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Originally posted by ModAddict
Didn't make any difference, tried it at the 1-2 setting,...car ran fine, still had the cutout up high,...and nothing different in the main unit settings screen.
Didn't make any difference, tried it at the 1-2 setting,...car ran fine, still had the cutout up high,...and nothing different in the main unit settings screen.
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The easiest way to solve this is to isolate the problem by removing functions one at a time to find the problem. I would start by bypassing the VTEC signals around the e-Manage and see if that makes a difference. If it does then I would try to determine what part of the VTEC signal system is incorrect, etc.
BTW, I got my connectors in and will make my harness today or tomorrow.
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Originally posted by scalbert
The easiest way to solve this is to isolate the problem by removing functions one at a time to find the problem. I would start by bypassing the VTEC signals around the e-Manage and see if that makes a difference. If it does then I would try to determine what part of the VTEC signal system is incorrect, etc.
The easiest way to solve this is to isolate the problem by removing functions one at a time to find the problem. I would start by bypassing the VTEC signals around the e-Manage and see if that makes a difference. If it does then I would try to determine what part of the VTEC signal system is incorrect, etc.
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Wired the VTM and the VTSOL straight thru the harness, bypassing the eman. It wouldn't start. It cranked, and began to start, but stumbled and stalled right away.
SW1: 7
SW2: 8
SW3: D
JP1: 1-2
JP2: 1-2
JP3: 2-3
JP4: 1-2
JP5: Off
JP6: Off
JP7: Off
SW1: 7
SW2: 8
SW3: D
JP1: 1-2
JP2: 1-2
JP3: 2-3
JP4: 1-2
JP5: Off
JP6: Off
JP7: Off
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Originally posted by scalbert
BTW, I got my connectors in and will make my harness today or tomorrow.
BTW, I got my connectors in and will make my harness today or tomorrow.
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I'm thinking the jumpers should go to non-vtec settings if I've wired vtec around the eman.
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That doesn't make sense as the e-Manage should operate without the VTEC signal even if the Jumpers were set to do so. Those are just digital I/O and are nothing special. I know numerous things to look and try but it might be better for me to get my harness together first.
I have it about 25% done and will finish up in the morning. I am actually making it a pass though right now and will hook up the e-Manage wires later in the day. But hopefully by the end of the day I should have the car running with the unit. If I run into similar problems I will have the scope with me and will trouble shoot it Saturday and get this resolved.
I have it about 25% done and will finish up in the morning. I am actually making it a pass though right now and will hook up the e-Manage wires later in the day. But hopefully by the end of the day I should have the car running with the unit. If I run into similar problems I will have the scope with me and will trouble shoot it Saturday and get this resolved.
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I keep thinking there's something in the support tool that's not turning on the Vtec signal, but I still don't see why that would cause a fuel cut out. Everything is out of the car, and it's running great. I'll leave it out for now and see how yours turns out.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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I got the straight through harness done and in the car; it tested out fine without any mishaps. I got the e-Manage harnesses added about 80%; all ignition and injector controls were wired to my harness but that is where the day ended.
It is close and I hope to gain some time this weekend to finish up. Otherwise it will be Monday morning (I've been going in earlier to work on this as I have no time at home
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It is close and I hope to gain some time this weekend to finish up. Otherwise it will be Monday morning (I've been going in earlier to work on this as I have no time at home
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Originally posted by scalbert
I got the straight through harness done and in the car; it tested out fine without any mishaps.
I got the straight through harness done and in the car; it tested out fine without any mishaps.
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I did screw up one of the sockets though and had a lesson learned; don't cut the pin-outs too short. I am surprised by the amount of time I have into it. Now I am being cautious on the first ones; checking and re-checking. But so far I have about three hours into the harness with about an hour more. In a finished product with the e-Manage harness installed, I could probably complete it in about 2.5 to 3 hours total.
One nice thing too is that with the cable assemblies we do in-house for industrial pressure transducers; the Packard terminal crimping tools we use worked for the AMP terminals as well.
Everything is soldered on and won't be coming off. I just need to see how it will fit under there as there doesn't appear to be enough room to get the carpet back with everything hooked up.
One nice thing too is that with the cable assemblies we do in-house for industrial pressure transducers; the Packard terminal crimping tools we use worked for the AMP terminals as well.
Everything is soldered on and won't be coming off. I just need to see how it will fit under there as there doesn't appear to be enough room to get the carpet back with everything hooked up.
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Originally posted by JaDia4
I saw a used unit/software for sale on ebay @ $270. 1 day left!
I saw a used unit/software for sale on ebay @ $270. 1 day left!
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It'll be tomorrow before I can get to it. I'm going into the office early to get the harness finished, tested on the bench and then in the car. I should have the time and the equipment available to get it thouroughly tested out tomorrow. This includes trouble shooting.
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Well, good news and bad new. The bad news first:
Brad, I don't know what you did wrong.
:P But I think I know the problem.
Now for the good news and as if you haven't already guessed; it fired up and ran immediately. It idled perfectly and ran without a hitch. I went for a quick drive and it revved up climbing past 5200 RPM without a problem allowing me to go to redline without a hiccup.
So it works for me but with a catch. I didn't have the VTEC controls hooked up and for a reason. In reading the e-Manage manual and the FAQ it states that the VTEC pressure switch signal is inverted from the solenoid control signal. However, the shop manual for our car states otherwise. Our return signal is the same as the output control signal; 0 VDC at low revs and battery voltage at high revs. This is most likely the cause for your problem Brad; the ECU never saw the VTEC change over and limited the revs.
Before I hook up the VTEC signals I am going to redo my wiring harness as it is too cramped and I don't like the way it is sitting. I'll do this in the next couple of days and will hard wire the e-Manage harness into the system. I'll also prepare the e-Manage for a permanent home in my glove box like what Brad was planning. This way I will convert over to permanently running off the e-Manage this weekend and the tuning will begin.
Brad, I don't know what you did wrong.
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Now for the good news and as if you haven't already guessed; it fired up and ran immediately. It idled perfectly and ran without a hitch. I went for a quick drive and it revved up climbing past 5200 RPM without a problem allowing me to go to redline without a hiccup.
So it works for me but with a catch. I didn't have the VTEC controls hooked up and for a reason. In reading the e-Manage manual and the FAQ it states that the VTEC pressure switch signal is inverted from the solenoid control signal. However, the shop manual for our car states otherwise. Our return signal is the same as the output control signal; 0 VDC at low revs and battery voltage at high revs. This is most likely the cause for your problem Brad; the ECU never saw the VTEC change over and limited the revs.
Before I hook up the VTEC signals I am going to redo my wiring harness as it is too cramped and I don't like the way it is sitting. I'll do this in the next couple of days and will hard wire the e-Manage harness into the system. I'll also prepare the e-Manage for a permanent home in my glove box like what Brad was planning. This way I will convert over to permanently running off the e-Manage this weekend and the tuning will begin.
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Are you thinking we need to reverse the in/out on the VTSOL? When you say hard wire, are you talking about eliminating all those male/female connctors that are on the ign wires and such?
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Are you thinking we need to reverse the in/out on the VTSOL? When you say hard wire, are you talking about eliminating all those male/female connctors that are on the ign wires and such?
Are you thinking we need to reverse the in/out on the VTSOL? When you say hard wire, are you talking about eliminating all those male/female connctors that are on the ign wires and such?
Yes, I will hardwire into the actual AMP connector terminals bypassing the quick disconnect terminals supplied with the e-Manage. I'll probably put this all in a small box with just the various harnesses exiting. This way I can mount it up under the dash and not worry about the connections being damaged.
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Originally posted by types1967
good news steve how much power do you think we will gain as 6speed owners?
good news steve how much power do you think we will gain as 6speed owners?
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Good job Steve
Can't you use a relay to invert the signal going into the ECU (VTEC signal)?
Good job Steve
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well it would be nice to get rid of the fpr and go with bigger injectors and stock fuel pressure
im sure the 100 plus psi fuel pressure is not good for our injectors longevity
well it would be nice to get rid of the fpr and go with bigger injectors and stock fuel pressure
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Originally posted by scalbert
Actually we will need to redo and ignore some of the wiring instructions. You will basically tie the ECU output to the input and not use the VTM signal from the e-Manage.
Actually we will need to redo and ignore some of the wiring instructions. You will basically tie the ECU output to the input and not use the VTM signal from the e-Manage.
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I can try it either way, what do you think?
I am checking all the associated vtec connections, and I might have a bad crimp on the VTSOL from the ECU. I think I got the insulation. I also was able to push one of the AMP connectors on the frog harness and heard it click. I assumed these were solder connections.
I am checking all the associated vtec connections, and I might have a bad crimp on the VTSOL from the ECU. I think I got the insulation. I also was able to push one of the AMP connectors on the frog harness and heard it click. I assumed these were solder connections.
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Here is how I will be wiring the VTEC control.
Definitely check all of the connections. I had to rewire some and then went back and even soldered some crimp connections just to be sure.
Definitely check all of the connections. I had to rewire some and then went back and even soldered some crimp connections just to be sure.
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Good call Steve, that did the trick! ![Bow](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bow.gif)
Vtec thru the eman, as you suggested, is up and running.
It's a good thing we don't need to send the VTPSW signal out of the eman,...the pin connection on the back of the straight harness fell off in my hand. I'm sure I bent it one too many times.
Did you have the jumpers for the suplimental injectors on, with nothing attached?
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Vtec thru the eman, as you suggested, is up and running.
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It's a good thing we don't need to send the VTPSW signal out of the eman,...the pin connection on the back of the straight harness fell off in my hand. I'm sure I bent it one too many times.
Did you have the jumpers for the suplimental injectors on, with nothing attached?
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Did you have the jumpers for the suplimental injectors on, with nothing attached?
Did you have the jumpers for the suplimental injectors on, with nothing attached?
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The additional injector control is actually off right now with the ends of the wires covered with electrical tape.
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Steve. Are you now running with the E-manage installed... but no corrections? This should ideally run the same as NOT having the E-manage installed.. correct?
If this is the case, that's a great first step! Congrats.
If this is the case, that's a great first step! Congrats.
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Steve. Are you now running with the E-manage installed... but no corrections? This should ideally run the same as NOT having the E-manage installed.. correct?
Steve. Are you now running with the E-manage installed... but no corrections? This should ideally run the same as NOT having the E-manage installed.. correct?
I'll have the new marness done this week and the e-Manage will go back in the car into a permanent home in the glove box.
If everything is set to zero, you are correct; it will be running like stock.
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Originally posted by types1967
looks like its off to the dyno shop for tuning!!! i hope
looks like its off to the dyno shop for tuning!!! i hope
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I'm first going to play around with ignition and the additional injection controls just to get familiar.