I am thinking of droping my car but have a system coming in later on. I have a set of H&R Racing springs, 2.5" front/1.75" rear. And I was thinking what is gonna happen if I am running droped in the rear with an additional 400lbs over the rear axle.

Should I keep the stock springs in the rear? Should I change the recomended H&R Racing spring for the rear to a stiffer on and possibly no drop?

What should I do guys?




Juker008

 

you could just go with a spring that doesn't lower the car as much, and maybe add shocks?

or you could go with coilovers, and depending on the weight of the car in the back after the install of your stereo, adjust the height of the coilover so it makes your car look level.

 

Probably a stupid question but...........how do u adjust the coilovers?? Is it simple to do?

 

hey juker, can you post pic of your ride with the race springs on?

 

are you putting cement in your trunk?

 

I think it's relatively simple to adjust the fronts, but to get to the backs you gotta remove the rear seat.

 

to adjust the damping yes, but not to adjust height.

 

to adjust the height on coilovers, all you do is use the special tool that comes with the coilover, jack up your car, and turn the spindle on the coilover to raise or lower the car.

 

Tein coilovers take awhile to adjust to the right height...dunno about the other coilover systems. I hear the Ground control is fairly easier. But coilovers are definitely worth it especially if you are planning for a system.

 

Sry I forgot to mention that the springs came with Tociko Illumina shocks (non adjustable).

Sry I don't ahve the springs in my ride yet. That is why I am asking this question to see what I can do before I intall the springs.

Cement in the trunk, naaa . Fibre glass, sound dampining material, 2 15" amps, battery, capacitors, wiring, LCD screen, bottle, added up actually goes a little over 400lbs.


So look. If I am droping the front with the H&R springs, and keep the stock springs in the rear, it would natuarally sag from the weight of the system. And everytime I change lanes, go over a bump, or whatever the weight would transfer ackwardly. Bumps would feel like mush, lane changing would feel like I am driving a van. So what do I do to keep it a little stiffer than stock but not to have my fillings fall out when I drive the car.

Do I change the springs that I have now to the same drop hight but stiffer, or do I go a little lower and with stiffer springs?



Tnx




Juker008

 

well for one things, you have to not only consider the dampening, which affects the firmness of the ride, but you have to worry about ride height, the back end of your car is going to ride lower than the front end. that's why we are mentioning to get coilovers. with the coilover you should be able to adjust the dampening, as well as the ride height in the rear to be balanced with the front after you have your system installed. you may want to call up a tein and see what they say. this is, or at least i feel, is your best bet.

 

oh, and it's not a good idea to put the h&r in the front and stocks in the rear, they each have a different spring rate and it may make it worse if you do that because our cars aren't meant to have high weight loads for long periods of time, high weight loads for small trips are fine. but not for everyday driving like this.

 

Thanks for da info on da coilovers guys.

 

400lb?

 

Does the 400 lbs include a couple of dead bodies???

 

if u guys new more about custom systems and the weight of all the components plus weight of all material u would know the back of the car does drop very noticibly. if u guys still think its not tru do a search on systems, find my car and look at the rear. im push 350 pounds in my trunk!!

 

who knows, maybe he's related to the soprano's? j/k

 

I totally agree with you, that's why i've been saying to get coilovers, because it's the ONLY way to adjust the height in the rear to be balanced with the front after the system is installed. and then after the height is adjusted, then adjust the dampening of the shocks for the front and the rear. this will solve the problem

 

Ahhhhh OK that gives me the best explination on how to use and adjust coil-overs .

Now what am I gonna do about the suspension system that I have now (in the garage, not on the car).

I would really like a TEIN setup. Being able to adjust the dampening from inside the car. That would KCIK ASS, but for a system like that doesn't it run for about $1K and more?

Here is another question. Would a drop of 2.5" in the front give me a bouncing effect? I FKin hate that bouncing effect, yet I don't want my filling to rattle out everytime I take the car out. So what should I look at in terms of spring specs that would allow me to judge if a spring is gonna be too rough to too springy, give me a range for the spring rate.


Tnx



Juker008

 

ummm, ranges i have no clue, you should probably contact a local dealer and ask them, or call up tein. and in addition the bouncing is something that we can't avoid to much when our cars are lowered, because the extra height that we have when they are stock is meant to compensate for bumps in the rode, that's why you can't feel them.

when you lower the car, the car has to compensate for the bump with a shorter clearance and so it responds very quickly therby "bouncing" or just being more firm makes it feel rock hard. but that's how sports cars are, they aren't built for smooth rides. but there is a trade off, lower the height the stiffer the ride and vice versa, so it's up to you to decide how sporty of a ride you want.

my last car which was an integra, i started with a 2.2 racing drop, over time the springs settled and i ended up having almost a 2.7 drop. super slammed but it didn't bounce for some reason (or not that much at all) but that's also cuz it didn't weight as much as our cl's do.

 

OK so who has a droped CLS? I need to know people's reaction to different drops, and what companies they decided to go with.

2.7" huh how did that feel on the road? Did u feel ever crack and imperfection in the road?



Juker008

 

it was a stiff ride, every dip and bump it would respond to very quickly and keep it self planted to the ground, it's that stiffness that people tend not to like, but i did because it is how it's suppose to perform if it hits a bump, to keep the wheels planted on the ground. you could feel the little bumps and so forth, but not every imperfection in the road.