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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Porter Cable Purchase

My Acurazine sisters & brothers from other mothers!

The time has come for me to get a PC/UDM.

I couldn't afford a new one but did find a used one that includes:

1 Porter Cable 7336SP Buffer
1 Velcro Backing Plate
2 Yellow Cutting Pads both used, but in great condition
2 White Polishing Pads, 1 used, other brand new
2 Black Finishing Pads both brand new
1 Wrench to tighten or remove the backing plate

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And advantages/disadvantages over the PC 7424?




About this model...

Porter-Cable 7336SP
Variable-Speed Random-Orbit Sander (6") with Polishing Pad.

With the Porter-Cable 7336SP polisher, fears of polishing are a thing of the past.

Unlike circular buffers and lesser-quality random-orbital polishers, the 7336SP is easy to use and safe on your paint- even for the amateur.

This is a dual-action polisher: it oscillates in a random, orbital fashion, preventing excessive heat buildup.

This polisher will not burn your paint.

The 3.7 amp motor includes a variable speed mechanism which allows you to control the speed between 2,500 OPM and 6,000 OPM.

An important component of this tool, which separates Porter-Cable from most of its competition, is the removable counterweight.

The counterweight is located in the rotating shaft and maintains balance while you polish.

Unlike the Porter-Cable 7424 polisher, the 7336SP comes with a specially-balanced counterweight which is required as you switch to denser/larger non-OEM pads.

The flexibility of the 7336SP allows for a variety of pads up to 6 ½ inches.

It comes with a white polishing pad that works well at minor oxidation, swirls and light scratches.

While excellent at polishing, this pad is also soft enough to be used for finishing and glazing.

This tool is so easy and safe you will regret not having added it to your detailing supply box sooner.

Finally, a polisher you don¿t have to fear!

Please note: This unit does not include a hook and loop backing plate.

Features
3.7 Amp, AC Only
Electronic variable speed 2,500-6,000 OPM
Random, swirl-free sanding action
Spiral/bevel gears
100% ball and roller bearing construction
Standard Equipment: Sander, polishing pad #54745, sanding discs, wrench #48779, side handle, and operating manual

Specifications

Power
120 VAC, 50-60 HZ/120 VDC
Motor Amps
3.7
No-load Speed
2,500-6,000 RPM
Spindle Thread Size
Accepts 5/16 - 24 Gear Drive
Spiral Bevel
Wheel/Pad Size
6"
Length
11 1/2"
Net Weight
5 3/4 Lbs.
Shipping Weight
6 1/4 Lbs.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Also...what is your opinion of a fair price to pay for this older model with the included parts?

Thanks
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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Noah, there is no difference from the 7424 to the 7336 s/p. Identical machines other then the counterweight, with is of little relevance with the pads your using. You may "consider" a #5 CW for the 5" pads though. Some folks dont really detect a difference. But they made two size CW's for a reason.
Price really depends on its history which unfortunately, your not going to know.
i would say,$100.00 shipped? What size pads included? What size BP and what type BP? Flexible or rigid?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Thanks Patrick...

So you don't rec. using 6" pads but rather 5"?

I don't know what the hell I am talking about...? lol

CW...but with the specs...it said 6" pads...so does it have a 6 CW?



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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:10 AM
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Thanks Patrick...

So you don't rec. using 6" pads but rather 5"?
It depends Noah. I actually started with the first generation Propel pads and those were actually 7"! However, I was still able to get decent correction "back in the day" haha. Ideally though, the smaller the pad, the more correction power you're able to achieve from the PC.

On a somewhat similar note, this is apparently the contrary when using the Kevin Brown method. A larger pad will actually produce more correction due to a larger surface area being applied to the paint's surface.

I don't know, it's up to your preference really Noah.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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Oh wow...

I guess I would have to just give it a go...

I need to do more research on how to do this but I'm taking a step in the right direction for my car's future...lol

She deserves better.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Noah, there is no difference from the 7424 to the 7336 s/p. Identical machines other then the counterweight, with is of little relevance with the pads your using. You may "consider" a #5 CW for the 5" pads though. Some folks dont really detect a difference. But they made two size CW's for a reason.
Price really depends on its history which unfortunately, your not going to know.
i would say,$100.00 shipped? What size pads included? What size BP and what type BP? Flexible or rigid?
He told me that it has been well taken care of and not used very often.

In addition...he has all the manuals, original box, which tends to make me believe it has been at least somewhat cared for.

On the BP (Backing Plate) I'll have to ask.

This is what it looks like:



Can you tell from that...?

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Flexible BP, the 7335 comes with the #6 CW, those pads look like edge pads? Denzil?
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Ok...thanks.

Could you please enlighten me on what else "equipment/pad wise" to get me started?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Flexible BP, the 7335 comes with the #6 CW, those pads look like edge pads? Denzil?
Hmm, those pads look like LC VC (variable contact) foam pads. That one white pad looks pretty beat up but I'm sure it's still mechanically fine.

So how much are you getting this for Noah? Oh and what does your equipment/product list look like right now? I can tell you right now that you'll need some polishes and I'm not sure if you have those already or not.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Denzil
Hmm, those pads look like LC VC (variable contact) foam pads. That one white pad looks pretty beat up but I'm sure it's still mechanically fine.

So how much are you getting this for Noah? Oh and what does your equipment/product list look like right now? I can tell you right now that you'll need some polishes and I'm not sure if you have those already or not.
$100 + $15 shipping.

I have no product list...because I never had this equipment before.

Just generic car cleaning stuff before...like Meguiar's wax, stuff like that..
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
$100 + $15 shipping.

I have no product list...because I never had this equipment before.

Just generic car cleaning stuff before...like Meguiar's wax, stuff like that..
Well list those generic/OTC items anyway so you don't go out and buy something that you may already have. I'll come up with a short list for you as soon as you respond.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Flexible BP, the 7335 comes with the #6 CW, those pads look like edge pads? Denzil?
OOOOOps, 7336 SP
I would seriously consider other pads. You more than likely would not replace that style once they are shot, so why get acclimated to them?
Even if you grab some from the paint shop, shoot for flat surfaced pads.....
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Oh...well seriously I have probably a bunch of crap so I would get new stuff.

I have no polish...just Gold Class Wax...detailing sprays...other misc. garbage.

I just need to know what basics I need to get in the door to detail my car.

I understand...that is too vague of a question but don't know how to ask a better one.

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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I have no polishes, compounds, etc...have none of those things if that helps.

I have TR-3 Cleaner...Meguiar's Paint Cleaner, Meg. Gold Class Wax,

Some SC products...detailing & wax sprays (Opt, Meg, SC) and just some other random stuff.

Like I said...nothing that will help in this case except for maybe the Opt. Spray Wax.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
Oh...well seriously I have probably a bunch of crap so I would get new stuff.

I have no polish...just Gold Class Wax...detailing sprays...other misc. garbage.

I just need to know what basics I need to get in the door to detail my car.

I understand...that is too vague of a question but don't know how to ask a better one.

If you want Noah, I can hook you up with some samples for a minimal price so you don't have to invest into too much for now. I know money's tight with you, haha. But basically you need a polish, finishing polish and maybe a compound (if your car needs it) to get the paint correction area covered. I'm not sure if you have clay already but you'll need it and your LSP of choice. I think you'll need more microfiber towels too (not too sure how much you have).
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Right on...

Some samples might be a good way to try something out.

Probably needs a compound because I don't believe the car has ever been detailed.

I clean it weekly but the paint itself has been neglected from before I owned it.

I have some Microfibers but maybe I should pick some more up because I always feel like I am running out.

I clayed before but will need to clean again because I didn't follow up with the nec. steps afterwards.

That was lack of experience talking...
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
Right on...

Some samples might be a good way to try something out.

Probably needs a compound because I don't believe the car has ever been detailed.

I clean it weekly but the paint itself has been neglected from before I owned it.

I have some Microfibers but maybe I should pick some more up because I always feel like I am running out.

I clayed before but will need to clean again because I didn't follow up with the nec. steps afterwards.

That was lack of experience talking...
Haha, that's alright. Should I bring this stuff up for the Presidio meet? I'll definitely have some MF towels for sale again at the meet like last time along with some DG105 and FS UPP.
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Well...PC is on the way to it's new home...!

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
Well...PC is on the way to it's new home...!

Congrats!!!
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Ha ha...thanks man.

I feel like I just bringing home my first child...except I'm picking baby up from UPS!!!
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Haha, that's alright. Should I bring this stuff up for the Presidio meet? I'll definitely have some MF towels for sale again at the meet like last time along with some DG105 and FS UPP.

Yes and im going to be there early this time so i can actually get some off of you
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here is a short list for you....

optimum polish
optimum poliseal
4 star upp
clay
orange pads
white pads
gray pads

i wouldnt use the pads that are comming with your pc, they look like circular polisher pads with the hole in the middle or like pat said, edge pads for the edge system which your stuff isnt comming with....so i wouldnt use thoes pads with what you are getting....
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That's what im talking about.......
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Yes and im going to be there early this time so i can actually get some off of you
Sweet, I'll be there. I may not remember your face so remind me!

Originally Posted by vinnier6
here is a short list for you....

optimum polish
optimum poliseal
4 star upp
clay
orange pads
white pads
gray pads

i wouldnt use the pads that are comming with your pc, they look like circular polisher pads with the hole in the middle or like pat said, edge pads for the edge system which your stuff isnt comming with....so i wouldnt use thoes pads with what you are getting....
Well, hopefully Noah will bring them to the meet so he can run them by me and I'll see if I give them the okay or not. Otherwise I'll point him in the right direction!
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
here is a short list for you....

optimum polish
optimum poliseal
4 star upp
clay
orange pads
white pads
gray pads

i wouldnt use the pads that are comming with your pc, they look like circular polisher pads with the hole in the middle or like pat said, edge pads for the edge system which your stuff isnt comming with....so i wouldnt use thoes pads with what you are getting....
Oh ok...glad you mentioned it and thanks for the short list.

Originally Posted by jaysizzlecity
That's what im talking about.......


Originally Posted by Denzil
Sweet, I'll be there. I may not remember your face so remind me!



Well, hopefully Noah will bring them to the meet so he can run them by me and I'll see if I give them the okay or not. Otherwise I'll point him in the right direction!
Yeah I'll bring them to the meet with me.

I am going to Santa Cruz today...are you going to be around?

Maybe I can stop by for a second and pick the stuff up from you...
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I have the 7336 that I grabbed from a member on here, works pretty well, I have the counter weight
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^ Good to know.

Counter weights...all this stuff...I am such a
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Originally Posted by nf3d0149ab
Yeah I'll bring them to the meet with me.

I am going to Santa Cruz today...are you going to be around?

Maybe I can stop by for a second and pick the stuff up from you...
Eh I'm already home for the day. I'll bring it to you at the meet.
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Eh I'm already home for the day. I'll bring it to you at the meet.
Yeah I'm going to be actually passing through the morning time if you are around...
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Nice, wish i could get a PC right now, theyre so expensive.
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I have a bottle of 32oz poliseal you can take off my hands for cheap. I only used maybe 3oz of it if that. It's a finishing polish that offers protection as well
Yours for 14$, it's 19+ship from pat (sorry to steal your thunder pat haha, but i dont think i'll be ever using this, especially with this sexy new OF)
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Originally Posted by xkadajx
Nice, wish i could get a PC right now, theyre so expensive.
Thanks man...UPS just delivered today!

Originally Posted by wong05tsx
I have a bottle of 32oz poliseal you can take off my hands for cheap. I only used maybe 3oz of it if that. It's a finishing polish that offers protection as well
Yours for 14$, it's 19+ship from pat (sorry to steal your thunder pat haha, but i dont think i'll be ever using this, especially with this sexy new OF)
I got to do some research on it.

I'm not familiar with it or what it does.

But I'm interested.
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Thanks man...UPS just delivered today!



I got to do some research on it.

I'm not familiar with it or what it does.

But I'm interested.
Check out TSX17's thread... post #3
https://acurazine.com/forums/wash-wax-23/08-lexus-rx350-detailed-tsc17-719386/

He used the poli-seal with a orange pad -- I havn't been that creative to try this out, but it seems like a great idea, and would probably do corrections similar to a OP on a white pad I'm guessing. If you don't want it thats fine, I'm actually interested in trying it out with the orange pad since my OP bottle is running low
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Check out TSX17's thread... post #3
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719386

He used the poli-seal with a orange pad -- I havn't been that creative to try this out, but it seems like a great idea, and would probably do corrections similar to a OP on a white pad I'm guessing. If you don't want it thats fine, I'm actually interested in trying it out with the orange pad since my OP bottle is running low
Hmm, I wonder if Todd experienced any micromarring with the orange pad and PS? I'll have to have a chat with him about it.

To be quite honest, I haven't really found much use to PS as well. The only time I could see using it is for the really cheap clients that want a quick once over and that's what PS would provide... very minimal correction and a little bit of protection.
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I wouldn't say that I don't want it...just am not familiar with it.

I just got my PC today...so I just am way "out of the loop" as to what does what.

So everything I purchase has to be researched...basically.

I'm going to be picking up some samples from Denzil this weekend so I'll let you know after that.

But nevertheless I appreciate the offer.
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poliseal has its place, but its on a very well prepped finish....its an all in one product that cleans, polishes and protects...it makes a really nice base to apply a sealant to after a proper polish....and it does do a small amount of correcting....

i wouldnt suggest using an orange pad with it, if you needed an orange pad, then you should step up to the correct polish for the job....i would use it with a black, or maybe a white as the most agressive pad for poliseal....
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Thanks for the info.

Still learning about the pads too...

I need to watch some videos online.
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You need to apply some light polish, set at speed 4 and get 'er done! Thats how you learn!
Call me if you need to ! Lets get that thing warmed up!
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