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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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2004 Viper WTF

I dont know if this is a repost but why would anybody buy a 8.3 L Viper

that is totally outta control

For '04 the Viper expands upon the fine American tradition of Too Much Can Never Be Enough. The troglodyte V-10 is even more massive, punched out to an almost unbelievable 8.3 liters. That works out to in excess of 505 cubic inches, the equivalent of one 2004 Corvette 5.7-liter V-8 plus one average-size V-6--or three Honda Accord engines. It's also 80 cubes bigger than the legendary Dodge 426 Street Hemi that was perhaps the ultimate muscle-car engine of the 1960s and '70s.


http://www.forbes.com/2003/11/10/cx_dl_1110test.html
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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why wouldn't someone? I do not understand your post
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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Bigger... better... faster... more!!!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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I like the lows of the car, there pretty funny. Id rather have an m5 if I had 80grand to blow.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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that car and the m5 are on 2 different sides of the spectrum.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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yeah, i dont see whats bad about more?
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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The Viper is awesome, they are a bit much for the street though......hence why I got very little use out of mine.

But they are awesome toys, an M5 isn't even in the same ballpark of fun as a Viper is (that goes without saying, wildly 2 different cars). Vipers certainly aren't for everyone though, even people who are in the market for $80k sports cars.

While I don't think the new SRT looks quite as good as the Gen II GTS, it is a better car all around.

I still wouldn't mind another one, but for right now that would have been a stupid thing to do.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Lou i don't get your post at all.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Lou.. Your post makes sense. The Viper is an awesome car. It's more like a toy than as it's not really meant to be a daily driver, but it's got awesome performance for the price
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Chaptorial
Lou i don't get your post at all.






Whats wrong with a 8.3L viper? Explain yoself.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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It is the American way Lou....


If I got 1 for free I would drive my Acura in the winters.......NOT!!!!...
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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no replacement for displacement

canu imagine running some boost or spray
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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I got 2 words for an 8.3L engine.....


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NANAS!
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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i would have ridiculous amounts of fun in that car
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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i would have ridiculous amounts of fun in that car
true, lots of trouble too:o
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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if i had the money i would buy it.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by I am RobG
i would have ridiculous amounts of fun in that car
on that note, at what point do they take away your license for good providing its all speeding/wreckless driving?

also, the new viper is awesome, but of course its not a daily driver. its for enthusiasts. if your hang up is its 8.7 litres then look at some of the HD trucks. i remember Chevy had a HD Suburban that had an 8.2 litre engine. sure you can get 500 hp out of a smaller engine, probably not the same torque tho N/A. the viper is a torque machine and its fun.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion
on that note, at what point do they take away your license for good providing its all speeding/wreckless driving?

also, the new viper is awesome, but of course its not a daily driver. its for enthusiasts. if your hang up is its 8.7 litres then look at some of the HD trucks. i remember Chevy had a HD Suburban that had an 8.2 litre engine. sure you can get 500 hp out of a smaller engine, probably not the same torque tho N/A. the viper is a torque machine and its fun.


there is a guy that works up the street that drives his everyday, I can't imagine what it's like in the rain
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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I think 8.3 is excessive because it doesnt perform better than the Vette with 5.7 V8 or other sport cars with smaller displacement

at what point is the engine size and weight become its own detriment

cant follow the American philosphy

if it takes one man.... a minute to screw in a light bulb... then lets get 60 men to do it that way it will be done in one second.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by lou
I think 8.3 is excessive because it doesnt perform better than the Vette with 5.7 V8 or other sport cars with smaller displacement
um, what?



the viper will absolutely destroy a zo6.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by mattg

the viper will absolutely destroy a zo6.

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
um, what?



the viper will absolutely destroy a zo6.
last time I was at the drags the Z 06 was owning the Viper.....granted the Viper couldnt hook up but a win is a win
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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from a roll the viper would own the z06.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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then the Viper is doing 11 in the quarter ??

Zo6 are doing low 12's

where is the ex viper owner
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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i have NEVER seen a stock z06 do low 12s. Where did you get your info?
And what weere you doing at the drags?


My buddy ken had a z06 and ran a 12.7 at best all season.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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I know magazine racing is bad.. but i always find this site to be pretty good with stats

http://www.car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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this is from their website and Ive seen guys do better

click on specifications

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/model_z06.htm

Acceleration Specifications1
Coupe

Convertible

Z06
0–60 mph, Man. Trans. (sec.)
4.6 (manual), 4.9 (auto)

3.9 (manual)
Braking, 60-0 mph (ft.)
125
Top Speed (mph/kph)2
175 / 281.6

171 / 275.2
1/4-mile manual (sec./mph)
13.22 / 109 mph

12.4 / 116
Lateral Acceleration (g)
0.93

1.00
Coefficient of Drag (cd)
0.29

0.33

0.31
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
from a roll the viper would own the z06.
from a stop too
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
from a stop too
so are they doing 11's cause Im thinking they are also in the 12's...

stock vs stock it will be a good race...there is no way the viper is killing the Z06.

I havent witnessed it yet
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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i have. i'll try to locate the video.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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never mind I just found some specs on the new Viper...it suppose to be doing 11.77 and trap at 123 mph....thats sick fast
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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i guess your brain was still stuck on old viper specs.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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never mind I just found some specs on the new Viper...it suppose to be doing 11.77 and trap at 123 mph....thats sick fast
yeah, theyre fuckin fast.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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viper owns in domestic cars
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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ford gt > viper
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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I understand Lou's first post well. Aside from going to a local track, if there is one near you, you will never use most of that power. I would like to see someone explain to the police officer why they were doing over twice the legal speed limit. Not to mention your already a ticket magnet in a bright red viper.

edit: In terms of domestic cars the viper doesn't own, but is close to owning. Like Mattg said theres the GT and there is also the Saleen S7. But once you factor in price everything changes.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by lou
I think 8.3 is excessive because it doesnt perform better than the Vette with 5.7 V8 or other sport cars with smaller displacement

at what point is the engine size and weight become its own detriment

cant follow the American philosphy

if it takes one man.... a minute to screw in a light bulb... then lets get 60 men to do it that way it will be done in one second.


that's fucking retarded, that's like saying I can make a 1.8 honda motor faster then a viper, sure I could, but i'd still rather have the viper
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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i have NEVER seen a stock z06 do low 12s. Where did you get your info?
And what weere you doing at the drags?


My buddy ken had a z06 and ran a 12.7 at best all season.

there are a few dudes that have run 11.9X's on just DR's

I've even "heard" rumors of one or two doing it out of the box
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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my bad :o
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