It is a better car and it should be given that its about $50k more than a Viper. Also, good luck getting one for MSRP.....not going to happen.

 

Try 70k more than the Viper and thats what it "should" cost and like Beltfed said, not going to happen. We'll probably see some of the first ones go for two to three times the MSRP.

 

MSRP on the Viper is just over $83k (after GG tax), the GT is $139,995.

$57k more than a Viper

But, there are a few options on the GT which I'm sure will put the # closer to yours.

 

According to the price in the back of Road and Track the listprice is 149,900 and price as tested by them is 150,525. They could be wrong, who knows. Its still a large gap just based on list prices. WHo knows what the GT's are going to go for when they come out.

 

another thing its not N/A.....if we're talking about S/C and turbo engines...then there is a lot of cars

my personal favorite would be the MB CL65
a biturbo V12 with over 700 lbs. of torque

if the s600 us doing 11.9 1/4 then the 65 will be mind blowing

cool video of the cl65 in Italian

http://turbo.m6.fr/Turbo_statique/es...%2F303%3Cbr%2#

 

your looking wayyyyy too much into this

 

youre right about that, but still. the old viper was 8 liters and it was even with the token 5.7 liter LS6.

new viper would take a Z06? wow. wait until after the C6 Z06. i guarantee GM will revamp and do a better job than dodge's revamp. 5.7 liters was enough to keep up with 8 liters. i guarantee 6 liters (and 500 hp supposedly) will take 8.3 liters (with 500hp)

Move
Over
People
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Racing

 

Z06 is a better handling car, but the Viper will smoke it in a straight line. I think R&T did a comparo of the 2 about a year ago and the Z06 posted better times.

 

what a hi hack



vipers can run 11 stock, when the lighter coupe comes out it will be even quicker, the viper puts down way more trq than the z06

 

i would think the viper would win on the track as well considering it's faster straight line, pulls more g's on the skid pad and has some of the best brakes in the world.

 

I still very much prefer the looks of the previous Viper to the new one.

 

the SRT will just walk away on the straights.

 

you really don't have any clue about the shit you talk about do you?



Honest question?

 

yeah...go away you.

 

HP isn't everything on a racetrack. The Z06 might be pickup some speed thru the corners, which could make it rough for the Viper to catch. The Z06 could have a higher exit speed. I will try and find that article.....

 

If I had the money to buy it I would do something else with it, but if I had a special Money to Spend on a Viper account and it was full, then yeah definitely.

 

Why do you think the new SRT is such a poor handler? Granted it may not handle as well as the Z06 but it will handle well enough to hold one off around the track.

 

same track same driver, my $ on the viper.

 

it's a no brainer

I will say however the vette is dominating SCCA right now, I think there was only one viper and one porsche that went up against them in the finals this year. That's out of the WHOLE field.

 

not taking anything away from the zo6. i explained why i think the viper would win in my post at the bottom of page 2.

 

i agreed w/ you numb nutz

 

i understand that captain poopdick, but nobody commented on that post and it was pissing me off.

 

well heres the old cobra r vs viper acr vs z06

http://www.z06vette.com/media/shootout.wmv

 

youre the fucking stupidest burnout holy fucking shit. get over it, just because you dont fucking agree with me doesnt mean what i say doesnt make any sense. holy fucking shit you dont like the things i say, who gives a fuck? i realize that. but what i said makes perfect fucking sense, jesus christ youre a moron.

really, what the fuck didnt make sense in that post? you may like the way vipers look, but point out one piece of non-factual information in my post

 

do words like "revamp" completely throw you off or something?

 

i dont mean to be a total smart ass here but....

that isnt exactly factual considering its pure speculation based on rumor...

i dont want to incite more of your fury but cool it with the verbal attacks, ok? it doesnt really prove anything when you swear every other word.

 

I get tired of CLPower and his comments about me not knowing what im talking about. obvisoully i do plenty of research. and dude, i said "supposedly"... words do have purposes you know, and "supposedly" had a purpose in that sentence. i never said it was concrete, otherwise i wouldnt have said "supposedly"

get it?

 

"supposedly" would mean that "if it is in fact true that there will be a 500 horsepower V8 in the C6 Z06 Corvette, then i am sure it will take the 8.3 liter 500 HP 2004 Viper."

most people are too ADD and/or dumb to read those sentences in the first place without reading the next post that has some stupid smiley in it

 

it IS factual that the new Z06 will have a supposed (i.e. rumored) 500 horsepower. youre not looking at the information im presenting in the right light.

 

isnt the viper a little nose heavy, might slow it down in the twisties but it sure ass hell got the power in the straights

 

you do plenty of research? Since when


that must be why you have favored so well in your past arguments

 

while magazine racing is always fun, the Z06 will never be faster then a viper. dodge wont let it happen, when the new Z06 comes out the new viper coupe will be coming out with atleast 550hp. the current srt already smokes the Z06 in every performance aspect, handling, braking, acceleration. The Z06 in fact has no top end. Ive driven both cars and once you learn how to drive the viper it's not even a real comparison.

 

and as far as the 8.3 liter, true you can get more power from a smaller engine, but the vipers performance potential is limitless. there are so many 9 second 6speed street vipers now there common. even the basic supercharger packages are putting out enough power to let owners dip into the 9's.

 

on low boost they are making over 800hp on the older models

 

yea, but even the basic off the shelf paxton and roe kits are putting them into the 9's. vipers are cars made for car enthusiasts, i doubt there is another car that has a ratio like viper owners who track and modify their cars. the potential for power is unreal and they kick ass on road racing circuts. my 911TT is limited to its power potential, ~600awhp is the most tuners are really getting out of them besides one off cars like cjv and a couple others. vipers performance is unmatched for any car under 200k right now, and when the new coupe comes out i doubt any car under 400k can touch it. there not my cup of tea, but no car enthusiast can deny their performance.

 

Honestly.

2001 zo6 runs mid 12s..

2002+ will run 12.2 at 117.
There a very slight amount of people who have ran the 2002+ z06 high 11s stock. The record for a stock z06 is 11.81 stock tires too. ALL STOCK..

NORM for z06s is mid to low 12s.

On a road coarse the z06 will beat any FACTORY viper made period.

In straight line, the new viper beats the z06.
The 2002 and less vipers beat the z06 also but not by much. I think they run 12.2 at 118 stock.

2001 z06=385hp.
2002+ z06= 405hp
weight 3118lbs.
skidpad=1.02gs! YES

Another FACTUAL information. GM took the z06 to NUREMBERG germany this year for some runs, and it tied the 911 TT 450hp edition at the track. 911 held a best of 7:54 all time and z06 matched that on the 2nd day they were there. I actually found this info on the porsche boards at first.. There is a article or something out there..

-Zee


BTW This is probably HARD for alot of you to Understand. Lots of people dont know how good the z06 really performs.
If you think Im full of shit, thats cool too. I really dont have any reason to lie. You guys can all RESEARCH the net. www.z06vette.com has alot of proof. Vid timeslip whatever.

 

Sorry, but a Z06 will not beat any 2nd or 3rd gen viper be GTS, ACR, RT/10 or SRT on a road course. Maybe autox but not road racing.

 

I garuntee it will. Go on the VIPER forums and you could find out for yourself. They are very cool and will tell you honestly. Please state your opinion but not write is as a fact.
I dont auto x. Road race is what I said and MEANT.

 

BTW

I found the link and PROOF of the guy who ran 11.81 STOCK.
The TOWER at the track inspected the car and signed it. I agree this is a rarity and most people cant do it. But it HAPPENED. The norm is low 12s with decent driver.

11.81 LINK

 

They say the exact oppisate, no z06 is going to keep up with a viper on the road course, you stated the times for nuremburgh for the 911tt and z06, and the viper was faster then both of those, my point proven right there.