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Old May 26, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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dsmn right about that, I can't even peal the tires out from a standstill with the 245 series rubber and warmer temprature. I need a little power off the line dammit. if anybody can find a good mechanic in the NY area, let me know. Might have to find an acura mechanic to do this.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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my shop can handle it. www.rpmnyc.com

thinjim - thanks for clarifying. but if you run the part numbers, they are exactly the same. the valve springs and retainer springs are exact part numbers. the exhaust valve springs are slightly different, but there is no change in exhaust lift. i'm getting confused.

typeR - exactly, i'm not looking for peak power with cams, i'm looking for low end. the car will bite off the line not typical of a FWD application.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by typeR
unlikely but possible would probablly have to turn 8.5K rpms
I hit 271 without any internal work... 300whp is very possible with the 3.2L.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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wish I could be the guinea pig for this...

someone do it and check out the gains
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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allmotor - what were your mods for 271 n/a whp? i followed your progress closely using the search, but your posts go from n/a to your turbo project quickly, maybe i missed something?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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I'm just curious can you swap in these cams if you have a UR crank pulley? I don't want to sound like a noob but would this mess up the timing if you didn't use the stock crank pulley?
The cams are not connected to the same section of the crankshaft as the crank pulley so it's a non issue.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 03:36 AM
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rtatsutani - glad to see you, ever get your issues sorted out?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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allmotor - what were your mods for 271 n/a whp? i followed your progress closely using the search, but your posts go from n/a to your turbo project quickly, maybe i missed something?
Ported intake manifold and custom 75mm TB. Short-ram cold-air intake, Comptech headers, Comptech flywheel and clutch, open-exhaust, fuel-pressure modifications.

The car was pretty even with a stock M3 coupe once its rolling, of course. I busted my clutch at the drag-strip running a 13.5 @ 103 or something. The car was capable of 105-106. If you go figure out the power needed for the weight of the car, its around 275whp.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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The oil eating issues are still around but more reaching typeR's levels. I currently am eating about 1/2 a quart every 400 miles or so. It seems like as my mileage goes up, the oil consumption goes down, typical of a new motor i guess. Cars running great though and still have no dynos Money's tight now since I have a side biz thing coming up, but I wanna do it soon though to see why my FP has dropped to ~ 35 psi and ask them why the heck i smell oil all the time.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:18 AM
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our vavlve springs were engineered to take the 7100 rpm fuel cut of the 36.389 lobe
Damn, so we have fuel cut off as opposed to spark cut off? I asked this in another thread, but was never answered. Seems like you answered my question.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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Damn, so we have fuel cut off as opposed to spark cut off? I asked this in another thread, but was never answered. Seems like you answered my question.
we have both
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Old May 30, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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Think this mod would have more gains in a non type S CL or TL?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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it's all relative, you may see a bigger jump in terms of numbers vs. a type S, but you will probably still be making less power than a type S w/ the same mods, but this might give you a big edge over type S without the cams.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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Its very unlikely you're going to have an advantage over a J32A2 (Type-S) by installing these cams.

The J32A1 still has lower compression and a lower redline......
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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I mean, if someone were to install type S cams on a P, they would gain some power, but if they install RL cams on a P, they should gain a lot more power IMO...sound right?
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Old May 31, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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in short, yes.

as far as i know, i havent seen any 'specific' gains yet. we can only guess until either i, thinjim, or johntypes posts up a dyno. i think we are the only 3 actually in the midst of install. my guess is that john will be the first to post a dyno, he is just doing the cams. which will actually be a very good comparison because he still has the regular 3.2 and then i will have the 3.5.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Awsome John, I am assuming that since I have the CL type S cams in my 3.0 Accord that the RL cams would fit in my car too.................


Any track trips planned anytime soon? Im dying and the Sonor kid wants to go too.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Ill be ordering the Cams next week will let you known price first and availble
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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If a company was to make a performance camshaft for the 3.5 RL I guess it could also fit our CL ? ..... I tried to search the web but I couldn't find any. I know spoon tricked out an RL but there was no engine modification...sucks...

man I'm really anxious to hear feedback from you about this .......
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by banana
If a company was to make a performance camshaft for the 3.5 RL I guess it could also fit our CL ? ..... I tried to search the web but I couldn't find any. I know spoon tricked out an RL but there was no engine modification...sucks...

man I'm really anxious to hear feedback from you about this .......

Don't waste your time looking. We tried this many times and unfortunately there was not enough interest from the manufacturers.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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john, have you had time to buy the cams yet?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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NO But serge did he is putting them in next week,I will post for him or he will he also is dyno before and after
I had some house expence come up
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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So does anyone know for sure if these RL cams will fit a J30 because this is very interesting to me I'd love to get some more low end hp. Also does anyone now a good site online to buy these RL cams or even some CL-S cams?
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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i MAY have the car back by the end of next week. but i'm doubtful.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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My '06 RL cams coming on Friday with scheduled installation late next week. Will report the fitment which should be fine.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Is all you need to do this mod the RL front and rear cams? New valve springs needed? Would RL pistons/rods help out or gain more power? How many hours of labor would be expected and how hard is this installation?
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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thinking .....

should I get the RL cams on my new motor ...decisions!

Good luck Serge!
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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Is all you need to do this mod the RL front and rear cams? New valve springs needed? Would RL pistons/rods help out or gain more power? How many hours of labor would be expected and how hard is this installation?

probably a lot of labor involved in swapping out pistons/rods and if you did you would still have the weaker sleeves that j32a1 has.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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Good luck Serge !
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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probably a lot of labor involved in swapping out pistons/rods and if you did you would still have the weaker sleeves that j32a1 has.
weaker sleeves? i thought the bottom end is the same amongst all the motors, except for the brand new RL bottom end. even then, i don't know how much stronger the sleeves are.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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From what I was told, the sleeves from the J32a1 and J32a2 block are completely different. When they pull my J32a1 out, I'll take pics of my j32a2 block and j32a1 block to compare.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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what about tuning it with the NEO or vafc2? Is that needed?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Ok, so whats up with this. Does anyone have an update, I am eagerly waiting to see what the results are.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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If my car were running yet after my 6 speed swap (almost is- waiting on a O2 sensor) i would buy them and install them. I still may.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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I'm waiting for an opening in the bills so I can order them.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Received my RL cams and they look like a direct fit. The PRI/SEC lobe height are a tad larger than CL-S and that's what we need - more lift.

Pics time:




The installation has been rescheduled for next Tuesday. Then dyno follows in a week or so.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Isnt this gonna cause a dip in our RPM's at idle?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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i thought we established they are a direct fit, this is not the quesiton. the question is what will the gains be? and primary / secondary are the only differences.

if anything, a TINY lope, nothing noticeable, but i doubt you would notice.

what you will notice is a bigger grunt on the low end. maybe when we hit the 4th gear wall now it won't be so bad.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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I feel you on that, but isnt it proporitonal, the bigger the horsepower gain the more of a blip there is gonna be. I know its a direct fit, thats not the issue that I was bringing up.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pits200
I feel you on that, but isnt it proporitonal, the bigger the horsepower gain the more of a blip there is gonna be. I know its a direct fit, thats not the issue that I was bringing up.
the car should act just like the RL...think it has a rough idle?
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