Started on some in home porting
01-23-2013, 10:18 AM
#1162
Home porting is not free I guess.
I did not wear glasses the whole time and got a piece in the eye and did not even know till late last night.
could'nt get it out and went to the hospital because it was bothering me so bad I did not want to open my eye.
They used some sort of electric grinding thing and got it out.
Now my eye is really irritated.
When the hospital bill comes I might have to add that to the cost of my headers.
I did not wear glasses the whole time and got a piece in the eye and did not even know till late last night.
could'nt get it out and went to the hospital because it was bothering me so bad I did not want to open my eye.
They used some sort of electric grinding thing and got it out.
Now my eye is really irritated.
When the hospital bill comes I might have to add that to the cost of my headers.
01-23-2013, 02:24 PM
#1163
All motor
4+ MPH lost? Wtf? It feels okay though? 4MPH is huge....
Damn man, sorry to hear about your eye. Why wouldn't you wear glasses when grinding metal though? Hope your eye gets better.
Damn man, sorry to hear about your eye. Why wouldn't you wear glasses when grinding metal though? Hope your eye gets better.
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richardparker (01-23-2013)
01-23-2013, 06:22 PM
#1164
it was running 86 mph.
and just with just about a 40lb loss it should've picked up a mph or two.
The car seams to run hard. 2 gear can get a little steering wheel gripy sometimes.
it did still run a faster et with the 4 mph loss.
when i was traping 86 I had my other headers on that were gasket matched.
slower trap runs i did not have gasket matched headers on.
Now that my new headers are matched and back on I'm hoping that I can get some power back.
yea, dumb to grind stuff without glass.
they said i'll be good in a couple days.Thank god it was not in a spot that would block my vision. they like shaved my eye in a spot to get it out.
Wearing the wifes sun glasses because light is horrible right now.
and just with just about a 40lb loss it should've picked up a mph or two.
The car seams to run hard. 2 gear can get a little steering wheel gripy sometimes.
it did still run a faster et with the 4 mph loss.
when i was traping 86 I had my other headers on that were gasket matched.
slower trap runs i did not have gasket matched headers on.
Now that my new headers are matched and back on I'm hoping that I can get some power back.
yea, dumb to grind stuff without glass.
they said i'll be good in a couple days.Thank god it was not in a spot that would block my vision. they like shaved my eye in a spot to get it out.
Wearing the wifes sun glasses because light is horrible right now.
01-24-2013, 09:15 AM
#1165
All motor
Glad they said you should be alright.
4MPH is a lot man. I'd have to think it's more than just the port matched flange on the headers. And a reduction of 40lbs may net you 0.5 MPH max, not 1-2.
4MPH is a lot man. I'd have to think it's more than just the port matched flange on the headers. And a reduction of 40lbs may net you 0.5 MPH max, not 1-2.
01-24-2013, 11:47 AM
#1166
I've done more trying to tune the car with tps,fuel pressure and idle speed.
I did find one burn out moment after I came back from the track.
I had the car the way I wanted it. Then before I left I decided to add another 50rpm to my idle speed and that actually changed my tps rest voltage again.
had it set and .49 and when I got back and looked everything over it was at .61 wich will take the performance away.
all set again and did the headers so we'll see.
I think the car is in the need of bigger injectors also.
at idle the car shows it's adding 18-20% fuel with the stock injectors at 60psi. I can get 10% @ 62psi. the car needs like 64psi to be good.
64psi is a bit much for the stock injectors I'm guessing.
So I think 15-20% larger injectors will be my next move.I will also be able to get the fuel pressure down and not being near maxxing the injectors.
I did find one burn out moment after I came back from the track.
I had the car the way I wanted it. Then before I left I decided to add another 50rpm to my idle speed and that actually changed my tps rest voltage again.
had it set and .49 and when I got back and looked everything over it was at .61 wich will take the performance away.
all set again and did the headers so we'll see.
I think the car is in the need of bigger injectors also.
at idle the car shows it's adding 18-20% fuel with the stock injectors at 60psi. I can get 10% @ 62psi. the car needs like 64psi to be good.
64psi is a bit much for the stock injectors I'm guessing.
So I think 15-20% larger injectors will be my next move.I will also be able to get the fuel pressure down and not being near maxxing the injectors.
01-24-2013, 04:12 PM
#1168
All motor
Changing the idle speed will affect performance? Is that via the TPS screw or whatever on the TB?
01-24-2013, 05:46 PM
#1169
If you change the idle position it will change tps resting voltage/position too.
Pedal bracket bent.
Now I'm finally reaching WOT.
closed 9.8%
I can go 100% but Throttle stopped at 92%
Getting cold and dark so that's good enough till tomorrow and then I'll look at the WOT voltage.
Pedal bracket bent.
Now I'm finally reaching WOT.
closed 9.8%
I can go 100% but Throttle stopped at 92%
Getting cold and dark so that's good enough till tomorrow and then I'll look at the WOT voltage.
01-26-2013, 11:25 AM
#1170
Made more adjustments this morning and just came back from a ride.
Drivability/light throttle has improved so much that I don't ever remember the car ever pulling so easy with so little pedal.
I was around town so their was no WOT runs but,It definitly feels like I added a new performance piece when easy on the throttle,WOT it's got to boogie now.
Also I've been wondering if the fuel filter might've helped.
As of now tps is .47 rest and 4.72 WOT. I might have to mod my throttle stop I just made today if 4.72v is too much for WOT.
The way it drives so far I think it's fine.
Drivability/light throttle has improved so much that I don't ever remember the car ever pulling so easy with so little pedal.
I was around town so their was no WOT runs but,It definitly feels like I added a new performance piece when easy on the throttle,WOT it's got to boogie now.
Also I've been wondering if the fuel filter might've helped.
As of now tps is .47 rest and 4.72 WOT. I might have to mod my throttle stop I just made today if 4.72v is too much for WOT.
The way it drives so far I think it's fine.
01-27-2013, 07:06 PM
#1171
Went to the track today.
Plaged from the start. First run throttle stop bent. And was cutting fuel when I would press the pedal. Didn't bring any tools so I ran back to the house I balled some sound deadener under the pedal and tried to getto set my 4.5 wot voltage.
Went back to the track to see if the correct 4.5v would help.
Everytime I pushed the pedal to the floor it would change and I would have to back out of the throttle not to make it go over 4.5 making it fuel cut.
And I could not get good traction either in the low 40's.
So I had to baby it off the line not to spin and not put my foot to the floor or I would just go slower cutting fuel.
I am going to take my time and get the TB right before the next time I go.
These are my best one's today.
I was running my 86mph traps again. today was my highest mph trap of 86.975
Plaged from the start. First run throttle stop bent. And was cutting fuel when I would press the pedal. Didn't bring any tools so I ran back to the house I balled some sound deadener under the pedal and tried to getto set my 4.5 wot voltage.
Went back to the track to see if the correct 4.5v would help.
Everytime I pushed the pedal to the floor it would change and I would have to back out of the throttle not to make it go over 4.5 making it fuel cut.
And I could not get good traction either in the low 40's.
So I had to baby it off the line not to spin and not put my foot to the floor or I would just go slower cutting fuel.
I am going to take my time and get the TB right before the next time I go.
These are my best one's today.
I was running my 86mph traps again. today was my highest mph trap of 86.975
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01-28-2013, 02:18 PM
#1172
Some drilling and taping for a throttle stop and TB/TPS are on the money now.
Fuel is good too. First time ever my afr went right to target upon cold start.
Also short and long fuel trims Both started at 0 and went only as high as +4. For me thats unheard of .
.47 closed
4.49 WOT
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1foxbody (01-28-2013)
01-30-2013, 04:10 PM
#1175
No big updates but, I got 3 more lbs of weight out of the car today. Got the rest of the inside fire wall deader under the drivers side out today.
1 neon tube,and the old fuel realy and braket I left in when I swaped the new fuel realy.
Also put my braillie on a charger after one year dead and so far it's taking the charge.
That's 7lbs lighter than the lightest wallmart battery I could find with over 500cca that im running now.
Should be another 10lbs lighter tomorrow.
Also eye balling all the fire wall deader behind the heater box all the way up to the top of the dash.
I have never removed the heater box or the whole dash but,the deadener is obviously dead weight.
Anyone removed these pieces and can share exp. with removing and reinstalling, that would be great.
I don't want to remove stuff that I will have a problem trying to reinstall.
1 neon tube,and the old fuel realy and braket I left in when I swaped the new fuel realy.
Also put my braillie on a charger after one year dead and so far it's taking the charge.
That's 7lbs lighter than the lightest wallmart battery I could find with over 500cca that im running now.
Should be another 10lbs lighter tomorrow.
Also eye balling all the fire wall deader behind the heater box all the way up to the top of the dash.
I have never removed the heater box or the whole dash but,the deadener is obviously dead weight.
Anyone removed these pieces and can share exp. with removing and reinstalling, that would be great.
I don't want to remove stuff that I will have a problem trying to reinstall.
01-31-2013, 09:03 AM
#1176
Senior Moderator
Removing the dash itself isnt hard if you have a 2nd person to help you lift it out of the car. There is just a lot to unplug and a few hidden bolts.
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01-31-2013, 11:39 AM
#1177
^
thanks alot man.
Finnally got some real street tunning time in.
Best performance for my car is
tps .39 closed 4.52 wot
fuel pressure 64psi
afr seeing target at idle
afr wot goes 13.5 ,13.1 with peaks to 12.5
it's pulling pretty dam good now. I took a ride to a more country area and was doing some wot 50 to 100mph runs and it pulled hard the whole time.
Also my down shifts from drive (35mph) going wot are slamming me back in my seat.I've never felt that before that hard.
The first time it kind of spooked me.
I have a feeling I will be seeing my fastest et's next time I go to the track.
thanks alot man.
Finnally got some real street tunning time in.
Best performance for my car is
tps .39 closed 4.52 wot
fuel pressure 64psi
afr seeing target at idle
afr wot goes 13.5 ,13.1 with peaks to 12.5
it's pulling pretty dam good now. I took a ride to a more country area and was doing some wot 50 to 100mph runs and it pulled hard the whole time.
Also my down shifts from drive (35mph) going wot are slamming me back in my seat.I've never felt that before that hard.
The first time it kind of spooked me.
I have a feeling I will be seeing my fastest et's next time I go to the track.
01-31-2013, 11:50 AM
#1178
All motor
Good stuff man. 86-87 in the 1/8th is moving. Your 60' seem to be solid as well, with most @ 2.1x. Nice work. Question...I never messed with the idle screw on my 09 TL throttle body. Should I assume the ECU corrected for the voltage? Or should I change it? Dom has PM'd me and is helping me, just want to make sure I am doing it right.
01-31-2013, 12:31 PM
#1179
If your TB is factory and came with a TPS already mounted then most likely you don't have to touch it.
As long as it see's 4.5v WOT then it's good for WOT.
The closed number is how soon and how much the fuel comes into play from what I take of it.
with my tps set at .37 it's adding 7.1% at idle.
At one time it was as high as 12% percent but, off idle suffered.
Someone else might be able to explain it better.I just figured this stuff as I go between a wideband,scanner,and a multimeter.
Today was the first day I got a couple hours with no fam and some street time
Hope a can rip a 8.3 but,my magic ball is telling me 8.4's this weekend
As long as it see's 4.5v WOT then it's good for WOT.
The closed number is how soon and how much the fuel comes into play from what I take of it.
with my tps set at .37 it's adding 7.1% at idle.
At one time it was as high as 12% percent but, off idle suffered.
Someone else might be able to explain it better.I just figured this stuff as I go between a wideband,scanner,and a multimeter.
Today was the first day I got a couple hours with no fam and some street time
Hope a can rip a 8.3 but,my magic ball is telling me 8.4's this weekend
02-01-2013, 12:54 PM
#1182
I am assuming you removed the dash? Did you do it by yourself, and how hard was it to remove and reinstall. Are you gonna reinstall blower box?
I want to remove my dash to get all that foam out plus some extra wiring.
I want to remove my dash to get all that foam out plus some extra wiring.
02-01-2013, 01:57 PM
#1183
Senior Moderator
Its not hard. I pasted the instructions above. Ive had mine out a couple times now, I can do it in under 30 min now.
02-01-2013, 03:32 PM
#1184
02-01-2013, 03:48 PM
#1185
I did not go as far as removing the dash "yet".
Just got the 2 boxes out to just get the passenger side deadener all out.Will I ? Most likely,I got to get out all the deadener.
I plan atleast leaving them out for the weekend but,then again that's what I have said to myself about everything I've already removed.
Just got the 2 boxes out to just get the passenger side deadener all out.Will I ? Most likely,I got to get out all the deadener.
I plan atleast leaving them out for the weekend but,then again that's what I have said to myself about everything I've already removed.
02-02-2013, 01:29 PM
#1188
Senior Moderator
And i also posted my experience saying its wasnt hard, just a lot to unplug and unbolt. I have taken mine out by myself, its not hard, just awkward but much easier to do with an extra set of hands.
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02-02-2013, 01:55 PM
#1190
Whats up with RDX owners?
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02-02-2013, 04:22 PM
#1192
I don't ever just sit still burning the tires.
I have street tires.
I just hit the gas to about 5k let off and give another quick pump to shake the water off the tires.
That's all they need.
Explanation would be weight loss nothing more.
My car does not need a hand brake till it's time for inspection atleast but,I will be doing the hand brake swap before then.
If you want to be the fastest you got to remove pieces others wouldn't.
I have street tires.
I just hit the gas to about 5k let off and give another quick pump to shake the water off the tires.
That's all they need.
My car does not need a hand brake till it's time for inspection atleast but,I will be doing the hand brake swap before then.
If you want to be the fastest you got to remove pieces others wouldn't.
02-02-2013, 04:41 PM
#1193
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Shit, if you want to get crazy with the weight rip the shoes and springs out of the rear brakes as well, and just run a hydraulic handbrake or even a line lock on the rear lines if you need it to pass inspection.
02-03-2013, 03:27 PM
#1194
Waste today.first 5 runs the was cutting fuel and I was not able to get into 3rd. Just about every car I lined up against I got them off the line Then it was all she wrote when I could not get into 3rd.
Shortened up my throttle stop then I was getting into 3rd but other than my 60ft times being 2.0's all other times sucked bad.the car feels real strong so I'm confused.
Back to the drawing board I guess.mathematically there's no way I should be slower with all the weight I taken out.going to go over everything again to see if there's any problems.I did not bring my multi meter so I could not change tips resting position to sde if it would make a difference guess I should have. Need some tunning for sure.
Shortened up my throttle stop then I was getting into 3rd but other than my 60ft times being 2.0's all other times sucked bad.the car feels real strong so I'm confused.
Back to the drawing board I guess.mathematically there's no way I should be slower with all the weight I taken out.going to go over everything again to see if there's any problems.I did not bring my multi meter so I could not change tips resting position to sde if it would make a difference guess I should have. Need some tunning for sure.
02-05-2013, 02:52 PM
#1195
After countless 2nd to 3rd WOT runs I got the car going to 3rd everytime now.
Trying oem spec's would not take for either side closed,tip in or wot.
So I just deceided to just adjust to how the car runs.not by spec.
To shift WOT voltage has to be 4.40v
While maintaining the 4.40 WOT I just keep adjusting closed side for best drivability and now that's at .55v
Is it as good as it once was,who knows but the car is ripping.
Also I feel like I learned some magic.
My agm braillie was dead with 0v after a draining and sat for a year.
On 2 differnt chargers I could only get it to 10.5v.
I found a post that said you can bring back agm batterys by hooking up a 2nd battery with jumpers so the charger see's over 12v and it will charge.
So I did and the battery had a 12.1v charge in 4 hours.
I didn't know how far to push the agm voltage so I stopped there.
Let it sit over night and before I installed the battery it read 11.94v.
It started the car the first crank and also seamed to crank the car faster at 11.9 than the battery I took out that showed 12.3
I guess I'm going to just have to top it off now.
Another 8.2lbs lost today with battery swap.
Trying oem spec's would not take for either side closed,tip in or wot.
So I just deceided to just adjust to how the car runs.not by spec.
To shift WOT voltage has to be 4.40v
While maintaining the 4.40 WOT I just keep adjusting closed side for best drivability and now that's at .55v
Is it as good as it once was,who knows but the car is ripping.
Also I feel like I learned some magic.
My agm braillie was dead with 0v after a draining and sat for a year.
On 2 differnt chargers I could only get it to 10.5v.
I found a post that said you can bring back agm batterys by hooking up a 2nd battery with jumpers so the charger see's over 12v and it will charge.
So I did and the battery had a 12.1v charge in 4 hours.
I didn't know how far to push the agm voltage so I stopped there.
Let it sit over night and before I installed the battery it read 11.94v.
It started the car the first crank and also seamed to crank the car faster at 11.9 than the battery I took out that showed 12.3
I guess I'm going to just have to top it off now.
Another 8.2lbs lost today with battery swap.
02-09-2013, 11:05 AM
#1198
I want to lose as much as possible and still be able to retrn it back to stock fairly easy.
Throttle body is 90mm. It might be a bit much.
Did some street driving today after the valve adjust and performance seems to have increased.Exhaust note sounds better at idle.
Can't wait till tomorrow.
Seams like it's been forever to get below 8.5
Throttle body is 90mm. It might be a bit much.
Did some street driving today after the valve adjust and performance seems to have increased.Exhaust note sounds better at idle.
Can't wait till tomorrow.
Seams like it's been forever to get below 8.5
1.9's on street tires.