DIY: Upper Control Arm Replacement

Old 03-09-2008, 07:37 PM
  #1  
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
KaMLuNg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Age: 41
Posts: 15,510
Received 1,090 Likes on 767 Posts
DIY: Upper Control Arm Replacement

Tools Required:

1.) 17mm Socket
2.) 10mm Socket
3.) Torque Wrench
4.) Ball Joint Separator & Hammer
5.) New Upper Control Arm (Passenger Side Part #: 51450-SZ5-010, Driver Side Part #: 51460-SZ5-010)
6.) New Cotter Pin

Time to completion: ~40mins

Step 1: Jack up vehicle and remove wheel

Name:  IMG_0966.jpg
Views: 4296
Size:  64.6 KB

Step 2: In the engine bay you will need to locate the two 17mm bolts that hold the upper control arm to the body of the car. If you look around the top of your strut, you should see two larger sized bolts. Or you can visualize from the bottom.

Name:  IMG_0972.jpg
Views: 4942
Size:  84.2 KB

This is for the passenger side front
Name:  IMG_0968.jpg
Views: 2569
Size:  56.6 KB

The passenger side rear is hiding underneath a bracket that secures wires. Remove this bolt to access (10mm).
Name:  IMG_0967.jpg
Views: 2542
Size:  70.8 KB

Once you remove the bolt holding down the bracket, pull it back
Name:  IMG_0981.jpg
Views: 2477
Size:  42.7 KB

and you will see the bolt below it.
Name:  IMG_0973.jpg
Views: 2523
Size:  47.5 KB

Step 3: Before you start to remove the top bolts, I would get to removing the two bolts holding the line for the wheel sensor (10mm), and then loosening the castle nut (17mm) that is on the ball joint. Don't forget to remove the cotter pin first. You won't want to totally remove the nut. Just loosen it enough. I would also take the time to tie up your knuckle for later. When you remove the upper arm later, if your knuckle is not secured, it will fall to the side.
Name:  IMG_0975.jpg
Views: 4143
Size:  51.6 KB

Step 4: (May not be necessary) When I started to loosen the castle nut on the ball joint, the knuckle started to separate from the weight of the spring pushing on it. If you do not see it budging, you should use your ball joint separator to loosen it now.

Step 5: Now remove the two 17mm bolts holding the top of the control arm in.

Step 6: After you get these bolts off go below and remove the castle nut off of the ball joint and take off the control arm.

Step 7: Place the new control arm into the two upper holes on the body and screw the bolts in place. Torque to 47 ft/lbs.

Step 8: Place knuckle into the ball joint. If your knuckle fell down and does not push up to the ball joint, you will need a jack to push up the knuckle so it lines into the ball joint. Screw the castle nut into place and torque to 35 ft/lbs.
Name:  IMG_0978.jpg
Views: 5936
Size:  84.4 KB

Step 9: Replace the cotter pin for the castle nut
Name:  IMG_0979.jpg
Views: 2691
Size:  46.2 KB

Step 10: Screw in the bolts that hold the wheel sensor line
Name:  IMG_0980.jpg
Views: 2596
Size:  50.6 KB

Step 11: Replace the bolt for the bracket that was covering the rear nut that you had to access before.
Name:  IMG_0982.jpg
Views: 2475
Size:  46.1 KB

Step 12: Put your wheel back on
Name:  IMG_0983.jpg
Views: 2466
Size:  64.1 KB

Done.
Old 07-21-2008, 06:46 PM
  #2  
Advanced
 
BronxAcuraTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Age: 43
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by KaMLuNg




Done.
nice touch on the break pads, whats your secret? im thinking oem or something?
Old 07-21-2008, 07:47 PM
  #3  
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
KaMLuNg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Age: 41
Posts: 15,510
Received 1,090 Likes on 767 Posts
Originally Posted by BronxAcuraTL
nice touch on the break pads, whats your secret? im thinking oem or something?
those are Legend Type II Dual Piston Calipers... before i swapped them in, here is the link to the thread...

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/one-pimp-ape-%5Bpics%5D-%2A%2Akinda-nws-but-not-really%2A%2A-161684/

but i basically painted the whole thing white... then stuck a decal on it and painted it black... when the black paint dried, i remove the decal to expose the white letters underneath... then clear coat over it... not too shabby and it looks a bit like the 3rd gen stock brembos...

it stands out pretty well even when far away... probably because of the white and black contrast...

my fiancee was pulling away in my car this weekend and they even showed in the pic..

Name:  TT_TL.jpg
Views: 2300
Size:  30.3 KB
Old 07-22-2008, 03:10 AM
  #4  
Advanced
 
BronxAcuraTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Age: 43
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thats hot
Old 07-23-2008, 10:00 PM
  #5  
98 3.2 Flamenco Black
 
Mandy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Marietta
Posts: 1,829
Received 21 Likes on 21 Posts
Nice write up! Thanks a lot! Why did you have to replace it?
Old 07-24-2008, 12:08 AM
  #6  
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
KaMLuNg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Age: 41
Posts: 15,510
Received 1,090 Likes on 767 Posts
the upper ball joint was bad... clicking like no tomorrow... so you have to change the whole arm cause they don't sell the ball joint separately...
Old 09-27-2008, 10:46 PM
  #7  
I need 2 more gears
 
sbuswell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Springvale, Maine
Age: 45
Posts: 3,228
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
how much was the whole arm? I'm pretty sure you can buy the ball joints seperately though. Great write up though. One thing I was confused about though was the bolts that hold the upper CA on are facing down? I though they'de be coming in from the sides?
Old 08-07-2009, 12:09 PM
  #8  
Instructor
 
AATSX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Toronto, On, Canada
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
is this done when you here a click when your turning slowly, for example when parking?
Old 08-07-2009, 03:56 PM
  #9  
大日本帝国
 
Go90go's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Double Standard Land
Posts: 5,321
Received 36 Likes on 31 Posts
You hear a click or clicking? A click means tie rod/s, clicking means a broken CV joint = new axle is required.

~Cheers~
Old 08-07-2009, 06:41 PM
  #10  
Instructor
 
AATSX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Toronto, On, Canada
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sometimes a click sometimes two or three clicks
Old 08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
  #11  
'13 Hyundai Sonata
 
TLin401's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: RI (401)
Age: 33
Posts: 5,927
Received 98 Likes on 90 Posts
Broken axles are a common problem for our cars.
Old 06-27-2010, 02:56 PM
  #12  
1998 2.5TL
 
bpjadhav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Malden, MA
Age: 46
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the write up, Kam... the pictures are great and very explanatory.
I tried this today, but I couldn't loosen the bolts that hold the wheel sensor line for the life of me! My mechanical skills aren't all that great but this seemed like a straightforward job. Will have a mechanic replace them for me. I loosened the upper bolts that hold the control arm and took the wheel off, but had to give up when I couldn't loosen the wheel sensor bolts.
Old 09-08-2010, 08:04 AM
  #13  
2nd Gear
 
Tubbs67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Upper control arm or ball joint?

In the past couple of years I've replaced the left and right ball joints on my 1998 3.2 TL. My Acura dealer had diagnosed that the upper control arms needed to be replaced as that's just what they do. I found after market Moog ball joints but they wore out in about a year or so. Has anyone had a similar problem?
Old 09-17-2010, 10:31 AM
  #14  
2nd Gear
 
Tubbs67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Broken Axles?

Originally Posted by TLin401
Broken axles are a common problem for our cars.
What do you mean that broken axles are a common problem? What model year are you referring to?
Old 09-17-2010, 01:30 PM
  #15  
Three Wheelin'
 
main70072's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA
Age: 36
Posts: 1,450
Received 90 Likes on 85 Posts
^ I think he was referring to the CV axles going bad, but that is a common problem of all FWD cars once they get old.
Old 01-08-2011, 10:15 AM
  #16  
Intermediate
 
makindea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the write-up. It's definitely very helpful.
It would also help a great deal if the bolts or other parts you're referring to in each diagram is labeled or circled. I find myself squinting at the diagrams trying to figure out which part is which.
Old 01-08-2011, 11:46 AM
  #17  
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
KaMLuNg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Age: 41
Posts: 15,510
Received 1,090 Likes on 767 Posts
which pics are you squinting at?

if i am not pointing to the bolt/nut itself in the photo, it is usually the only thing that is in focus on the rest of the pics?
Old 01-15-2011, 12:15 AM
  #18  
B A N N E D
 
HondaProtegeX2.3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dallas Tx
Age: 37
Posts: 772
Received 14 Likes on 13 Posts
i think my upper control arm is bad now... its squeeks like crazy. while i turn left or right and when i go over bumps i can hear it squeek more
Old 02-01-2011, 07:44 AM
  #19  
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
KaMLuNg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Age: 41
Posts: 15,510
Received 1,090 Likes on 767 Posts
i would check it out first... normally if the ball joint on the upper control arm is going bad, it should click... squeaking may be something else...
Old 02-09-2011, 06:59 AM
  #20  
Intermediate
 
makindea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
which pics are you squinting at?

if i am not pointing to the bolt/nut itself in the photo, it is usually the only thing that is in focus on the rest of the pics?

I guess I was referring mainly to the second picture. I was trying to match up/reconcile the bolts that come out of the engine bay to the ones I see below, since the same bolts extend all the way through...I think. The bolts I see below are much closer together.
I think I got it now though
Old 02-09-2011, 07:05 AM
  #21  
Intermediate
 
makindea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by makindea
I guess I was referring mainly to the second picture. I was trying to match up/reconcile the bolts that come out of the engine bay to the ones I see below, since the same bolts extend all the way through...I think. The bolts I see below are much closer together.
I think I got it now though

Oh wait...those are the bolts for the wheel sensor line. OK, I guess the engine bay bolts don't extend all the way to the bottom.
Old 08-13-2011, 06:08 PM
  #22  
Intermediate
 
ChicagoRuss19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northridge, California
Age: 38
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question: Instead of replacing the upper control arm, can the bushings be replaced with aftermarket kits? (I know the ball joint is a different story)
Old 03-03-2013, 10:03 AM
  #23  
DawgWitDa1stGen98TL3.2
 
omega1911's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 223
Received 28 Likes on 24 Posts
New DIY...
If the ball joint separator doesn't work because of movement...
CUT THAT B!%@# OFF!!!
Name:  5a8e7c98-7ee6-4350-b499-949840404dad_zps89af5d23.jpg
Views: 2247
Size:  69.2 KBName:  3bf0955b-85b9-4e87-84cc-357cd25d395e_zpsdaa39558.jpg
Views: 2240
Size:  98.3 KB

Then used the ball joint separator to pop it out.Name:  86e8b183-526a-45ec-9f8e-a901861e91d6_zps63e2575a.jpg
Views: 3036
Size:  85.4 KBName:  9ed20adf-0fbb-4c67-b40c-120db591788b_zps45320c95.jpg
Views: 2319
Size:  407.8 KB
Old 03-04-2013, 08:44 AM
  #24  
DawgWitDa1stGen98TL3.2
 
omega1911's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 223
Received 28 Likes on 24 Posts
For those who read my DIY on cutting the upper ball joints off... You can THANK ME LATER.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cycdaniel
1G TSX Performance Parts & Modifications
8
12-17-2019 10:58 AM
marcelft
2G TL (1999-2003)
30
07-10-2018 06:17 PM
Aging-Hacker
2G TL Problems & Fixes
3
10-05-2015 11:44 AM
gqdabien
3G TL (2004-2008)
2
09-08-2015 11:41 PM
nuldabz
3G TL Tires, Wheels & Suspension
3
09-03-2015 05:49 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: DIY: Upper Control Arm Replacement



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 PM.