with the better 60ft.
Thinking about going bigger or getting a cutout or just a turn down before any of the crushed pipe to rule out that is taking my power before I think the motor is loosing power.
Last edited by richardparker; 05-26-2013 at 05:03 PM.
05-26-2013, 05:27 PM
#1407
All motor
Told you to get a 3" 
8.4 @86 is still fast though. Don't be discouraged. But I understand all too well going to the track and being disappointed not besting your time.
8.4 @86 is still fast though. Don't be discouraged. But I understand all too well going to the track and being disappointed not besting your time.
05-26-2013, 08:39 PM
#1409
A little let down because I think i should've done better but, just went for a pizza run and just punked a newer stang with all kinds of add on body parts.
I followed him and rode next to him in 2nd.With both stopped at a light I rode off slow got to 2nd and rode next to him at about 35mph in 2nd and keep staying next to him instigating waiting for him to go because his car looked like he might want to.
He went,then put a fender on me because i let him go first. I must have put 2-3 cars on him easy before I hit 3rd.flashed my brakes to let him know he took the loss.
A little let down today,But now chomping some pizza and I punked that stang.
I followed him and rode next to him in 2nd.With both stopped at a light I rode off slow got to 2nd and rode next to him at about 35mph in 2nd and keep staying next to him instigating waiting for him to go because his car looked like he might want to.
He went,then put a fender on me because i let him go first. I must have put 2-3 cars on him easy before I hit 3rd.flashed my brakes to let him know he took the loss.
A little let down today,But now chomping some pizza and I punked that stang.
05-29-2013, 12:43 PM
#1410
So Just for the hell of it I measured the whole exhaust I cutout in various spots to see the differences.
The exhaust before the resonator was no smaller than 2.3 at bends at straights varied 2.5-2.6.
The single setup I had made after the resonator was at 1.9 at both turns to the tip. most likely giving my 1.75 id if that because the crush bends he did gave 4 crush marks to the pipe not only 2.
I would have to say this is why I had loss and not improvements.
Even with the way the stock Y was cut before it was 2.5 pipe into the (2) 1 7/8 stock Y pipes to 2 1/4 pipes off of those. The stock Y flowed more the way he cut it down
I chopped the cat and I think I will start from there back with single 3 off of my cat with mandrel turns in the back, that should be fine.
The exhaust I removed weighed 22lbs.
Who makes lighter 3" pipes and mandrel bends ?
The exhaust before the resonator was no smaller than 2.3 at bends at straights varied 2.5-2.6.
The single setup I had made after the resonator was at 1.9 at both turns to the tip. most likely giving my 1.75 id if that because the crush bends he did gave 4 crush marks to the pipe not only 2.
I would have to say this is why I had loss and not improvements.
Even with the way the stock Y was cut before it was 2.5 pipe into the (2) 1 7/8 stock Y pipes to 2 1/4 pipes off of those. The stock Y flowed more the way he cut it down
I chopped the cat and I think I will start from there back with single 3 off of my cat with mandrel turns in the back, that should be fine.
The exhaust I removed weighed 22lbs.
Who makes lighter 3" pipes and mandrel bends ?
Last edited by richardparker; 05-29-2013 at 12:49 PM.
05-31-2013, 04:28 PM
#1411
Got 3" aluminum pipe and piece's picked out along with a vibrant aluminum race muffler.
I've been calling around and can't find anyone yet that will do it for me,so caught in limbo on the purchase.
It should weigh 10-12lbs from the cat back.
I've been calling around and can't find anyone yet that will do it for me,so caught in limbo on the purchase.
It should weigh 10-12lbs from the cat back.
06-01-2013, 09:35 PM
#1413
Got most my kit back in today.
Drove around trying to find a tap so I could put the nozzle in my intake but could not find one.
That's all I have left to do.
I had it set where I was going to do a 65 shot.
But,before I got a chance to put in the nozzle jet I lost it.
Bottle is over a year old and is only showing 875-900psi.I'm going to put in 100shot jets and it will most likely do only a 65 shot anyway.
I'm going to leave the bottle in the sun all day till I go to the track to get higher psi.
Maybe I can get a couple of shots out of it.
Just got to brainstorm a way to mount the nozzle.
Slicks,headers and cat only and a little juice and I should either get some good times or bust.
Drove around trying to find a tap so I could put the nozzle in my intake but could not find one.
That's all I have left to do.
I had it set where I was going to do a 65 shot.
But,before I got a chance to put in the nozzle jet I lost it.
Bottle is over a year old and is only showing 875-900psi.I'm going to put in 100shot jets and it will most likely do only a 65 shot anyway.
I'm going to leave the bottle in the sun all day till I go to the track to get higher psi.
Maybe I can get a couple of shots out of it.
Just got to brainstorm a way to mount the nozzle.
Slicks,headers and cat only and a little juice and I should either get some good times or bust.
06-02-2013, 02:04 PM
#1414
Rushed today to get to the track.
Got there and no one was there and it was thundering so I just went to run with the street tires.
spun off the line,tb was f'n up again. sprayed towards the end of 2nd hit the limiter let off,it grabbed 3rd and I sprayed again.
Total crappy run then it started to rain before I could adjust the throttle stop.
But still managed 8.3 at 91mph.
Once I can get a good run in with the slicks it will be running sub 8 seconds in the 1/8 no problem.
I say better than 93mph too.
And the funny thing is the bottle was only showing 850psi so it was a lazy hit of the juice.
Got there and no one was there and it was thundering so I just went to run with the street tires.
spun off the line,tb was f'n up again. sprayed towards the end of 2nd hit the limiter let off,it grabbed 3rd and I sprayed again.
Total crappy run then it started to rain before I could adjust the throttle stop.
But still managed 8.3 at 91mph.
Once I can get a good run in with the slicks it will be running sub 8 seconds in the 1/8 no problem.
I say better than 93mph too.
And the funny thing is the bottle was only showing 850psi so it was a lazy hit of the juice.
06-03-2013, 08:52 AM
#1415
All motor
Not bad. I'm sure the 85 degree temps didn't help either. In the fall I have no doubts you will be pushing 95+ in the 1/8th and running upper 7s.
Good purchase on the 3" exhaust. 2.3" before the cat is no good. And what is this? You still have a cat? Dude get a 3" test pipe and delete that, that's holding you back as well.
Good purchase on the 3" exhaust. 2.3" before the cat is no good. And what is this? You still have a cat? Dude get a 3" test pipe and delete that, that's holding you back as well.
06-03-2013, 10:02 AM
#1416
I should leave the cat as it will help not bend my valves from running a open header till I get the exhaust.
I did not order the exhaust yet the only shop I found is about 1.5hrs away and from what I'm told they will charge me out the @ss.
I'm thinking I maybe better off getting a bottle warmer first.
Just found out my problem why I keep pushing the throttle stop back.
Since I flipped everything in the 90mm throttle body to work and pull from the front every once in a while the return spring was getting caught against the throttle stop pushing it further out.
And further out I'm hitting the limiter and not being able to get out of 2nd WOT.
So today that return spring is coming out to avoid this,I just hope the screw that hold the throttle stop is not stripped.
I got a universal return spring kit for a carburetor that has a handful of sizes.
I'm going to try to mount them right to the throttle wheel and rid the binding and excessive throttle pull.
The car is crazy fast now.
On the heavy wheels I spun 10-15ft,I let off for like 1 sec and maybe sprayed for 3 seconds total and still ran 8.3 at 91mph.
after I let off and hit it again, I'm guessing at 75mph,it had torque steer and swayed and I had to hold on. I was not use to that at those speeds.
I did not order the exhaust yet the only shop I found is about 1.5hrs away and from what I'm told they will charge me out the @ss.
I'm thinking I maybe better off getting a bottle warmer first.
Just found out my problem why I keep pushing the throttle stop back.
Since I flipped everything in the 90mm throttle body to work and pull from the front every once in a while the return spring was getting caught against the throttle stop pushing it further out.
And further out I'm hitting the limiter and not being able to get out of 2nd WOT.
So today that return spring is coming out to avoid this,I just hope the screw that hold the throttle stop is not stripped.
I got a universal return spring kit for a carburetor that has a handful of sizes.
I'm going to try to mount them right to the throttle wheel and rid the binding and excessive throttle pull.
The car is crazy fast now.
On the heavy wheels I spun 10-15ft,I let off for like 1 sec and maybe sprayed for 3 seconds total and still ran 8.3 at 91mph.
after I let off and hit it again, I'm guessing at 75mph,it had torque steer and swayed and I had to hold on. I was not use to that at those speeds.
06-05-2013, 07:31 AM
#1427
That's the car only,
With my slicks on it the car will weigh just about 2600lbs.
so ,from a 3500lb car that's around 900lbs lighter and it's going to get lighter.
Light weight rear wheels will put me in the 2500lb zone.
hitting the nitrous on the fly is fast.
With my slicks on it the car will weigh just about 2600lbs.
so ,from a 3500lb car that's around 900lbs lighter and it's going to get lighter.
Light weight rear wheels will put me in the 2500lb zone.
hitting the nitrous on the fly is fast.
06-05-2013, 08:02 AM
#1428
6mt swapped..smart
Obviously you don't daily this car like many of us, myself inlcuded. What would you say would be the biggest weight savers that wouldn't affect any of the essential factory features for many of us such as heat & a/c..? So far i've removed spare tire & tools, both tq dampers, cruise control, back seat, passenger seat (track only), and ditched stock hood for a cf one. I'll tell you though, between you and Brian, you're both making me want to join this Jenny Craig diet plan lol. Keep it up!
Last edited by AnthraciteTypeS; 06-05-2013 at 08:04 AM.
06-06-2013, 01:43 PM
#1431
All motor
Pretty soon you're gonna start stripping paint for an oz. Lol.
I didn't see the weight, but from your post I'm assuming 26xx? That's crazy. I was going to guess 2740, but 26xx is insane. You're almost 600lbs lighter than my car lol.
I didn't see the weight, but from your post I'm assuming 26xx? That's crazy. I was going to guess 2740, but 26xx is insane. You're almost 600lbs lighter than my car lol.
06-06-2013, 02:09 PM
#1432
Not to piss on your parade but 2660lbs is very light. Most scrap metal places scales are setup in their favor so they make the extra $$$. I have a friend that works at one so trust me on that. I would use a set of corner balance scales or a scale at a track for a more accurate weight. My car was practically full weight when I went to the track last season minus the spare tire/jack and bias slicks mounted on oem 02 cl-p wheels in the front with 18' a specs in the rear and it weighed 3325lbs. That's a 665lbs difference lol!!
Regardless I'm sure you have the lightest cl ever lol!!! Keep up the good work!!
Regardless I'm sure you have the lightest cl ever lol!!! Keep up the good work!!
06-06-2013, 04:16 PM
#1433
Not to piss on your parade but 2660lbs is very light. Most scrap metal places scales are setup in their favor so they make the extra $$$. I have a friend that works at one so trust me on that. I would use a set of corner balance scales or a scale at a track for a more accurate weight. My car was practically full weight when I went to the track last season minus the spare tire/jack and bias slicks mounted on oem 02 cl-p wheels in the front with 18' a specs in the rear and it weighed 3325lbs. That's a 665lbs difference lol!!
Regardless I'm sure you have the lightest cl ever lol!!! Keep up the good work!!
Regardless I'm sure you have the lightest cl ever lol!!! Keep up the good work!!
Trying, I would love to get to 2500 even.
What are your skinny wheels and tires weighing ?
Last edited by richardparker; 06-06-2013 at 04:20 PM.
06-06-2013, 06:09 PM
#1434
here's today's loss. -3.5lbs
2" holes and the visor,rear veiw,and some other wire that goes to the back harness.
No holes are where they're structural welds or where interior panels will re attach that's why they don't look like nice lines.
2" holes and the visor,rear veiw,and some other wire that goes to the back harness.
No holes are where they're structural welds or where interior panels will re attach that's why they don't look like nice lines.
06-07-2013, 08:35 AM
#1435
Well it has to be close because I weigh between 188-190 on different days, and when I rolled on the scales it was fluctulating 2860-2840.When I weighed the car by itself it weighed 2660. So I guess it weighs by 20lb increments. and with it bouncing from 2860 to 2840 I'd say it was right on.
Trying, I would love to get to 2500 even.
What are your skinny wheels and tires weighing ?
Trying, I would love to get to 2500 even.
What are your skinny wheels and tires weighing ?
I never weighed my drag wheel/tire combo yet.
06-07-2013, 12:02 PM
#1436
6mt swapped..smart
Don't take this the wrong way, but is it really worth it to swiss cheese the whole car for a mere 3lbs? Seems a little overkill but hey, doubt you ever plan to sell the car so I guess it doesnt matter LOL
06-07-2013, 02:56 PM
#1437
I think between some more holes and some other metal pieces I have lined up I think I can get another 5-7lbs of metal out and still be able to put interior panels back on.
I still have a one spot of deadener in the back and the piece by the ecu so that will be 1 more pound.
After that it will be only little things,custom things,a super light weight seat,glass and rear wheel/tire setup to drop weight.
sure wish I could buy fiber glass doors that did not have one off prices.
Some people drive their car and have days where their car seams not to perform the same everyday.
Just imagine everytime you drove the car it got better in every way performance wise.
That's what happens when you remove weight every day.
Trying to pick out skinny wheels and tires as I'm posting this.
Had a sitter last night but track was rained out.
It's looking like the rain will hold off tonight for import night but,I can't find a sitter and I just filled my bottle today too
Last edited by richardparker; 06-07-2013 at 03:01 PM.
06-09-2013, 12:21 PM
#1439
I guess I was not meant to go to the track today.
last night I went to put my seat belt retractor back in And it would not unroll just tighten till it's almost as tight as it can go.
Messed with that for 30 minutes.
Then swaped in the passenger one.
Then I was taking a metal piece off the floor under the gas pedal and blew my nitrous switch some how. got a new a and fixed that this morning because I was messing with wires in the dark.
Then today AGAIN, after sitting my bottle in the sun. I installed it. first time ever the bottle had 1100 psi.The line had a tight bend about 4-6" right off the bottle. I tried to turn the bottle to relieve the tight bend and POW blew out the line.
I'm not going to the track to run all motor again,just totally let down that I can't run the nitrous.
Maybe it's a good thing but,someone was stacking the deck against me that's for sure.
last night I went to put my seat belt retractor back in And it would not unroll just tighten till it's almost as tight as it can go.
Messed with that for 30 minutes.
Then swaped in the passenger one.
Then I was taking a metal piece off the floor under the gas pedal and blew my nitrous switch some how. got a new a and fixed that this morning because I was messing with wires in the dark.
Then today AGAIN, after sitting my bottle in the sun. I installed it. first time ever the bottle had 1100 psi.The line had a tight bend about 4-6" right off the bottle. I tried to turn the bottle to relieve the tight bend and POW blew out the line.
I'm not going to the track to run all motor again,just totally let down that I can't run the nitrous.
Maybe it's a good thing but,someone was stacking the deck against me that's for sure.
