The motor mount thread
#42
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As for the tranny mounts there are no plans that I know of to make a performance tranny mounts. And once we get some good motor mounts I'm not sure we need them . . . do you? is this more a 6spd need?
#43
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Not sure how useful the tranny mounts are, but in my eyes, the more the merrier.
And to the fitment issues. But Im sure it will get rectified, and hopefully in a timely manner.
And to the fitment issues. But Im sure it will get rectified, and hopefully in a timely manner.
#47
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^ . . still playing phone tag with the vendor . .
BTW . . forgot to mention that I swapped out the Innovative front mount bushings in the 3rd gen design . . . they finally gave out. This set up lasted just over 1yr, much longer than the 1st & 2nd gen design bushings did . . they lasted 1 month or less. I had some of the black bushings from a previous test and am trying them out. I like the feel of the traction better . . . almost no wheel hop . . . but boy did it spin the tires. As easy as the front is to swap out I wouldn't mind changing the bushings every year . . a lot cheaper than new mounts every 6-12 months. I'll post some pics and share some more thoughts on the 3rd gen design in a few days . . . got a lot going on.
Ruf
BTW . . forgot to mention that I swapped out the Innovative front mount bushings in the 3rd gen design . . . they finally gave out. This set up lasted just over 1yr, much longer than the 1st & 2nd gen design bushings did . . they lasted 1 month or less. I had some of the black bushings from a previous test and am trying them out. I like the feel of the traction better . . . almost no wheel hop . . . but boy did it spin the tires. As easy as the front is to swap out I wouldn't mind changing the bushings every year . . a lot cheaper than new mounts every 6-12 months. I'll post some pics and share some more thoughts on the 3rd gen design in a few days . . . got a lot going on.
Ruf
#49
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And while I'm out here a quick update . . well there is no update. The last time the mfg tried to call me was Friday the 23rd . . and I was on a road trip and didn't have my notes with me anyway they were supposed to call me back and . . well nothing yet. I let Excelerate know that so we'll see what comes of it . . the waiting game continues. SIGH
Ruf
#51
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Keep us posted
#52
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Once again, no news. I've asked Excelerate for a bit more help getting the manufacturer and I connected.
On a side note, I mentioned back on 4/22 I swapped out the red bushings for the black bushings in the 3rd gen mount design because the red bushings failed after 1 year. I think the blacks will last longer, but without a small design change they'll eventually fail as well. The good news . . . there is almost ZERO wheel hop . . never felt better, so I feel we're on the right track in that department. However, I want to see how it works on a sticky race track when the tires get much more of a bite.
Ruf
On a side note, I mentioned back on 4/22 I swapped out the red bushings for the black bushings in the 3rd gen mount design because the red bushings failed after 1 year. I think the blacks will last longer, but without a small design change they'll eventually fail as well. The good news . . . there is almost ZERO wheel hop . . never felt better, so I feel we're on the right track in that department. However, I want to see how it works on a sticky race track when the tires get much more of a bite.
Ruf
#54
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Anyone for a little update?
Good news is that the manufacturer and I have been talking. And having talked with them I'm feeling much better that they want to fix our mount problem. I also feel better about their technical knowledge about mount designs and their desire to understand our problems and what we'd like out of a performance mount. Basically there's a big difference between dealing with this manufacturer and Innovative in that Innovative never really "discussed" the problems and what types of mount designs will do what . . . and in their willingness to talk with us and not treat us as dumb car owners.
Anyway, the bad news is that we'll probably have at least one more prototype version to test, so we won't have a real mount for at least another month and probably a bit longer.
Note, having spent over 2 years with two different manufacturers, this is really a difficult problem as the overall Honda/Acura design limits more traditional design options.
Ruf
Good news is that the manufacturer and I have been talking. And having talked with them I'm feeling much better that they want to fix our mount problem. I also feel better about their technical knowledge about mount designs and their desire to understand our problems and what we'd like out of a performance mount. Basically there's a big difference between dealing with this manufacturer and Innovative in that Innovative never really "discussed" the problems and what types of mount designs will do what . . . and in their willingness to talk with us and not treat us as dumb car owners.
Anyway, the bad news is that we'll probably have at least one more prototype version to test, so we won't have a real mount for at least another month and probably a bit longer.
Note, having spent over 2 years with two different manufacturers, this is really a difficult problem as the overall Honda/Acura design limits more traditional design options.
Ruf
#56
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Anyone for a little update?
Good news is that the manufacturer and I have been talking. And having talked with them I'm feeling much better that they want to fix our mount problem. I also feel better about their technical knowledge about mount designs and their desire to understand our problems and what we'd like out of a performance mount. Basically there's a big difference between dealing with this manufacturer and Innovative in that Innovative never really "discussed" the problems and what types of mount designs will do what . . . and in their willingness to talk with us and not treat us as dumb car owners.
Anyway, the bad news is that we'll probably have at least one more prototype version to test, so we won't have a real mount for at least another month and probably a bit longer.
Note, having spent over 2 years with two different manufacturers, this is really a difficult problem as the overall Honda/Acura design limits more traditional design options.
Ruf
Good news is that the manufacturer and I have been talking. And having talked with them I'm feeling much better that they want to fix our mount problem. I also feel better about their technical knowledge about mount designs and their desire to understand our problems and what we'd like out of a performance mount. Basically there's a big difference between dealing with this manufacturer and Innovative in that Innovative never really "discussed" the problems and what types of mount designs will do what . . . and in their willingness to talk with us and not treat us as dumb car owners.
Anyway, the bad news is that we'll probably have at least one more prototype version to test, so we won't have a real mount for at least another month and probably a bit longer.
Note, having spent over 2 years with two different manufacturers, this is really a difficult problem as the overall Honda/Acura design limits more traditional design options.
Ruf
If they still need a 6MT to test, I can send them my old broken poly-filled rear mount so they can reverse engineer it. Im going with 94A on the pass side and rear mount this time as the 80A didn't hold up.
#57
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I hate the front mount design (and rear for the autos). Keep us updated.
If they still need a 6MT to test, I can send them my old broken poly-filled rear mount so they can reverse engineer it. Im going with 94A on the pass side and rear mount this time as the 80A didn't hold up.
If they still need a 6MT to test, I can send them my old broken poly-filled rear mount so they can reverse engineer it. Im going with 94A on the pass side and rear mount this time as the 80A didn't hold up.
Sorry to hear that the poly didn't last longer . . so far it seams that nothing is last longer than about 1 year.
Ruf
#59
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Thanks for chiming in Josh. At this point we'd like periodic updates as soon as you or Mark receive them even if the update is that there's no update.
#60
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I'll be taking a week vacation so I'll check back with the manufacturer when I return . . .
Ruf
#62
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Vacation? WTF? No, no, no, no, no. NO vacation for you. There are motor mounts to work on
#63
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#67
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ok we might be able to get all technical and say that it does decrease whp, because the angles on the axles with the cv axles has increased, which takes more power to spin, but then again it could easily improve the angles also, so kinda pointless to argue about that point
#68
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Im going to argue about it anyway
If the rear or front mounts were broken, then the motor is banging around under the hood.
Go take a socket wrench and try turning a bolt. Easy, right? Now put two universals and move your hand up and down as you try to turn that bolt. You can't put the same amount of torque on it.
If the rear or front mounts were broken, then the motor is banging around under the hood.
Go take a socket wrench and try turning a bolt. Easy, right? Now put two universals and move your hand up and down as you try to turn that bolt. You can't put the same amount of torque on it.
#70
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Im going to argue about it anyway
If the rear or front mounts were broken, then the motor is banging around under the hood.
Go take a socket wrench and try turning a bolt. Easy, right? Now put two universals and move your hand up and down as you try to turn that bolt. You can't put the same amount of torque on it.
If the rear or front mounts were broken, then the motor is banging around under the hood.
Go take a socket wrench and try turning a bolt. Easy, right? Now put two universals and move your hand up and down as you try to turn that bolt. You can't put the same amount of torque on it.
and as far as the cv axles taking more power to spin, it actually might improve and take less power to spin depends on what mount is shot along with how badly
and btw you are F***ing a SICKO
#71
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#72
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Star Date: 07/09/2010
The manufacturer has completed the redesign and is expected to ship as soon as they've signed off with Excelerate. I will be given an update once the mounts have shipped.
Ruf
The manufacturer has completed the redesign and is expected to ship as soon as they've signed off with Excelerate. I will be given an update once the mounts have shipped.
Ruf
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#75
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#78
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#79
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Well . . . it's been a bit more than a week and I still haven't received a shipping confirmation from the manufacturer to either Excelerate or me . . . sigh.
I did PM Excelerate to give him a heads up so hopefully we'll have some response this coming week.
Ruf
I did PM Excelerate to give him a heads up so hopefully we'll have some response this coming week.
Ruf