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Old 07-24-2007, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
I think that's just the way car modding goes. 1 step forward, 1 step back, 1 step forward, 1 step back. And I don't think anyone ever gets use to it. I sure as hell don't.
Amen to that bro!
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
YUuup, but when its done.. Holycrap its SOosoOOooOO worth it. remember i waited a whole month to be done.
Did u ever put ur swaybar back in? i remember seeing pics of ur car, and not seeing it in was throwing me off lol. Also any good kills w/the new motor? your car looks fairly stock besides a drop n rims and a half a license plate, so i bet plenty of people underestimate you
Old 07-24-2007, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
Did u ever put ur swaybar back in? i remember seeing pics of ur car, and not seeing it in was throwing me off lol. Also any good kills w/the new motor? your car looks fairly stock besides a drop n rims and a half a license plate, so i bet plenty of people underestimate you

my rear sway bar is black (tanabe) so u cant see it really. I dont like those super duper lime green ice cream ones. But the sherbet lime ones work better.

i dont want the attention tooo much from the popo so i dont slam my car. my setup allows for super slammage.
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I love my lime green sway bars
Old 07-25-2007, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
i know the answer to that! Its a secret but its definitely sick
H23 block/H22 head????
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
I got a OBDI P28 (a stock 92-95 civic Si ECU) but its reprogrammed with h22 basemap. Then i used a OBD2b to OBD1 jumper harness, and i rewired the distributor directly to the ECU using the jumper . the way that the shop does it (R1 Motors who saved my ass) they usually wire the dizzy into the stock engine harness if they can.

The P13 (JDM h22 ECU) isnt that bad of an ecu, its just annoying because of the CEL u will throw all the time.
hey daniel, if you dont mind can you take alook at this website. this is where i might by the chipped P28. there not to far from my house either.

http://www.xenocron.com/

and this http://www.xenocron.com/products.php?page=convharness
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Okaay.. this Link :
http://www.xenocron.com/products.php?page=chipped-ecu

make sure if u buy from there to get the 'real p28' dont waste ur time with the other ones. but thats a pretty good deal if its coming with a chrome system already. its costing me $250 to have chrome installed and my car tuned after paying $150 for the chipped p28. SOO do me a favor and ASK the seller if hes going to install the chrome program or just 'prep' the ecu for chrome/uber/neptune.

The conversion harness, $75 is a ripoff. The $40 ebay ones are perfectly fine as long as u secure the ecu to the car properly. make sure u get an OBD2B to OBD1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBD2b...mZ270147431401

i bought from them, all these people get the harness from the same manufacturer but for some reason theres a $20 markup. except from this place.
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OR get it from http://phearable.net/chippedecus.html

with all these places. Ask for h22 basemap, no IAB and no EGR so u wont get a Check engine light

And in talking to Mixxwell last night, the manual tensioner conversion is a MUST
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yea i already ordered all the H23 manual tensioner pieces.

and i think you mean i need a OBD2a, you have B, 97's have A.
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
yea i already ordered all the H23 manual tensioner pieces.

and i think you mean i need a OBD2a, you have B, 97's have A.
ok. i used the B. How much did the conversion cost u? u have a hookup?
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yea i work for honda so i get a 20% discount. everything came out to like 130.
Old 07-25-2007, 07:32 PM
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nice, some guy in so cal is selling the kit for $100. maybe i should buy it off him
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I wish you could take the 5spd from the 2.2/2.3 and mate it to the 3.0
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
nice, some guy in so cal is selling the kit for $100. maybe i should buy it off him
heres the parts list so you know what your buying

13404-PTO-004- Adjuster Comp., Balancer Belt
13415-PTO-000- Bracket, Balancer Belt Adjuster
14510-PTO-004- Adjuster Comp., timing belt
14516-PT2-000- Spring Comp., timing belt adjuster
14521-P14-A00- Plate Adjuster
90014-P14-A00- Bolt, Timing belt adjuster base
90015-PTO-000- Bolt, Timing Belt Adjuster
90140-P14-A00- Washer, Plain (11mm)
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I have a 6spd accord j series tranny for sale. that will bolt right up to the 3.0.
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umm, dont think so.
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
I have a 6spd accord j series tranny for sale. that will bolt right up to the 3.0.
it will bolt right up to the engine but it wont fit back in the car.. kinda sad..
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arite so im pickin up the motor on friday evening.

the H23 shit will be in on friday

the hasport mount and the book still havent came to my house yet.

and i guess im gonna pick up the chipped p28 and the conversion harness on friday too.

my biggest concern is the wiring still though.
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did u pull up the pinout diagram?
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nah i forgot. ill do that now. what exactely will i need that for.
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it should be in the service manuals for the 92-96 prelude. or on honda tech
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
it will bolt right up to the engine but it wont fit back in the car.. kinda sad..
Or I would so be there
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I should be able to help you out with what ever you need. I have the 92-96 full service manual. I can send it to you. But right now I have to go take a mid term. I am pretty good with wiring. So if I had free time I would come out to help.
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
I should be able to help you out with what ever you need. I have the 92-96 full service manual. I can send it to you. But right now I have to go take a mid term. I am pretty good with wiring. So if I had free time I would come out to help.
thats awsome.. can u check the manual for the ECU pin out diagram
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hope these help a bit. They don't have the basic one that is just for the ecu. But that is basically the same as the other obd1 hondas some colors are different.
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i need to know asap if i need an H22a basemap for the chipped p28 for the motor to run right. is it mandatory or no. because the guy that does the basemaps is on vacation till the 31st, and i kinda want to buy the ECU and conversion harness tommorow.
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heres what i used.. http://importnut.net/h22a_swap.htm scroll to the dizzy part
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
i need to know asap if i need an H22a basemap for the chipped p28 for the motor to run right. is it mandatory or no. because the guy that does the basemaps is on vacation till the 31st, and i kinda want to buy the ECU and conversion harness tommorow.

if the swap comes with the p13 ecu (at no extra charge) then wait on the p28, ur car will run without it. BUT if u get a p28 with no h22 basemap then ur car will be realllllly laggy.
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Oh and last thing theres a guy on Honda-tech named Slow guy, hes friends with Mixxwell and Beaneg6 (the guys who worked on my swap) he has the real pinouts for the ecu. try n PM him
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cant find slowguy on H-T.

so your suggesting run on the P13 until the guy comes back from vacation. i might hold up the install then so i can swap it in with the chipped p28
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u can wire all ur distributor mess to the jumper harness, u dont need the p28. Nitenitez uses the p13
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is his p13 stock?
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i will be using my jdm p13 aswell, i will be, hopefully, receiving intrucstions on how to rewire the distributer for an h22 jdm internal dizzy by tuesday..let me know if you need it. gl on the swap.
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
is his p13 stock?

yuup, thats why i say, if its free (included w/ motor) then proceed.
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yea its included.
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i will be using my jdm p13 aswell, i will be, hopefully, receiving intrucstions on how to rewire the distributer for an h22 jdm internal dizzy by tuesday..let me know if you need it. gl on the swap.
yea ill let you know. are you doing the swap yourself? do you have the ultimate h22 swap guide book?
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sure am, nothing i have owned has been in a shop...i do have the guide but its worthless for me as I have a 99CL. Only thing I actually got from the whole thing was that i needed to shave the prelude mount to fit, but hopefully you have the CL edition if there is such a thing.
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yea but the 94-97 Accord is the same shit as the CL so it cant be worthless. im hoping i get alot out of this book.

i bought the driver side from hasport. a little pricey but hopefully it should make the swap easier.
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yea but the 94-97 Accord is the same shit as the CL so it cant be worthless. im hoping i get alot out of this book.

this is what i bought: http://www.ultimateresourceguides.co...97-accord.html

i bought the driver side from hasport. a little pricey but hopefully it should make the swap easier.

where do you live??
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i live in virginia, the prelude mount cost me $5 from the junkyard and 20minutes to shave it to fit. I have that guide here on my computer...


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