Any TSXers install a 5-6 point racing harness in their ride?

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Old 05-18-2008, 09:31 PM
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Any TSXers install a 5-6 point racing harness in their ride?

I've always thought it would be a good, safety add-on.
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They way I drive, it’s definitely not out of my realm of possibilities
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The TSX isn't powerful enough to make that necessary.
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Originally Posted by LaZyPiGgY
The TSX isn't powerful enough to make that necessary.
You should see how hard I push it through a corner!! but I agree, it would mainly bee for aesthetics
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Originally Posted by GTSX-05
You should see how hard I push it through a corner!! but I agree, it would mainly bee for aesthetics
I dunno... When I'm on the back roads by me, lots of curves, I feel I'm sometimes driving by the seat of my pants; holding on the the wheel to keep from sliding a bit. And power isn't, IMHO, in the equation.
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I heard that the harness is dangerous, if you're not sitting correctly. And if you do sit correctly, you're not really going to see your mirrors.
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Originally Posted by DiaBando
I've always thought it would be a good, safety add-on.

If you don't have a cage then it would NOT be a good add on.

If you roll over in a regular belt you can survive because your body gets pushed down and not crushed. With a harness your body goes nowhere and the roof crushes you.
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Originally Posted by tony4311
If you don't have a cage then it would NOT be a good add on.

If you roll over in a regular belt you can survive because your body gets pushed down and not crushed. With a harness your body goes nowhere and the roof crushes you.
And from what I just read, unable to move away from an object coming thru the windshield.
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Originally Posted by visuelz
I heard that the harness is dangerous, if you're not sitting correctly. And if you do sit correctly, you're not really going to see your mirrors.
If I am checking my mirrors, I'm not leaning to see them. Only my eyes are darting around. And I'd adjust my mirrs before I'd be caught leaning or moving my body to see. Is that what you mean? With a 4,5 or 6 point harness its like that scene from Apollo 13-where the tech-guy stomps on Tom Hanks shoulder, before strapping him down! Definitely not for everyone. Yet lots of 2-seaters like the NSX, or, FFR car kit have them and have side mirrors.
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Originally Posted by tony4311
If you don't have a cage then it would NOT be a good add on.

If you roll over in a regular belt you can survive because your body gets pushed down and not crushed. With a harness your body goes nowhere and the roof crushes you.
This is generally a silly sentiment. Vehicle cabins are designed to prevent cabin intrusion upon rollover and your chances of crushing the roof in, cage or not, should be the least of your worries when dealing with a harness.

More than likely, though, your overall seating setup is not correct for a 5-point harness anyway. You have to do this stuff right, which includes drilling holes at proper angles and measuring dimensions for the driver. Most likely you'll have to fabricate brackets, etc. to get it right.
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Harnesses can be dangerous for a couple reasons.

One, you can't get out of the way if something is going to come through the windshield (you would be surprised at just how often this happens). Two, I see accidents all the time where car's flip over and the roof is crushed in, with a harness (and no cage) you would be crushed as well. Three, if you don't get a sternum protector you can very easily seriously injure yourself because most harnesses only come with two straps that go on each side. In the event of a serious impact, your chest is going to keep moving in-between those straps. And also if you have the belts mounted at too much of an angle, in an accident it'll compress your spine.
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Originally Posted by Populuxe
This is generally a silly sentiment. Vehicle cabins are designed to prevent cabin intrusion upon rollover and your chances of crushing the roof in, cage or not, should be the least of your worries when dealing with a harness.

More than likely, though, your overall seating setup is not correct for a 5-point harness anyway. You have to do this stuff right, which includes drilling holes at proper angles and measuring dimensions for the driver. Most likely you'll have to fabricate brackets, etc. to get it right.
Wesco http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/nonresebe.html includes the necessary hardware to switch seatbelt types. Which might require drilling and bolting thru the floor. There are many ways it can do more damage than good, if not worn properly–including losing the family jewels in a 5-6 setup. I'm more concerned with head-on, side and rear-end types of accidents. I haven't researched it, but, these seem to me to be the most common types.
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Originally Posted by tony4311
If you don't have a cage then it would NOT be a good add on.

If you roll over in a regular belt you can survive because your body gets pushed down and not crushed. With a harness your body goes nowhere and the roof crushes you.
Very true. You need a cage if you are going to put in a four point harness.
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Originally Posted by Daffunda
Very true. You need a cage if you are going to put in a four point harness.
Maybe its the seat that could be replaced with a racing seat. Time for research.
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