Closed thread about 2.3 vs 3.0
#84
Originally Posted by mrsteve
I'll race you in my automatic CL
And you'd definitely loose From a stop, from a roll, you name it
And you'd definitely loose From a stop, from a roll, you name it
You are more welcome to come and try. First week of august.
#85
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
You are more welcome to come and try. First week of august.
You have no idea
Unfortunately the automatic CL will be sold by then. However i'll take you in the 6MT. How much horsepower are you putting down to the wheels?
#86
Shiii. I can see how many people are haten me. If we are jumping on turbo and superchargers why not wait till next year. Run about 30lbs of boost on a tuned H22 then you can come with God for the prayers.
Guys if you people want to come for the fun then do so but if you are coming for the grudge then let me know. At least I'll be prepared in my own ways.
Guys if you people want to come for the fun then do so but if you are coming for the grudge then let me know. At least I'll be prepared in my own ways.
#88
We are talking about a stock race. I have H22 @ 9500rpm, CAI, no Cat, plugs wires. Figure a little over 200whp @ 3000lbs. Thats it. It would be a good way to see its potential against 3.0s. If you guys are coming to put me down, like I said before you people let me know.
#90
Well If you throw a orange then I might as well forget about it and come at you with a whole new apple. Ill tune my car like I am planning, turbo charge it. Build it to the high hundreds then Ill see you. We are talking about minor revisions. Here are 2 engines @ 200whp and I'm trying to see the outcome. For the fun of it. IM not saying ill will or loose. Thats why there is a meet set.
#91
Originally Posted by mrsteve
You car isn't stock! You don't even have the stock motor.
Last time I checked a complete motor swap wasn't considered "stock"
Last time I checked a complete motor swap wasn't considered "stock"
#92
Do whatever you'd like. It'd be cool to see a turbo'd H22 CL. However just remember that there's always gonna be somebody faster than you.
Oh and your original argument about automatic vs. manual is crap (no offense). The torque converter in the automatic will allow you to leave the line so much eaiser than using a clutch. Also, in a straight line drag race an automatic transmission is better than the manual because you don't need to worry about driver's error when it comes time to shift. The automatic transmission isn't going to be nearly as efficient as the manual (especially in the CL) but it is much easier to drive fast.
Oh and your original argument about automatic vs. manual is crap (no offense). The torque converter in the automatic will allow you to leave the line so much eaiser than using a clutch. Also, in a straight line drag race an automatic transmission is better than the manual because you don't need to worry about driver's error when it comes time to shift. The automatic transmission isn't going to be nearly as efficient as the manual (especially in the CL) but it is much easier to drive fast.
#93
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
We are talking about a stock race. I have H22 @ 9500rpm, CAI, no Cat, plugs wires. Figure a little over 200whp @ 3000lbs. Thats it. It would be a good way to see its potential against 3.0s. If you guys are coming to put me down, like I said before you people let me know.
either way, i think itll be a good time to meet some new people..maybee we could get a bbq goin or somethin.. im really excited on putting all this modded 3.0 vs modded h22, vs modded f2.x, vs. minivan driven cl's..j/k.. but really this is all just for fun..
#94
FORGET ALL THAT, after we rece I'm for sure going to fight someone.
You guys need to relax on the "My H22 will waste you CL" vice-versa. Let's just have
a fun meet and several fun races. When it's all said and done reality will sink in...
You guys need to relax on the "My H22 will waste you CL" vice-versa. Let's just have
a fun meet and several fun races. When it's all said and done reality will sink in...
#97
lol - a bbq definitely sounds like fun too. Since we'll be in Ft. Lauderdale, how about's we meet up there and ride up to WPB to Moroso? We can time all of our cars and post the findings up here...
oh yea and im ready to throw down too. Elt, your at the top of my list
oh yea and im ready to throw down too. Elt, your at the top of my list
#98
Originally Posted by agranado
lol - a bbq definitely sounds like fun too. Since we'll be in Ft. Lauderdale, how about's we meet up there and ride up to WPB to Moroso? We can time all of our cars and post the findings up here...
oh yea and im ready to throw down too. Elt, your at the top of my list
oh yea and im ready to throw down too. Elt, your at the top of my list
That's the only reason why I'm going to fight.
#100
Originally Posted by CL Platano
yeah they will have a protein farting contest between Rodxx, Divine and SupraMan...
rodxx will win hands down.
Have you seen what he did to his leather seats?
I actually don't take protein shakes, so mine don't stink as much as when
I use to. One day I'll rip one at you for proof.
#101
Originally Posted by DivineCL
Which one, the fighting, meet, race, or the reality?
#102
Originally Posted by DivineCL
rodxx will win hands down.
Have you seen what he did to his leather seats?
I actually don't take protein shakes, so mine don't stink as much as when
I use to. One day I'll rip one at you for proof.
Have you seen what he did to his leather seats?
I actually don't take protein shakes, so mine don't stink as much as when
I use to. One day I'll rip one at you for proof.
#104
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
Listen, its not a matter of what you look like or how much protein you take. Who gots the cohones makes the rules. Another thing, I really dont want to come to Fla to fight, my girl will be there with me. I dont want her seein the real side of me, at least not yet.
#105
Originally Posted by mrsteve
Oh please. Enough with the e-thug bullshit.
Grow up.
Grow up.
#108
how did this turn into a hissy fit? steve lives in maryland, if he comes all the way down here to race us 16 second cars let him if he wins then he has a long ride home with a pocket full of pride of beatin up on us 1g cl's. and honestly i would like to see just how bad id loose to a type s. prolly not as bad as many would think it to be. come on down steve, but your bringin the meat for the bbq...
#109
I wouldn't drive all the way to Florida for a street race. It was a hypothetical challenge. Apparently the intelligence level of some members (will not be named) isn't high enough to comprehend that.
My automatic CL-S is a 2002. The 6-speed is obviously a 2003.
And yes I think I’d absolutely destroy any 1st Gen CL with just bolt-ons. My 6-speed CL-S easily has more than 130whp more than any 1st Gen CL with only bolt-ons. The race wouldn’t even be close.
My automatic CL-S is a 2002. The 6-speed is obviously a 2003.
And yes I think I’d absolutely destroy any 1st Gen CL with just bolt-ons. My 6-speed CL-S easily has more than 130whp more than any 1st Gen CL with only bolt-ons. The race wouldn’t even be close.
#110
Originally Posted by mrsteve
I wouldn't drive all the way to Florida for a street race. It was a hypothetical challenge. Apparently the intelligence level of some members (will not be named) isn't high enough to comprehend that.
My automatic CL-S is a 2002. The 6-speed is obviously a 2003.
And yes I think I’d absolutely destroy any 1st Gen CL with just bolt-ons. My 6-speed CL-S easily has more than 130whp more than any 1st Gen CL with only bolt-ons. The race wouldn’t even be close.
My automatic CL-S is a 2002. The 6-speed is obviously a 2003.
And yes I think I’d absolutely destroy any 1st Gen CL with just bolt-ons. My 6-speed CL-S easily has more than 130whp more than any 1st Gen CL with only bolt-ons. The race wouldn’t even be close.
You drive a automatic CL type S and at one point of time it was supercharged. That is why you came out wrong in my book. My first post in this thread was a challange to 3.0s. You drive a 3.2 type S to by saying just that I'll ask you to leave. You weren't even challenged to begin with. You cannot go and compare 200whp to 260whp because its plain stupid. So in conclusion you read the challenge all wrong. Next time please do read things right the first time. Key strokes take lil time yet they aren't worth your intelect. Have yourself a nice day.
#111
Originally Posted by mrsteve
I wouldn't drive all the way to Florida for a street race. It was a hypothetical challenge. Apparently the intelligence level of some members (will not be named) isn't high enough to comprehend that.
My automatic CL-S is a 2002. The 6-speed is obviously a 2003.
And yes I think I’d absolutely destroy any 1st Gen CL with just bolt-ons. My 6-speed CL-S easily has more than 130whp more than any 1st Gen CL with only bolt-ons. The race wouldn’t even be close.
My automatic CL-S is a 2002. The 6-speed is obviously a 2003.
And yes I think I’d absolutely destroy any 1st Gen CL with just bolt-ons. My 6-speed CL-S easily has more than 130whp more than any 1st Gen CL with only bolt-ons. The race wouldn’t even be close.
you're bringing the chips too.
#112
Originally Posted by wilp99
how did this turn into a hissy fit? steve lives in maryland, if he comes all the way down here to race us 16 second cars let him if he wins then he has a long ride home with a pocket full of pride of beatin up on us 1g cl's. and honestly i would like to see just how bad id loose to a type s. prolly not as bad as many would think it to be. come on down steve, but your bringin the meat for the bbq...
#113
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
Listen I dont care what Steve says. You have a point. It did turn into a hissy fit. Sorry but do you see this guys nonsense and his comparison of cars. I take pride in my car regardless of the scratches because of street parking. Ill build my car as much as I can. Because of that pride I opened this thread about 2.2 vs 3.0 because 2.2s are very under rated. Maybe they should be but you cant tell that to someone who likes their 2.2. Now here comes someone with at least 65hp more them majority of us and starts feeling all big because he can beat us. Anyways. Sorry guys for the hissy fit.
back to the topic.
I mentioned Moroso speedway in West Palm as a place where we could take all our cars and E/T them on the 1/4 mile. (West palm is maybe an hr. from Ft. Lauderdale I think?) What do you guys think? This would have to be pretty much an all day thing though. At least, I'd like it to be an all day thing
-Alex
#114
Shit, does this mean I can't race? I won't have a 3.0 when I get to FL. I thought it was a race off the launch, auto vs manual. Anyways, I'm still going. Just another reason to have fun in a fun city. Can't wait! We should all rent jet skies at the beach...
#116
Originally Posted by Cocoa
Shit, does this mean I can't race? I won't have a 3.0 when I get to FL. I thought it was a race off the launch, auto vs manual. Anyways, I'm still going. Just another reason to have fun in a fun city. Can't wait! We should all rent jet skies at the beach...
#117
Originally Posted by agranado
:gheyhug: Let's just all get along...
back to the topic.
I mentioned Moroso speedway in West Palm as a place where we could take all our cars and E/T them on the 1/4 mile. (West palm is maybe an hr. from Ft. Lauderdale I think?) What do you guys think? This would have to be pretty much an all day thing though. At least, I'd like it to be an all day thing
-Alex
back to the topic.
I mentioned Moroso speedway in West Palm as a place where we could take all our cars and E/T them on the 1/4 mile. (West palm is maybe an hr. from Ft. Lauderdale I think?) What do you guys think? This would have to be pretty much an all day thing though. At least, I'd like it to be an all day thing
-Alex
#118
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
We need good communication with each other. I dont know my way around Ft. Lauderdale and I would need to drive with others to the speedway if thats the def plan. I was lookin forward to that BBQ. Can we have it at the speedway? I dont know.
Doesnt mean we cant have the BBQ either... I'll start looking to see where exactly what is and what not.
-Alex
#119
Originally Posted by Cocoa
Shit, does this mean I can't race? I won't have a 3.0 when I get to FL. I thought it was a race off the launch, auto vs manual. Anyways, I'm still going. Just another reason to have fun in a fun city. Can't wait! We should all rent jet skies at the beach...
Ur cool Cocoa. You better be there.
#120
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
Apparently the intelligence of some people here isn't quite developed to understand that stupid talk in this world gets them in trouble sometimes. We aren't writing the anatomy of human life but living our daily lives. Don't confuse intelect with stupidity. Big difference between the two yet ironicaly they go so well side by side.
You drive a automatic CL type S and at one point of time it was supercharged. That is why you came out wrong in my book. My first post in this thread was a challange to 3.0s. You drive a 3.2 type S to by saying just that I'll ask you to leave. You weren't even challenged to begin with. You cannot go and compare 200whp to 260whp because its plain stupid. So in conclusion you read the challenge all wrong. Next time please do read things right the first time. Key strokes take lil time yet they aren't worth your intelect. Have yourself a nice day.
Your original posts said that a "stick" is so much better than an automatic when it comes to racing. Unfortunately, as I previously posted, I beg to differ.