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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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WTH is this????

I used Mother's Tire and Wheel foam and this is what I ended up with. I can't seem to get it off. Any ideas? This white haze is on at least two of the wheels now.

Those of you who will beat me up for using that product, I get it. And, the wheels were not hot.

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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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If i am not mistaken Mothers Tire and wheel foam is a cleaner,it may have cause a reaction on the clear coat of the rims.
Regardless of the cause,i would say that you have an issue with the clear coat.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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This may sound strange, but how about using a clay bar on the wheels with the haze......and then wash and apply wheel wax to them?

Mothers has some good car care products on the market, too bad it did this tho.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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I could be wrong but looks like residue from the product. I'd try Turtle Wax bug and tar remover or nail polish remover.

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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamAcura
I could be wrong but looks like residue from the product. I'd try Turtle Wax bug and tar remover or nail polish.
I assume you mean nail polish remover.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hogan9166
I assume you mean nail polish remover.
Bwahahaha...yea I was about to add that in there after I was proof reading.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KarKraze
If i am not mistaken Mothers Tire and wheel foam is a cleaner,it may have cause a reaction on the clear coat of the rims.
Regardless of the cause,i would say that you have an issue with the clear coat.
The product said it was good for painted rims...does this not mean for clear coat? I'm going to post it on AutoGeek as well and see what people say there.

I can't afford new rims and REALLY don't want to shell money out to have them repaired.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 11:26 PM
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Well if you had to purchase a new one ...about 276.16 so not god awful. I believe I picked out the correct rim. FYI
Then I guess you could to try to use it as a spare in trunk (if it fits)

(Use the vin and to get the right model (chassis >wheel disk ))
http://acura.bernardiparts.com/Searc...acura-tl-parts
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 12:39 AM
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Well if you had to purchase a new one ...about 276.16 so not god awful. I believe I picked out the correct rim. FYI
Then I guess you could to try to use it as a spare in trunk (if it fits)

(Use the vin and to get the right model (chassis >wheel disk ))
http://acura.bernardiparts.com/Searc...acura-tl-parts
Times 4. All four are affected.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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you could try the claybar see if that works. if that doesn't work, you can try an all purpose cleaner for cars.

it either looks like residue from the product or some sort of clearcoat reaction. odd. i can't imagine mother's products doing something like that.

you should be careful with some of the tire dressing products out there since they can actually dry out your tires (contribute to dry rot and early weather checking). certain ingredients contained in the products can leach out the rubbers natural oils/moisturizers that the manufacturer has added to the compound to improve the life of your tires (from a UV/cracking/dry rot) point of view.

you may want to switch to aerospace 303 (which has a multitude of uses-dash, tires, engine covers) and contains UV protectants. i sound like an infomercial. sorry about that.

see what the autogeek guys have to say and let us know. i'd be interested to hear what they have to say.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:36 AM
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I use mother's tire and wheel foam along with many other mother's products. Never had any problems with it. It has done an excellent job and I plan to keep using it.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Did you wax your wheels?
Kinda looks like wax residue. If it was wax, I would try to reapplying wax on it again and try to remove.

If not wax and it is some kind of reaction with the clearcoat, I would try to polish that out. Try Meg's Ultimate Polish first and if that don't work, move up to Ultimately Compound. Will need some elbow grease.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by C8N
Did you wax your wheels?
Kinda looks like wax residue. If it was wax, I would try to reapplying wax on it again and try to remove.

If not wax and it is some kind of reaction with the clearcoat, I would try to polish that out. Try Meg's Ultimate Polish first and if that don't work, move up to Ultimately Compound. Will need some elbow grease.
No. That is not wax. It is a direct result of using the Mother's. I will try to the polish and will use my DA if I have to, but won't be able to get to it for a couple weeks.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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Stay away from nail polish remover. And matter of fact wheel cleaners .. they aren't needed unless you really neglect your wheels. Nothing more than the end of the car wash soap and a dedicated mitt needed.

Dressings won't rot the tires .. some cleaners may aid in drying them a bit but the dressing will replace it.


Not to be a turd but I'd like to see the basis for this .. "you should be careful with some of the tire dressing products out there since they can actually dry out your tires (contribute to dry rot and early weather checking). certain ingredients contained in the products can leach out the rubbers natural oils/moisturizers that the manufacturer has added to the compound to improve the life of your tires (from a UV/cracking/dry rot) point of view."

Most of weathering and checking is from a commination of lack of the rolling and sun exposure. The rolling releases the carbon black in the tires which serves among other things as a UV barrier. That's the off black/brown stuff we see run off our tires when we clean them. Be it by itself or mixed in with the dressings we use. Spray on foam dressings are a good example .. they not only capture the carbon black being released but collect brake dust and other dust.

Sorry OP .. went off topic.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hogan9166
The product said it was good for painted rims...does this not mean for clear coat? I'm going to post it on AutoGeek as well and see what people say there.

I can't afford new rims and REALLY don't want to shell money out to have them repaired.
Mothers® Wheel & Tire Cleaner is a foaming, non-acidic spray, formulated to quickly and easily clean both wheels and tires, including blackwalls and whitewalls. Safe for painted, clearcoated, color coated, steel, modular, chrome, or factory coated wheels and hubcaps


Says in essence not good for uncoated aluminum.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesstzn
Stay away from nail polish remover. And matter of fact wheel cleaners .. they aren't needed unless you really neglect your wheels. Nothing more than the end of the car wash soap and a dedicated mitt needed.

Dressings won't rot the tires .. some cleaners may aid in drying them a bit but the dressing will replace it.


Not to be a turd but I'd like to see the basis for this .. "you should be careful with some of the tire dressing products out there since they can actually dry out your tires (contribute to dry rot and early weather checking). certain ingredients contained in the products can leach out the rubbers natural oils/moisturizers that the manufacturer has added to the compound to improve the life of your tires (from a UV/cracking/dry rot) point of view."

Most of weathering and checking is from a commination of lack of the rolling and sun exposure. The rolling releases the carbon black in the tires which serves among other things as a UV barrier. That's the off black/brown stuff we see run off our tires when we clean them. Be it by itself or mixed in with the dressings we use. Spray on foam dressings are a good example .. they not only capture the carbon black being released but collect brake dust and other dust.

Sorry OP .. went off topic.
just a couple of sources:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=30&

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2052924

clarification: silicone based tire dressings are the culprits. however if one goes through tires like shoes, then not a big deal.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TLtrigirl
just a couple of sources:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=30&

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2052924

clarification: silicone based tire dressings are the culprits. however if one goes through tires like shoes, then not a big deal.

First one holds a little merit but you will notice it says "excessive use of tire cleaners/dressings that inadvertently remove some of the tire's anti-oxidants and anti-ozone protection during every cleaning procedure" Most dressing by themselves don't remove anything.


The second reference thread is a bunch of unsubstantiated hearsay . Sort of like the Armorall on the dash of years gone by
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesstzn
Mothers® Wheel & Tire Cleaner is a foaming, non-acidic spray, formulated to quickly and easily clean both wheels and tires, including blackwalls and whitewalls. Safe for painted, clearcoated, color coated, steel, modular, chrome, or factory coated wheels and hubcaps


Says in essence not good for uncoated aluminum.
Where is there any uncoated aluminum? The wheels are painted and clear coated.

Originally Posted by Jesstzn
Stay away from nail polish remover. And matter of fact wheel cleaners .. they aren't needed unless you really neglect your wheels. Nothing more than the end of the car wash soap and a dedicated mitt needed.

Dressings won't rot the tires .. some cleaners may aid in drying them a bit but the dressing will replace it.


Not to be a turd but I'd like to see the basis for this .. "you should be careful with some of the tire dressing products out there since they can actually dry out your tires (contribute to dry rot and early weather checking). certain ingredients contained in the products can leach out the rubbers natural oils/moisturizers that the manufacturer has added to the compound to improve the life of your tires (from a UV/cracking/dry rot) point of view."

Most of weathering and checking is from a commination of lack of the rolling and sun exposure. The rolling releases the carbon black in the tires which serves among other things as a UV barrier. That's the off black/brown stuff we see run off our tires when we clean them. Be it by itself or mixed in with the dressings we use. Spray on foam dressings are a good example .. they not only capture the carbon black being released but collect brake dust and other dust.

Sorry OP .. went off topic.
No worries.

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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hogan9166
Where is there any uncoated aluminum? The wheels are painted and clear coated.

I didn't say there was ...
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesstzn
I didn't say there was ...
Oh...pardon me for questioning that because that random comment about unprotected aluminum had so much to do with the original thread.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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Oh...pardon me for questioning that because that random comment about unprotected aluminum had so much to do with the original thread.
That was more to point out that it could damage uncoated ones .. and to clarify your question about painted and cleared "The product said it was good for painted rims...does this not mean for clear coat? "


Sorry for the confusion.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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So, I posted this problem to the forum at autogeek.net. Linked below.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...tire-foam.html

After a few helpful replies from others, I received a reply from a representative from Mother's who asked me to contact him directly and send more photos.

I did that less than 20 minutes ago. He sent the photos on to one of his chemists who has since responded via email stating that if the wheels had been refinished (which mine were by the dealer before I took delivery), then the refinish is not as hearty as the OEM and can realize issues such as this with strong cleaners like their Tire and Wheel foam.

He is sending me several of their products to use to resolve the issue as well as wheel cleaner that is "more appropriate for my car."

I thought this was a great example of customer service. I hope their products work to resolve the issue. I will let everyone know when I try them out.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Hope it all works out .. in reality you shouldn't need wheel cleaners at all .
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hogan9166
So, I posted this problem to the forum at autogeek.net. Linked below.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...tire-foam.html

After a few helpful replies from others, I received a reply from a representative from Mother's who asked me to contact him directly and send more photos.

I did that less than 20 minutes ago. He sent the photos on to one of his chemists who has since responded via email stating that if the wheels had been refinished (which mine were by the dealer before I took delivery), then the refinish is not as hearty as the OEM and can realize issues such as this with strong cleaners like their Tire and Wheel foam.

He is sending me several of their products to use to resolve the issue as well as wheel cleaner that is "more appropriate for my car."

I thought this was a great example of customer service. I hope their products work to resolve the issue. I will let everyone know when I try them out.
Wow, now THAT'S customer service!
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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Wow, now THAT'S customer service!
Agreed and glad to hear that things worked out for the OP.

I think AG has pretty good influence. I have seen reps from Meg's, Optimum and Mother's checking on AG's forums quite often.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Wow, now THAT'S customer service!
And a bit of damage control that really didn't cost them anything .. but still good .

Still if the wheels were professionally refinished it shouldn't be an issue at all.
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Old Jun 28, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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Wow. You should see all the stuff they sent me. I will list them all and take a pic tomorrow. It truly is amazing what they did to rectify the situation. Now, I just hope the stuff comes off.
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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Props to Mother's for sending me all this stuff to make me feel better about their products.

-2 big packages of micro fibers
-clay bar kit
-back to black tire renew
-rubber vinyl protectant
-Carnauba wash & wax
-wheel cleaner
-powerball mini speed polisher
-Powercone
-leather tech foaming wash
-plastic polish
-scratch remover
-leathertech moisture infusion gel cream
-4 gallon bucket with lid

WOW...that's customer service!

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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 09:34 AM
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Its only customer service if one of the things they sent solves the issue .. otherwise its damage control. Leather conditioner isn't going to fix your wheel.
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Its only customer service if one of the things they sent solves the issue .. otherwise its damage control. Leather conditioner isn't going to fix your wheel.
Yeah...thanks for pointing that out...lol. I think I realize that.

Regardless, in the age of no customer service, this is over and above what most companies would do. They could have said, our product just didn't cause that and move along.

If it doesn't resolve the issue, I will move along in the process of working with them to resolve. In the meantime, I have a bunch of new product.
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Old Jun 29, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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considering the fact that it likely isnt even their fault, as the wheel was refinished, and likely not well, i think this is above and beyond anything lmfao. send anything you don't want to me =P
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Great customer service for sending you a bunch of free stuff. Personally not a big fan of Mother's products. I stick with Meguiars for the most part, and Lexol for leather conditioning. But great service nonetheless.
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