Optimum RPM Range.
#1
Optimum RPM Range.
I'm curious - I've encountered people that don't believe you can shift CL S AT 5sp into third gear at highway speeds, let alone pull up past 110mph. Have any other people tried this? I had to go through a little experimentation just to see how this SS would react. When I tried to downshift into 3rd above 80mph it just wouldn't go. the digital readout read "3" but it blinked until I slowed down to about 75mph, then it shifted into 3rd where I strongly shot up to 110mph before shifting up to 4th.
#4
Originally Posted by USURPER
I'm curious - I've encountered people that don't believe you can shift CL S AT 5sp into third gear at highway speeds, let alone pull up past 110mph. Have any other people tried this? I had to go through a little experimentation just to see how this SS would react. When I tried to downshift into 3rd above 80mph it just wouldn't go. the digital readout read "3" but it blinked until I slowed down to about 75mph, then it shifted into 3rd where I strongly shot up to 110mph before shifting up to 4th.
Yes, you can pull your car to 110 mph (and slightly over) in 3rd gear before revving out (redlining) the engine. This is all in my CL-P not a type-S.
With that being said, maybe it's because I got the PCM upgrade and P/R. Maybe the people who say that you can't get the CL to 110mph in 3rd gear don't have the upgrade...
I don't know, I just know that it is true...
#5
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Make sure to let off the gas, then it thinks you are slowing down. Then it will go in. Mine would go into 3rd in SS at around 90-95 while letting off the gas before hand.
#6
Originally Posted by redsly
You can down shift into third in Shity Shift mode after your car drops under 99mph unless your gate shifting, then you can as long as your not red lining. It won't down shift in D unless you are under 80 mph. When the gear indicator flashes, it's the computer telling you that you cannot shift into that gear. If your car slows enough before the flashing stops, it will down shift into the gear that you wanted it to.
Yes, you can pull your car to 110 mph (and slightly over) in 3rd gear before revving out (redlining) the engine. This is all in my CL-P not a type-S.
With that being said, maybe it's because I got the PCM upgrade and P/R. Maybe the people who say that you can't get the CL to 110mph in 3rd gear don't have the upgrade...
I don't know, I just know that it is true...
Yes, you can pull your car to 110 mph (and slightly over) in 3rd gear before revving out (redlining) the engine. This is all in my CL-P not a type-S.
With that being said, maybe it's because I got the PCM upgrade and P/R. Maybe the people who say that you can't get the CL to 110mph in 3rd gear don't have the upgrade...
I don't know, I just know that it is true...
#7
Originally Posted by vibe
you can go up to 93 mph in 3rd, switching to 3rd at higher speeds wont work, it'll just stay in 4th
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#8
Originally Posted by USURPER
I tried it. The max speed the car will accept dropping into 3rd is 85mph but you gotta lift off the gas and wait a second. I tapped the shifter twice and the digital readout went blank, then blinked "3" two times, then locked into 3rd.
#9
Originally Posted by USURPER
Aaaaah! I had been doing that all along- slowing down before downshifting to 3rd. Great minds think alike. But what I'm trying to figure out how some of these people think it's impossible to hit 110mph in 3rd - I'm sitting in my car in the top of third gear and the needle is hitting 110mph.
Originally Posted by USURPER
I tried it. The max speed the car will accept dropping into 3rd is 85mph but you gotta lift off the gas and wait a second. I tapped the shifter twice and the digital readout went blank, then blinked "3" two times, then locked into 3rd.
#10
Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Most wont go near that in auto mode, but you can get there in SS or by gate shifting and holding it there till redline (or around 110)
Yes while going WOT, but if you slightly let off the gas and use SS it should downshift into 3rd at speed above 85 (mine did up to close to 95)
Yes while going WOT, but if you slightly let off the gas and use SS it should downshift into 3rd at speed above 85 (mine did up to close to 95)
#11
I also heard that some of the cars are different after having their tranny replaced. I heard the ECU of a replaced tranny will have slightly different shift points after tranny replacement and not be able to downshift as easily in SS mode to an extreme RPM range.
#12
Originally Posted by USURPER
I tried it. The max speed the car will accept dropping into 3rd is 85mph but you gotta lift off the gas and wait a second. I tapped the shifter twice and the digital readout went blank, then blinked "3" two times, then locked into 3rd.
what i meant was, you redline at 93 mph in 3rd....or thats what its supposed to be atleast
#15
He doesnt mean that the car can't go over 93 in third. All he means is that if you are going 93.1mph in 4th gear and try downshifting into 3rd, all the car will do is blink the number 4 on the dash. Its just the way the sentence sounds that it seems like he meant it can't go over 93.
#16
Originally Posted by pits200
He doesnt mean that the car can't go over 93 in third. All he means is that if you are going 93.1mph in 4th gear and try downshifting into 3rd, all the car will do is blink the number 4 on the dash. Its just the way the sentence sounds that it seems like he meant it can't go over 93.
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#17
Originally Posted by pits200
I also heard that some of the cars are different after having their tranny replaced. I heard the ECU of a replaced tranny will have slightly different shift points after tranny replacement and not be able to downshift as easily in SS mode to an extreme RPM range.
#18
Originally Posted by pits200
He doesnt mean that the car can't go over 93 in third. All he means is that if you are going 93.1mph in 4th gear and try downshifting into 3rd, all the car will do is blink the number 4 on the dash. Its just the way the sentence sounds that it seems like he meant it can't go over 93.
#19
Ok...
The following is what happens in my '01 CL-P (Type-S shifts are different)
1) The car CAN go up to 110 mph in third gear
2) The CL-P will not down shift into 3rd gear using SS until you are going under 99 mph (post PCM & P/R upgrade with replaced tranny, pre PCM & P/R is 93 mph)
3) The CL-S will not shift from 4th to 3rd in SS until you are going under 104 mph (pre PCM & P/R)
4) The gear indicator (SS mode) will flash 3 times and if you slow to the reuired max speed before it stops flashing, it will down shift
5) The car will not shift from 4th to 3rd gear in D5 over 80 mph unless you let up on the gas a little to slow to 80 mph first
6) The transmission will not shift down in SS mode if it will make your engine exceed the redline
7) The PCM (what gets upgraded when transmission is replaced) controls the transmission, not the ECU. The PCM upgrade changes the shift patterns
The 93 mph post was about how the PCM will not allow the tansmission to shift into 3rd from 4th prior to having your PCM upgraded. He probably got this information from the Owner's Manual, which is prior to the upgrade.
Here is a picture of it
The following is what happens in my '01 CL-P (Type-S shifts are different)
1) The car CAN go up to 110 mph in third gear
2) The CL-P will not down shift into 3rd gear using SS until you are going under 99 mph (post PCM & P/R upgrade with replaced tranny, pre PCM & P/R is 93 mph)
3) The CL-S will not shift from 4th to 3rd in SS until you are going under 104 mph (pre PCM & P/R)
4) The gear indicator (SS mode) will flash 3 times and if you slow to the reuired max speed before it stops flashing, it will down shift
5) The car will not shift from 4th to 3rd gear in D5 over 80 mph unless you let up on the gas a little to slow to 80 mph first
6) The transmission will not shift down in SS mode if it will make your engine exceed the redline
7) The PCM (what gets upgraded when transmission is replaced) controls the transmission, not the ECU. The PCM upgrade changes the shift patterns
The 93 mph post was about how the PCM will not allow the tansmission to shift into 3rd from 4th prior to having your PCM upgraded. He probably got this information from the Owner's Manual, which is prior to the upgrade.
Here is a picture of it
#23
Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
i say let someone who lives in a snowy area go test this out and report back
that way we can find out how well it works along with the VSA and SRS system (whe they crash)
that way we can find out how well it works along with the VSA and SRS system (whe they crash)
Actually, one day I tested the VSA during a hard rain. I floored it up a steep hill with water streaming down the road like Niagra Falls - the wheels lost traction for a second but you could hear the VSA react and the car just surged forward without any waivering. Without VSA the car would have definately spun out and headed into a tree. I did the same thing in the same spot in my mom's 2005 Pathfinder and that thing fishtailed like crazy. I had to ease off of the accelerator to keep from completely losing the rear end.
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