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Old 05-11-2009, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 218TL
Despite this post flaunting noob, I must ask a few things.

What's a j-pipe do

What's the point of a pre-cat delete and does doing all this return a failed emissions test at inspection?

What I plan on doing is getting a J-pipe and a cat-back exhaust. One word taht is really throwing me off is 'delete'. Does this simply mean bypass or literally delete lmao. Thanks for anyone that will help.
Here is what stock pre-cats look like (pictured are type S precats)



pre-cat deletes means exactly what you think, delete the catalytic converters.

here is what they look like




The newer versions come with better defoulers so they dont throw CELs (check engine light).


J-pipe swap means you take out the OEM j-pipe and replace it with a better flowing aftermarket one.
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So by putting in pre-cats it wont cause me to flunk a emissions test
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these j-pipes are redesigned from stock to increase air flow and they give more power than the stock pipe. if u just replace the j-pipe it doesn't affect emissions.

the pre-cat deletes will probably cause you to fail depending on what state you're in and whether or not you leave the 3rd cat in. you're literally removing the 2 front catalytic converters which act as a filter to the burned gases coming out of the engine. deleting these front 2 cats (or all 3) will give a lot of power though, over 20hp at the wheel.
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count me in too, no cats for me sir
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should i get the jpipe and test pipe for my car? cause i just deleted my resonator and 3rd muffler and had 2.5inch straight pipe put on it sounds pretty good everything else is stock for now.. soo should i do the test pipe or race pipe? which one will sound better with my setup i have now? let me know everyone and i will put up pix soon
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If u already got a straight pipe then u dont need a race/test pipe.

Just upgrade ur j-pipe
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^ He deleted his stock resonator and muffler... his 3rd cat is still there. I don't think he's really "straight piping" by his description.
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well f*ck. Assuming all the stock pipes suck.. getting the following would still be good without doing deletes?

J-pipe
high flow 3rd cat
and a catback exhaust
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Originally Posted by jmkiang
^ He deleted his stock resonator and muffler... his 3rd cat is still there. I don't think he's really "straight piping" by his description.

sorry guys i considered that straight pipe until i do the test or race pipe
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pix of my exhaust









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Originally Posted by Acura Jeff
I think an 3rd gen TL would be good. At least we can confirm any performance gains.

Are you saying it has an aftermarket exhaust system? If so, be sure to note that. Thanks.
I like using manual cars since there is no data loss from torque converter lock up. But that is only from 1000-2000RPM. Of course I will document the mods on the car.
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Richie, I sent you a pm.
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Originally Posted by 218TL
well f*ck. Assuming all the stock pipes suck.. getting the following would still be good without doing deletes?

J-pipe
high flow 3rd cat
and a catback exhaust
IME, theres no need for a HCF when you're not running the deletes. Open that bitch up!

I've ran the test / race pipe and the HFC with and without the deletes...
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^ How much torque do u lose with the precats?

Lets say with or without a catback? with a j-pipe and a test pipe?
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Originally Posted by Brink1971
Does anyone have any pictures of the stock parts on the TL that these aftermarket replace? I understand the test pipe replaces the 3rd cat but the J-Pipe gives you what gain? Is the stock version crimped down. I noticed on my MDX that Honda crimped down this portion of the exhaust/down pipe. It appears for ground clearance.
One on top is the RV6 V2 middle is stock and the RV6 V1 is on the bottom.
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Originally Posted by JwongTLS
^ How much torque do u lose with the precats?

Lets say with or without a catback? with a j-pipe and a test pipe?
On my Accord dynos we did not loose any TQ I am not sure about the TLs though.
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with full bolt on and a catback?
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Originally Posted by JwongTLS
with full bolt on and a catback?
My Accord only had precat deletes, jpipe, test pipe and tanabe exhaust. No intake or pulley.
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so if u didnt lose any torque with that set-up, I expect the TL to have the same results?

since the TL and accord are pretty similar.

niceeee...but maybe a TLs can clarify that
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Originally Posted by JwongTLS
so if u didnt lose any torque with that set-up, I expect the TL to have the same results?

since the TL and accord are pretty similar.

niceeee...but maybe a TLs can clarify that
I honestly don't know I have heard a lots of speculation. But you will gain mad top end.
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Some of the actually stated that they lost low-end torque... one guy even sold his pre-cat deletes because of that issue. I'm waiting for the new J-pipe so i will order it along with the test pipe for the 3rd-cat. I was thinking about the precats but losing low end torque is the last thing a TL needs. It would kill all the fun in regular driving
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I never dyno'd when I ran the deletes so I can't say with 100% certainty that low end torque was decreased. It did feel less torque-y in the low RPM ranges but once you got on the highway, you quickly forgot about your low end issue since your TL will pull much harder at WOT.

BTW, a quick way to gain more low end torque: CAI and a lighter crank pulley

Oh by the way, the RV6 j-pipe is lighter than stock AND the ATLP one (90% sure).

My setup at the time: AEM CAI, UR pulley, RV6 deletes, j pipe, HFC, Comptech catback.

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100 bucks sent pre order j-pipe and race pipe ! cant wait
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
One on top is the RV6 V2 middle is stock and the RV6 V1 is on the bottom.
Richie, great pictures. I appreciate the side-by-side comparison. Your efforts go a long way. Thank you.

Is there a diameter difference between the OEM and V2 pipes?

Just out of curiosity, the V1 looks a lot newer than the V2. Any reason why? Also, does anyones SS J-Pipe not tarnish like that?
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ss never stays polished like new... it turns all sorts of colors like blue

the v2 up there looks like his prototype while the v1 is brand new
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
the v2 up there looks like his prototype while the v1 is brand new
Yes exactly. Once a j pipe goes on a car and gets some HOT exhaust flowing thru it, it'll first turn into a sexy golden color...
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Originally Posted by Acura Jeff
Richie, great pictures. I appreciate the side-by-side comparison. Your efforts go a long way. Thank you.

Is there a diameter difference between the OEM and V2 pipes?

Just out of curiosity, the V1 looks a lot newer than the V2. Any reason why? Also, does anyones SS J-Pipe not tarnish like that?
The stock jpipe is 1.75", the V1 and V2 is 2.25". The golden color is from the heat the V2 has been used.
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^^^ can i buy that used v2 for the fraction of the money.....

money is tight right now man,.....DAMN !!!!
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Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ can i buy that used v2 for the fraction of the money.....

money is tight right now man,.....DAMN !!!!

gotta pay the price for whats nice
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Originally Posted by Richie v6
One on top is the RV6 V2 middle is stock and the RV6 V1 is on the bottom.
For some reason I am not seeing the pictures like I did yesterday. Were they removed?
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Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ can i buy that used v2 for the fraction of the money.....

money is tight right now man,.....DAMN !!!!
The prototypes only have mild steel flanges which can rust out, I wouldn't get it. I have a few used V1 for sale if you are looking for cheap.
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gotta pay the price for whats nice
LOL.....hey zip it LOL !!!

Originally Posted by Richie v6
The prototypes only have mild steel flanges which can rust out, I wouldn't get it. I have a few used V1 for sale if you are looking for cheap.
Man I really commend you for your customer service....i mean very truthful and very nice....

havent done business with you yet....but cant wait....
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Thanks Richie

Originally Posted by swoosh
Man I really commend you for your customer service....i mean very truthful and very nice....

havent done business with you yet....but cant wait....
+1

Richie, your prompt replies and comparison photos are appreciated! I think quite of few folks trust working with you (an engineer) instead of a salesman. Way to go!
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Richie -

Can you PM me for the price of a used V1 and test pipe?

I'm out of Joliet and would be willing to p/u.
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Questions for Richie

What is the expected ETA of version 2?

How did you avoid the required plastic surgery that needs to be done for the ATLP version 2 J-pipes?
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How did you avoid the required plastic surgery that needs to be done ?
Remove that plastic shield. I have had mine off for many thousands of miles. No problems what-so-ever. Just lighter weight and more breathing (cooling) for the engine compartment.
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Originally Posted by Acura Jeff
What is the expected ETA of version 2?

How did you avoid the required plastic surgery that needs to be done for the ATLP version 2 J-pipes?
They will be in early June, I had them make a tight radius bend for clearance of the plastic shield.
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They will be in early June, I had them make a tight radius bend for clearance of the plastic shield.
Good design work!
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