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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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SS Mode, Too lazy to Downshift

I like to upshift, but I get lazy with downshifting. Is it necessary? Or should I just "downshift"? If so, what's the most appropriate method? Got 5AT (in 06) just b/c heavy traffic. Every once in a while would like to shift just to remininse the old manual days. Thanks.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Now that's pretty friggin lazy.

You don't need to downshift. Once you come to a stop in SS it will downshift to 1st for you.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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yeh, it automatically downshifts for u when u come to a stop.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Downshift = engine braking = Fun
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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or even when you go beyond a certain speed, it downshifts...
when you don't have enough power, it downshifts...i tired it before...hahaha~
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Downshift = engine braking = Fun
About as much fun as you can have in an AT
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
About as much fun as you can have in an AT
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Are you serious?! I personally think the SS mode is one of the more retarded things auto manufacturers have come up with in the last 15 years or so, but come on...if you are to lazy to shift (up or down), PUT IT IN D. If you want to shift, buy a manual. After driving my wife's 05 and checking out SS mode I had to stop because I was about to get in a wreck from laughing so hard at how ridiculous this "feature" is. There is nothing sporty about sport shif if you have ever driven a manual.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
About as much fun as you can have in an AT
Haha..

Engine braking with my supercharger is pretty damn fun! Anytime I gas it hard above 3K rpms =
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Haha..

Engine braking with my supercharger is pretty damn fun! Anytime I gas it hard above 3K rpms =
Oh yea, you got a supercharger
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Oh yea, you got a supercharger
Haha...Actually I wanted to ask you, how are those rotors are working out for you?

I think mine are starting to warp, so I've been doing even more engine braking than usual
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Haha...Actually I wanted to ask you, how are those rotors are working out for you?

I think mine are starting to warp, so I've been doing even more engine braking than usual
Their working out just fine. A bit noisier on hard breaking, but really just the same amount of breaking as the OEMs. Now, I bought a set of EBC Greenstuff pads, so I'm going to put them on as soon as my current pads ware down a bit more.

Which actually brings me to a question, do I need to resurface these rotors before I put these pads in?
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the fast reply. I downshift when I feel like it, but don't do it as much b/c afraid it might damage the engine somewhere. I rather brake harder than let the downshifting slow it down for me. Brakes, I figure, are cheaper than engine maintenance. Anyways, love the TSX more and more. Especially with this forum. Very cool site.

BTW...I notice the car downshifts automatically from 5->4->3->1 and never to 2. Why is that?
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Ooh ooh another question...

The dealer said it's perfectly okay to drive...lets say 45 mph...then shift it to SS. It feels the same. No bump or slowing down. So I agree with him. What do you think? And I notice that in Auto Mode, when you're driving at like 70-80...just cruising, if you want to accelarate hard...it "downshifts" to its own 4th gear and gets extra boost. You can't get that boost in SS unless you downshift. Is my interpretation accurate? Is that when VTEC kicks in? SS and VTEC is new to me....still reading up on it. =) Thanks a bunch!
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Did your car come with an owner's manual by any chance? IIRC, the manual has a section in it dedicated to explaining exactly how SportShift works.

You might want to check that out. Although I guess if you're too lazy to bump the shifter fore or aft, you're probably too lazy to open the manual.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lmao281
Thanks for the fast reply. I downshift when I feel like it, but don't do it as much b/c afraid it might damage the engine somewhere. I rather brake harder than let the downshifting slow it down for me. Brakes, I figure, are cheaper than engine maintenance. Anyways, love the TSX more and more. Especially with this forum. Very cool site.

BTW...I notice the car downshifts automatically from 5->4->3->1 and never to 2. Why is that?
You can't overrev the engine in SS mode. The computer won't let you downshift to a gear that would be dangerous to the engine.

Originally Posted by Lmao281
Ooh ooh another question...

The dealer said it's perfectly okay to drive...lets say 45 mph...then shift it to SS. It feels the same. No bump or slowing down. So I agree with him. What do you think?
If you just move the leaver to the SS side from D, the transmission isn't changing gears yet so you won't feel any difference. Of course it's OK, it's designed to do that.

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And I notice that in Auto Mode, when you're driving at like 70-80...just cruising, if you want to accelarate hard...it "downshifts" to its own 4th gear and gets extra boost. You can't get that boost in SS unless you downshift. Is my interpretation accurate?
The "boost" is just a result of the downshift. It's easier for the car to accelerate in a lower gear. You're not going to feel that "boost" if you don't downshift. It's just like riding a bike and changing gears so you can go up a hill.

Originally Posted by Lmao281
Is that when VTEC kicks in?
VTEC switches cam lobes at 6000rpm, so if you downshift to a gear that revs the engine past 6000, then yes VTEC has "kicked in".
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Pretty sums it up there Dan

but the never to 2nd gear comment, well, if you looks at the manual, it even said it never shifts to 2nd, i think... because you can start your car at 2nd gear, and there's something related...i don't know..i forgot. but it shifts to one when you are under 10km or something, or at a complete stop~
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lmao281
I like to upshift, but I get lazy with downshifting. Is it necessary? Or should I just "downshift"? If so, what's the most appropriate method? Got 5AT (in 06) just b/c heavy traffic. Every once in a while would like to shift just to remininse the old manual days. Thanks.
haha...

that is pretty lazy...
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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One of the questions someone posed in this thread was:

"Will there be more wear on engine/tranny for the 5AT if we were to downshift for the purposes of engine braking?"

I was reading in the TL threads that they were split...some thought there would be others said no.

I downshift with SS for engine braking about half the time; I figure I can save on brake wear and I believe that there is a fuel cutoff which restricts further fuel comsumption.

Thoughts?
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellas9
One of the questions someone posed in this thread was:

"Will there be more wear on engine/tranny for the 5AT if we were to downshift for the purposes of engine braking?"

I was reading in the TL threads that they were split...some thought there would be others said no.

I downshift with SS for engine braking about half the time; I figure I can save on brake wear and I believe that there is a fuel cutoff which restricts further fuel comsumption.

Thoughts?
Join the discussion:
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5480
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5038
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Thank You sir.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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