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Old 07-17-2009, 12:38 PM
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Glaze- Does it add shine??

So I'm curious about getting some glaze to top on my 4*UPP to give it some extra shine. I just did a quick search on google and came across an arguement on another forum that glaze does nothing for it if a car has been polished perfectly. But they don't state the time frame of when the car was polished last.

My question is this true? Does this still hold true after say 6 months if proper wash and up keep steps are taken ie spray and wax and more apps of 4*UPP.

Just trying to justify if spending more money on some glaze will enhance the look of my car or would it just be redundant since I may have reached full gloss capacity...Yes I think some pictures might help answer the question but I don't have any current pictures at the moment.
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I am waiting to try my DWG however everything I have seen has definitely increased the shine on all the examples I've seen, I think you would want to put the glaze under the UPP though, but I'm not 100% sure
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I know for a fact that glazed doughnuts are a LOT shinier than non...
all kidding aside...i'm in to find out too...always trying to learn more stuff and any redundant stuff is good to know to be able to skip. Good question.
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Glaze goes under your LSP.
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Here's my take on most glazes out there. Some claim they are designed to fill in imperfections and help increase the depth and gloss. I find that the filling on any glaze I've used is pretty minor and most people who use a glaze are disappointed when it comes to filling swirls. I have experienced some increased wetness and depth with some glazes on some paint.

I only recommend a glaze when someone doesn't have a quality buffer to polish with. Personally, I'd rather spend that extra time and effort doing a second coat of polishing or burnishing the paint rather than applying a glaze, but if one doesn't have the proper tools and products to polish, a glaze can come in handy. The better you polish, the less impact a glaze will have IMO.

There aren't a ton of glazes that work well with sealants, Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze and DWG are two that do since they are acrylic based.

Popular glazes such as ClearKote Red Moose Glaze do help increase the depth and gloss, but should only be used under a carnauba wax since a sealant has a difficult time bonding to it.

Glazes serve a purpose when used properly.



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Im going to clean up a little mysteria here.
Glazes, as I know them are for a temporary enhancement of paint depth. They also provide temporary filling of very small voids and swirls in the paint surface area. They contain enrichening oils and fillers, often finely filtered, non abrasive clays.
What makes glazes attractive, are the oils they contain. Not until the oils are buffed dry and clear will they reveal a nice gloss. As for gloss enhancing? Its like putting furntiure polish on dry wood. Its going to make a difference, until the oils soak in, or evaporate. Put furniture polish on glossy wood, and it adds a little more shine. again, until it soaks in or evaporates.
DWG or CG EZ Creme, IME has always been put on, in the end, after the UPP or 105.
Theoretically, if your using an LSP that has light cleaners, you would use the glaze atop it for obvious reason that the cleaner would minimize the glazes appearance if put on last.
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I guess in my case, since I've been applying UPP as my LSP product then it would be okay to use like CG EZ Creme on top of that, right?
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Yes, and preferred........
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With DWG/CG EZ Creme, do you apply panel by panel and remove?

Or can you apply to the whole car and then remove it? If so, should you let it sit/cure for a certain amount of time before removal?
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Originally Posted by MD03CL-S
With DWG/CG EZ Creme, do you apply panel by panel and remove?

Or can you apply to the whole car and then remove it? If so, should you let it sit/cure for a certain amount of time before removal?
If its put on correctly, you can do the entire care. I like doing the front section (doors------> bumper) then removing, then doors and roof, then rear section.
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Yes, and preferred........
OKay thanks. I should be putting in a small order soon.
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DWG and EZ are essentially the same. Both work great with FK 1000p.
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So I'm getting my CG Glaze later this week. I applied 4UPP last week, should I just wash the car and then apply the glaze? OR should I apply 4UPP again-let it cure for about an hour and then apply the glaze?

How long will the glaze last?
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Originally Posted by 03tlCHARCOL
So I'm getting my CG Glaze later this week. I applied 4UPP last week, should I just wash the car and then apply the glaze? OR should I apply 4UPP again-let it cure for about an hour and then apply the glaze?

How long will the glaze last?
I never think its possible to "over protect" but lets keep it realistic here. 47 coats of Zaino is well.....a little overboard.
If it were me.....I'd wash, dry, UPP (if theres only 1 coat).....Following day, glaze it. The EZ Creme and/or DWG does provide Acrylic protection, but its not like UPP! Maybe a month of additional protection tops......
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Originally Posted by 03tlCHARCOL
OR should I apply 4UPP again-let it cure for about an hour and then apply the glaze?

How long will the glaze last?
You will need to wait 12 / 24 hours after the UPP to add the glaze.
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Thanks guys! Sorry another question, so after waiting a day should I wash the car again if I have to drive it or should I be doing alcchol wipedown before applying the glaze? Or can I actually wait longer than a day to apply the glaze?
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Originally Posted by 03tlCHARCOL
Thanks guys! Sorry another question, so after waiting a day should I wash the car again if I have to drive it or should I be doing alcchol wipedown before applying the glaze? Or can I actually wait longer than a day to apply the glaze?
Unless the car is garage kept and in a dust free environment I'd rewash it befor the glaze .

Don't do an alcohol wipe as it will remove the UPP ... Alcohol wipe is only used after polishing and prior to your first layer of sealant to produce an oil free clean surface.
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Originally Posted by Jesstzn
Unless the car is garage kept and in a dust free environment I'd rewash it befor the glaze .

Don't do an alcohol wipe as it will remove the UPP ... Alcohol wipe is only used after polishing and prior to your first layer of sealant to produce an oil free clean surface.

Thanks Jesstzn for the clarification!
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