Closed thread about 2.3 vs 3.0
#1
Closed thread about 2.3 vs 3.0
I couldn't respond to that thread so here is a new one.
The discussion between a auto and stick. Who wants to bring their auto 3.0 vs my stick 2.2. Ill hand their ass over to them. I'll put money on that to.
Stick is better then auto in start-off and in speed. I can get a much better start with the stick now then I ever did with the automatic tranny. When the car was auto i would top out at 125mph and now 3rd gear maxes out at 115mph @ close to 8000rpm. I raced 2 maximas today and they got both destroyed.
I really believe that it takes a skilled driver to driver stick and do it right. When anyone finds an automatic EVO you let me know.
The discussion between a auto and stick. Who wants to bring their auto 3.0 vs my stick 2.2. Ill hand their ass over to them. I'll put money on that to.
Stick is better then auto in start-off and in speed. I can get a much better start with the stick now then I ever did with the automatic tranny. When the car was auto i would top out at 125mph and now 3rd gear maxes out at 115mph @ close to 8000rpm. I raced 2 maximas today and they got both destroyed.
I really believe that it takes a skilled driver to driver stick and do it right. When anyone finds an automatic EVO you let me know.
#5
Brooklyn and dont worry I promise not to do anything to you. LOL. Listen dot get me wrong. Auto isn't as bad as no car at all but true engine modifications can be done when the car is stick. My aim is 600hp. The auto tranny will have trouble keeping up with that.
#6
dogg you sound alittle pissed off...
first off lets all please recognize that you dont have a f22 stick.. when infact you have an h22 stick.. two totally different ball games..
thats like me goin ok ill race a ihe 3.0 cl vs a ihe type s 6 speed...no shit ill loose. play in your own field. the argument was mostly about the f22 2.x vs 3.0, even tho you still have a h22 im sure you wont be handing me my ass. i might loose but no ass handings. in fact id like to see just how it would turn out. come on down to sun shiny florida and lets see wadup..
and just because you beat 2 4000 lb family sedans, doesent make you fast.
first off lets all please recognize that you dont have a f22 stick.. when infact you have an h22 stick.. two totally different ball games..
thats like me goin ok ill race a ihe 3.0 cl vs a ihe type s 6 speed...no shit ill loose. play in your own field. the argument was mostly about the f22 2.x vs 3.0, even tho you still have a h22 im sure you wont be handing me my ass. i might loose but no ass handings. in fact id like to see just how it would turn out. come on down to sun shiny florida and lets see wadup..
and just because you beat 2 4000 lb family sedans, doesent make you fast.
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Originally Posted by wilp99
dogg you sound alittle pissed off...
first off lets all please recognize that you dont have a f22 stick.. when infact you have an h22 stick.. two totally different ball games..
thats like me goin ok ill race a ihe 3.0 cl vs a ihe type s 6 speed...no shit ill loose. play in your own field. the argument was mostly about the f22 2.x vs 3.0, even tho you still have a h22 im sure you wont be handing me my ass. i might loose but no ass handings. in fact id like to see just how it would turn out. come on down to sun shiny florida and lets see wadup..
and just because you beat 2 4000 lb family sedans, doesent make you fast.
first off lets all please recognize that you dont have a f22 stick.. when infact you have an h22 stick.. two totally different ball games..
thats like me goin ok ill race a ihe 3.0 cl vs a ihe type s 6 speed...no shit ill loose. play in your own field. the argument was mostly about the f22 2.x vs 3.0, even tho you still have a h22 im sure you wont be handing me my ass. i might loose but no ass handings. in fact id like to see just how it would turn out. come on down to sun shiny florida and lets see wadup..
and just because you beat 2 4000 lb family sedans, doesent make you fast.
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#8
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
Brooklyn and dont worry I promise not to do anything to you. LOL. Listen dot get me wrong. Auto isn't as bad as no car at all but true engine modifications can be done when the car is stick. My aim is 600hp. The auto tranny will have trouble keeping up with that.
600hp? Is that even possible?
#10
Originally Posted by Repo1234
600hp? Is that even possible?
#11
Originally Posted by Repo1234
600hp? Is that even possible?
#12
I wasn't pissed. I apologise if it came out that way. There are plenty of family sedans who are faster then me. In my head I am convinced that I can take you and it might actually happen. Im going to Fla this august and chances are Im drivin instead of flying. Not sure yet.
Looking at the facts.
3.0cl 2.2cl (h22)
200hp 200hp
195tq 165tq
3285lbs <--close to that if not the same or more
I'm telling things from a first person view. I had the exact car with the exact engine in both auto and stick. I can say the car feels entirely different in acceleration.
Looking at the facts.
3.0cl 2.2cl (h22)
200hp 200hp
195tq 165tq
3285lbs <--close to that if not the same or more
I'm telling things from a first person view. I had the exact car with the exact engine in both auto and stick. I can say the car feels entirely different in acceleration.
#13
Originally Posted by lnsyone
Yes, 600 hp is possible. I plan on buying a custom equal length manifold, 60-2 turbo, and misc shit within the next year and a half. With that, I have no doubts in toping 600+ whp.
When that one guy from Florida blew his H22 turbo set up, I was kinda relieved that it was one less H22 turbo to worry about. He sold his car and set up right after that. I know Hobo has something up his sleeve with his J series too. RRrrr....lol....
#14
Originally Posted by Cocoa
Out of a H22, yes! The shop I use to go to, built a 742whp H22 eg. It was in Super Street I believe, or it could have been one of the other import magz. The shop is called Rage Motorsports. But they never took it to the tracks. They said they kept going through trannies with that beast. I've heard several cases about the H22 tranny. Some say they busted their synchroes left and right, others say they never had a problem. Never knew what to think about it's tranny.
IMO, I'd definitely build the trans with that kind of power withouadoubt.
#15
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
I wasn't pissed. I apologise if it came out that way. There are plenty of family sedans who are faster then me. In my head I am convinced that I can take you and it might actually happen. Im going to Fla this august and chances are Im drivin instead of flying. Not sure yet.
Looking at the facts.
3.0cl 2.2cl (h22)
200hp 200hp
195tq 165tq
3285lbs <--close to that if not the same or more
I'm telling things from a first person view. I had the exact car with the exact engine in both auto and stick. I can say the car feels entirely different in acceleration.
Looking at the facts.
3.0cl 2.2cl (h22)
200hp 200hp
195tq 165tq
3285lbs <--close to that if not the same or more
I'm telling things from a first person view. I had the exact car with the exact engine in both auto and stick. I can say the car feels entirely different in acceleration.
#16
I've talked to many people about the H22. You cannot run more then 9lbs of boost on a H22 or else ull blow it. Even at 9 ur at a risk. Moding the engine itself (sleeving etc) is a pain the ass i've been told compared to other engines but if done right the engine is a monster. I sold my blown h22 to my mechanic. He did engine work to it for a turbo set up. Ill let you know how it came out.
#17
Originally Posted by Cocoa
Oh sweet. My family moves to Dallas around august. Miami would only be only a day trip for me (I never stop during road trips, except for gas), and I have family out in Miami. Sweetness, I'm down. Only thing is, I don't know if my tranny will make it out there, lol.
#18
Originally Posted by Cocoa
You've been the only one I've ever worried about when it comes to having the fastest 1/4 mile time. There's only two things I can do, to even attempt to keep up. But that would cost me.
When that one guy from Florida blew his H22 turbo set up, I was kinda relieved that it was one less H22 turbo to worry about. He sold his car and set up right after that. I know Hobo has something up his sleeve with his J series too. RRrrr....lol....
When that one guy from Florida blew his H22 turbo set up, I was kinda relieved that it was one less H22 turbo to worry about. He sold his car and set up right after that. I know Hobo has something up his sleeve with his J series too. RRrrr....lol....
when it all comes down to things, i am trying to build one of the fastest street cars in the scene. no ego trip here. id love to see a bunch of you here, where i am with my project. all the innovators shall rise to the top.
#22
Originally Posted by Cocoa
Have you ever seen those H27's on ebay that already have all the work you can possibly do to them done? They handle like 30+ psi's. They go for like $9,000 for the engine alone.
#23
Its up to H28
up to 900whp
up to 39psi boost
I think they bring the compression to a 8:?:? (for turbo) or 14:?:? (non-turbo) vs 10:6:1(stock JDM)
I see it as very expensive but worth it.
up to 900whp
up to 39psi boost
I think they bring the compression to a 8:?:? (for turbo) or 14:?:? (non-turbo) vs 10:6:1(stock JDM)
I see it as very expensive but worth it.
#24
Originally Posted by lnsyone
yeah ive seen that, but what the hell did they do to get a 2.7 displacement? Basically it'll cost around that much for a fully built motor. GE (Golden Eagle) offers sleeving thats been tested in different ammounts of psi ratings. They have the Econo sleeves that are rated to 25 psi; and the Godzilla sleeves that are rated to 50-60 psi. The AEBS sleeves can handle about 50+ psi of boost. The rest depends on what kind of parts your motor is made of.
#25
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
I've talked to many people about the H22. You cannot run more then 9lbs of boost on a H22 or else ull blow it. Even at 9 ur at a risk. Moding the engine itself (sleeving etc) is a pain the ass i've been told compared to other engines but if done right the engine is a monster. I sold my blown h22 to my mechanic. He did engine work to it for a turbo set up. Ill let you know how it came out.
#26
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
If I read it right the contract is for the whole engine. Meaning cam gears, titanium valve springs, headers and so on. I dont think he is giving you that much power out out of the block and leave the rest of the parts to break or melt. I'm sure he will even syncronise everything. The only thing he wont provide is a programable ecu setup.
#27
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
I wasn't pissed. I apologise if it came out that way. There are plenty of family sedans who are faster then me. In my head I am convinced that I can take you and it might actually happen. Im going to Fla this august and chances are Im drivin instead of flying. Not sure yet.
Looking at the facts.
3.0cl 2.2cl (h22)
200hp 200hp
195tq 165tq
3285lbs <--close to that if not the same or more
I'm telling things from a first person view. I had the exact car with the exact engine in both auto and stick. I can say the car feels entirely different in acceleration.
Looking at the facts.
3.0cl 2.2cl (h22)
200hp 200hp
195tq 165tq
3285lbs <--close to that if not the same or more
I'm telling things from a first person view. I had the exact car with the exact engine in both auto and stick. I can say the car feels entirely different in acceleration.
oh shit son.. we should all meet up.. what part of fla are you goin to?
and coco.. this comming from a guy who lived in killeen texas for 14 years, and has driven back and fourth from tampa to killeen 1 day is impossible..unless your runnin a cannon ball run or gumball 3000. thatd be dope.. im down to do it on your way back.. then i could see my parrents in killeen.
of course the h22 would win, 30 lbs of torque would be eaten up by the auto trans alone.. plus the 3.0 engine/tranny weighs prolly 200lbs more than the h22.
i wish i could go h22, id do it in a heart beat..
#28
Thats why im not getting any sort of engine mods out of the 600whp goal. Do it once and do it right.
I'm planning on having an engine able to withstand 39psi run at 20. Being one step behind will ensure a longer life on the engine. It will be a $15,000 investment
I'm planning on having an engine able to withstand 39psi run at 20. Being one step behind will ensure a longer life on the engine. It will be a $15,000 investment
#29
Originally Posted by wilp99
oh shit son.. we should all meet up.. what part of fla are you goin to?
and coco.. this comming from a guy who lived in killeen texas for 14 years, and has driven back and fourth from tampa to killeen 1 day is impossible..unless your runnin a cannon ball run or gumball 3000. thatd be dope.. im down to do it on your way back.. then i could see my parrents in killeen.
of course the h22 would win, 30 lbs of torque would be eaten up by the auto trans alone.. plus the 3.0 engine/tranny weighs prolly 200lbs more than the h22.
i wish i could go h22, id do it in a heart beat..
and coco.. this comming from a guy who lived in killeen texas for 14 years, and has driven back and fourth from tampa to killeen 1 day is impossible..unless your runnin a cannon ball run or gumball 3000. thatd be dope.. im down to do it on your way back.. then i could see my parrents in killeen.
of course the h22 would win, 30 lbs of torque would be eaten up by the auto trans alone.. plus the 3.0 engine/tranny weighs prolly 200lbs more than the h22.
i wish i could go h22, id do it in a heart beat..
#30
Originally Posted by lnsyone
Some parts of the info sounds mis-leading but nevertheless, you're paying for a fully built motor. I'd ask people on Honda-Tech about that company (Pocket Rockets.. i think thats their company)
$10,000 is a lot of money and it needs to be well spent on a nice car with a nice engine. Nothing will go to a waste. No worries.
#31
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
Thats why im not getting any sort of engine mods out of the 600whp goal. Do it once and do it right.
I'm planning on having an engine able to withstand 39psi run at 20. Being one step behind will ensure a longer life on the engine. It will be a $15,000 investment
I'm planning on having an engine able to withstand 39psi run at 20. Being one step behind will ensure a longer life on the engine. It will be a $15,000 investment
#34
I've spent at least 12+ grand on my motor itself. I still need 10 more grand to turn it into a
"full race" street car. If I had spent all this money on the exterior, I could've had a fuckin show car by now. Either way, I've paid my dues for what I've got.
"full race" street car. If I had spent all this money on the exterior, I could've had a fuckin show car by now. Either way, I've paid my dues for what I've got.
#38
Originally Posted by shineynitelite
how about i meet you in wisconsin? thats about half way
You have F22 what?
#39
Originally Posted by wilp99
oh shit son.. we should all meet up.. what part of fla are you goin to?
and coco.. this comming from a guy who lived in killeen texas for 14 years, and has driven back and fourth from tampa to killeen 1 day is impossible..unless your runnin a cannon ball run or gumball 3000. thatd be dope.. im down to do it on your way back.. then i could see my parrents in killeen.
of course the h22 would win, 30 lbs of torque would be eaten up by the auto trans alone.. plus the 3.0 engine/tranny weighs prolly 200lbs more than the h22.
i wish i could go h22, id do it in a heart beat..
and coco.. this comming from a guy who lived in killeen texas for 14 years, and has driven back and fourth from tampa to killeen 1 day is impossible..unless your runnin a cannon ball run or gumball 3000. thatd be dope.. im down to do it on your way back.. then i could see my parrents in killeen.
of course the h22 would win, 30 lbs of torque would be eaten up by the auto trans alone.. plus the 3.0 engine/tranny weighs prolly 200lbs more than the h22.
i wish i could go h22, id do it in a heart beat..
From cali to dallas I drive non stop. That's a 25 hour drive. I just don't go to bed, and take a shit load of energy drinks. But now, I have 30mg of aderol, which is the same as speed, lol. Isn't from dallas to miami about 17 hours?