OBX Headers here .... {PICS GALORE}
09-05-2002 | 10:03 PM
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OBX Headers here .... {PICS GALORE}
Hey all, well the headers came today. I am taking a bunch of pictures right now!! Should be here in a second!
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09-05-2002 | 11:25 PM
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Thanks for the pics………FINALLY. 
The only concern I can see right away from them is that the flanges are MUCH thicker for some reason.
I hope the stock studs are long enough to allow you to get the locknuts on.
And I think the reason they give you gaskets is because it doesn’t look like the face of the manifolds are machined.
That saves a quite a few bucks and helps explain some of the price difference.
Shawn S
The only concern I can see right away from them is that the flanges are MUCH thicker for some reason.
I hope the stock studs are long enough to allow you to get the locknuts on.
And I think the reason they give you gaskets is because it doesn’t look like the face of the manifolds are machined.
That saves a quite a few bucks and helps explain some of the price difference.
Shawn S
09-05-2002 | 11:47 PM
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Damn, nice... mine should be here this Monday!.... I am happy I ordered the OBX headers and saved $500.
Comptech can eat its crap... No one with his sound mind can justify the $500 surchage for the Comptech Headers.
Rag, (FLAME Suit is on):
This is THE PROOF that Comptech were ripping off every one who bought their headers. If OBX can make these headers and their retailers are selling those for $499 shipped and making a PROFIT. I can say either Comptech is BIGGEST Inefficient makers AND/OR the most BSer in the industry... Yeah they had to jack up the price of headers from $1099 to $1299 because of the rise of cost of energy? where is ENRON? does Comptech has anything to do with collapse of ENRON?
Assuming Comptech is selling their headers for their retailers for $850, I think they were making an easy $500-$600 per unit. Or %200+ markup....
Again, I am glad I waited for a Comptech Knock off for 50% discounted price. I hopped for the Prototype Headers but the wait was too long!
Comptech can eat its crap... No one with his sound mind can justify the $500 surchage for the Comptech Headers.
Rag, (FLAME Suit is on):
This is THE PROOF that Comptech were ripping off every one who bought their headers. If OBX can make these headers and their retailers are selling those for $499 shipped and making a PROFIT. I can say either Comptech is BIGGEST Inefficient makers AND/OR the most BSer in the industry... Yeah they had to jack up the price of headers from $1099 to $1299 because of the rise of cost of energy? where is ENRON? does Comptech has anything to do with collapse of ENRON?
Assuming Comptech is selling their headers for their retailers for $850, I think they were making an easy $500-$600 per unit. Or %200+ markup....
Again, I am glad I waited for a Comptech Knock off for 50% discounted price. I hopped for the Prototype Headers but the wait was too long!
09-05-2002 | 11:55 PM
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the obx look aight, but they are no comptech that's for sure. look at the welds and the flanges. the welds on comptech headers are perfect and uniform.
comptechs are expensive but just like anything else you get what you pay for.
p.s. - where are the obx made?
comptechs are expensive but just like anything else you get what you pay for.
p.s. - where are the obx made?
09-06-2002 | 09:30 AM
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You can't compare CT and OBX. Comptech R and D'd this header design and got it C.A.R.B. exempt. That takes time and money. It is much easier and cheaper to copy (rip off) the design after it is known to work. An analogy is generic drugs. They are much cheaper than the original.
09-06-2002 | 09:36 AM
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Yep, that was my first impression also! These things are damn light and look tight as hell! If you want more pics of the things before installation let me know and Ill snap a few of whatever area you want. Install should be very soon!
You gotta have faith my good man! I noticed the same thing about the flanges. Did anyone want to post a pic of the comptechs for reference? Also, I feel better with having a nice gasket in between a thick flange and my exaust ports because of the vibration issue but thats just me. And that does not make up for the $500 price diff and you know it :P
Mmmmmmmh mmmmm 
You can imagine how I feel .... talk about WORTH THE WAIT so far. And so far I agree with the comptech bashing statements and bless these headers!
Yes the do look good but dont make any decisions yet until the dyno cause I wanna prove this to everyone! OBX is made near the outer banks just like it says. 
again, dont make any decisions yet until I PROVE that these suckers crank out more power than the coptechs.
Sorry bud if it seemed like I was awoiding this question. Let me talk to Bucky @ OBX and Ill let you know, ok?
Seriously, if you want more pics just let me know just let me know what you want me to take them of and Ill hook it up ASAP. Dyno is coming very soon as my car just got back from its scheduled maintinence.
DO NOT ORDER YET I mean you can if you like but I really think you should wait for the DYNO!!!!
Preliminary graphs show about 3 more hp than CT downlow and thats just where I want it!
If you guys got any more questions let me know!
AdamR
Originally posted by dajuice27
BOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UUNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was my release!
Install 'em and show us more pics!
BOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UUNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was my release!
Install 'em and show us more pics!
Originally posted by Shawn S
Thanks for the pics………FINALLY.
The only concern I can see right away from them is that the flanges are MUCH thicker for some reason.
I hope the stock studs are long enough to allow you to get the locknuts on.
And I think the reason they give you gaskets is because it doesn’t look like the face of the manifolds are machined.
That saves a quite a few bucks and helps explain some of the price difference.
Shawn S
Thanks for the pics………FINALLY.
The only concern I can see right away from them is that the flanges are MUCH thicker for some reason.
I hope the stock studs are long enough to allow you to get the locknuts on.
And I think the reason they give you gaskets is because it doesn’t look like the face of the manifolds are machined.
That saves a quite a few bucks and helps explain some of the price difference.
Shawn S
You can imagine how I feel .... talk about WORTH THE WAIT so far. And so far I agree with the comptech bashing statements and bless these headers!
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Damn, nice... mine should be here this Monday!.... I am happy I ordered the OBX headers and saved $500.
Comptech can eat its crap... No one with his sound mind can justify the $500 surchage for the Comptech Headers.
Rag, (FLAME Suit is on):
This is THE PROOF that Comptech were ripping off every one who bought their headers. If OBX can make these headers and their retailers are selling those for $499 shipped and making a PROFIT. I can say either Comptech is BIGGEST Inefficient makers AND/OR the most BSer in the industry... Yeah they had to jack up the price of headers from $1099 to $1299 because of the rise of cost of energy? where is ENRON? does Comptech has anything to do with collapse of ENRON?
Assuming Comptech is selling their headers for their retailers for $850, I think they were making an easy $500-$600 per unit. Or %200+ markup....
Again, I am glad I waited for a Comptech Knock off for 50% discounted price. I hopped for the Prototype Headers but the wait was too long!
Damn, nice... mine should be here this Monday!.... I am happy I ordered the OBX headers and saved $500.
Comptech can eat its crap... No one with his sound mind can justify the $500 surchage for the Comptech Headers.
Rag, (FLAME Suit is on):
This is THE PROOF that Comptech were ripping off every one who bought their headers. If OBX can make these headers and their retailers are selling those for $499 shipped and making a PROFIT. I can say either Comptech is BIGGEST Inefficient makers AND/OR the most BSer in the industry... Yeah they had to jack up the price of headers from $1099 to $1299 because of the rise of cost of energy? where is ENRON? does Comptech has anything to do with collapse of ENRON?
Assuming Comptech is selling their headers for their retailers for $850, I think they were making an easy $500-$600 per unit. Or %200+ markup....
Again, I am glad I waited for a Comptech Knock off for 50% discounted price. I hopped for the Prototype Headers but the wait was too long!
Originally posted by mattg
the obx look aight, but they are no comptech that's for sure. look at the welds and the flanges. the welds on comptech headers are perfect and uniform.
comptechs are expensive but just like anything else you get what you pay for.
p.s. - where are the obx made?
the obx look aight, but they are no comptech that's for sure. look at the welds and the flanges. the welds on comptech headers are perfect and uniform.
comptechs are expensive but just like anything else you get what you pay for.
p.s. - where are the obx made?
Originally posted by SFLA_Type-S
Wow those headers look amazing
I regret paying full price for the Comptech Headers.
DYNO, DYNO, DYNO, PLEASE!!!!
Wow those headers look amazing
I regret paying full price for the Comptech Headers.
DYNO, DYNO, DYNO, PLEASE!!!!
Originally posted by 99CL
THe obx would fit the 99 3.0 right guys?? seem like nobody wants to answer my question to this,.....
THe obx would fit the 99 3.0 right guys?? seem like nobody wants to answer my question to this,.....
Originally posted by fastfour
[B]I think we need to see a couple more pics Get it dynoed would ya???[B]
[B]I think we need to see a couple more pics Get it dynoed would ya???[B]
Originally posted by fbazakos
[B]how do you order?[B]
[B]how do you order?[B]
Originally posted by oonowindoo
[B]do u guys think it s gonna have the same gain on HP as Comptech? if it will.. i will order mine Now! hahaha[B]
[B]do u guys think it s gonna have the same gain on HP as Comptech? if it will.. i will order mine Now! hahaha[B]
AdamR
09-06-2002 | 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by fbazakos
how do you order?
how do you order?
I recieved mine... thanks to the quick shipping an excellent service.. and FedEx was 3 days ahead of the delivery schedule.
Just for the Record, early next week (Monday?)... I will be installing the headers and do dyno before and after on my CLS... The dyno is paid by www.ssautochrome.com ...
Very much apperciated and Kudos for Bucky at www.ssautochrome.com !!!
09-06-2002 | 09:51 AM
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Jason, Gains are supposed to be similar to comptech - even a little more - and the price.... well, thats the icing ............. $500!
AdamR
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Originally posted by JasonT
How much are these? Where can I get them? Are they the same gains as the Comptech's? Sorry I've been away for a week. Man so much happens in a week
How much are these? Where can I get them? Are they the same gains as the Comptech's? Sorry I've been away for a week. Man so much happens in a week
09-06-2002 | 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by digitalgm
If you guys got any more questions let me know!
If you guys got any more questions let me know!
The Comptech’s are ground smooth in there and I’m wondering if these are.
That’s another step that may have been left out to save money.
Originally posted by digitalgm
And that does not make up for the $500 price diff and you know it.
And that does not make up for the $500 price diff and you know it.
Shop machining cost is about 80-100 dollars an hour and you need to include tooling setup time in that too.
Shawn S
09-06-2002 | 10:11 AM
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Already got a pic of that - take a look
... Ill go ahead and measure that for you just as soon as I get home - I am at work right now fighting with acura on the phone.... bah! Hey man, where did you get that kick ass avatar from? Got any more? 
... Ill go ahead and measure that for you just as soon as I get home - I am at work right now fighting with acura on the phone.... bah! Hey man, where did you get that kick ass avatar from? Got any more?
Originally posted by Shawn S
Measure the thickness on the manifold flanges and see if you can get a photo looking up INSIDE the manifold where the three pipes are welded together.
The Comptech’s are ground smooth in there and I’m wondering if these are.
That’s another step that may have been left out to save money.
I know the machining won’t make up the ENTIRE 500-dollar difference, but I would guess they saved 150 to 175 or more by avoiding that process.
Shop machining cost is about 80-100 dollars an hour and you need to include tooling setup time in that too.
Shawn S
Measure the thickness on the manifold flanges and see if you can get a photo looking up INSIDE the manifold where the three pipes are welded together.
The Comptech’s are ground smooth in there and I’m wondering if these are.
That’s another step that may have been left out to save money.
I know the machining won’t make up the ENTIRE 500-dollar difference, but I would guess they saved 150 to 175 or more by avoiding that process.
Shop machining cost is about 80-100 dollars an hour and you need to include tooling setup time in that too.
Shawn S
09-06-2002 | 10:12 AM
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UPDATE FOR YOU 99CL
I emailed this to you as well but just incase you dont check it that often ...
I talked to Bucky at OBX and he said he does not know if they will fit or not. Do the comptechs fit your car?
AdamR
I emailed this to you as well but just incase you dont check it that often ...
I talked to Bucky at OBX and he said he does not know if they will fit or not. Do the comptechs fit your car?
AdamR
09-06-2002 | 10:29 AM
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Haha you must have been reading my mind. I was thinking about taking my dremel tool and seeing if I can smooth out those joints. The welding looks like it should hold well enough so I just might do that. Good call 
AdamR
AdamR
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Digitalgm, Do you think some kind of polishing (using a rotor brush ) is need or helps?
Digitalgm, Do you think some kind of polishing (using a rotor brush ) is need or helps?
09-06-2002 | 10:30 AM
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From what I have heard on the First Gen page. Some people said they will fit with no problem, but ohters say it would not. That's why I want to find out, cause these OBX are for a GREAT price...
Originally posted by digitalgm
UPDATE FOR YOU 99CL
I emailed this to you as well but just incase you dont check it that often ...
I talked to Bucky at OBX and he said he does not know if they will fit or not. Do the comptechs fit your car?
AdamR
UPDATE FOR YOU 99CL
I emailed this to you as well but just incase you dont check it that often ...
I talked to Bucky at OBX and he said he does not know if they will fit or not. Do the comptechs fit your car?
AdamR
09-06-2002 | 11:54 AM
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Well, what many people are probably going to do is have the dealer install them or a performance shop in the area. If you choose to do it yourself like me, you can follow my detailed installation article which I will be doing soon!
AdamR
AdamR
Originally posted by Ashburner
Do you have to install them yourself? If so, I'm screwed... I don't even know how to open my hood.
-Ash
Do you have to install them yourself? If so, I'm screwed... I don't even know how to open my hood.
-Ash
09-06-2002 | 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by digitalgm
Well, what many people are probably going to do is have the dealer install them or a performance shop in the area. If you choose to do it yourself like me, you can follow my detailed installation article which I will be doing soon!
AdamR
Well, what many people are probably going to do is have the dealer install them or a performance shop in the area. If you choose to do it yourself like me, you can follow my detailed installation article which I will be doing soon!
AdamR