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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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Before I Claybar

Do I need to wash to remove wax with dish soap? Or can I just Claybar?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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I usually do it at the same time.

While I wash with the dish soap I clay the car.

The dish soap is my lubrication.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Red-CL
I usually do it at the same time.

While I wash with the dish soap I clay the car.

The dish soap is my lubrication.
Makes sense.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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clay as you wash and the process will strip all waxes off the finish. avoid using dawn or other house hold dish soaps. they contain high amounts of alkaline and are not safe for plastic and rubber trim pieces. once or twice a year is ok, but dont make a habit of using it. your normal car shampoo will work just fine during the claying process. i keep a big gallon jug of meguires gold class shampoo just for claying purposes and it does the job perfectly.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Agreed. Doing dawn washes once or twice a year should be ok. Keep an eye on your trim. I don't use dawn anymore, except for cleaning applicators, pads, towels.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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From how I understand it, you only want to use Dawn when you really want to strip it down.

Haven't been able to Zaino my TSX yet, but once spring breaks, will use Dawn before putting the first app on. Once you get some coats on, no need to really use it again.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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I usually wash and dry the car, then use the applicator spray with the clay bar..
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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From how I understand it, you only want to use Dawn when you really want to strip it down.

Bill (killer) knows that.

Once the season starts to break, it's a common practice to strip everything off of the car using the dawn and then giving the clay job. I just do both at the same time.

It is a once a year thing.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Proper claying techniques.....
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No complete detail is complete unless you have "clayed" your vehicles surface. Kind of a strange name for a product, but I assure you its completely safe when used as directed. It can be rather intimidating if you have never used before, but once you have, you’ll wonder why you waited so long. Clay is designed to pull contaminants away or simply sheer them from your paint surface, safely, and this is accomplished with ease.
So what equipment or materials is needed? There’s no equipment needed at all! All you need is clay, and a lubricant, and a micro fiber towel for wiping upon completion. Now you can skip the towel if you elect to clay while washing.
There are many brands of clay available, and at least two are usually available at your local auto paint supply store or Automotive parts store (Kragen, Pep Boys). Meguiars makes a new version, better than its preceding version, Mothers makes a nice kit, comes with the clay, a lubricant (Showtime QD), and a small sample of Pre Wax Cleaner. The original Clay Magic I believe still comes with a lubricant as well. Make sure you buy or are using “Fine grade” in the beginning stages.

So lets get started !
Lets assume, it’s the beginning of summer, and you want your ride looking the ultimate! You begin with your normal wash routine (see Proper washing techniques), you’ve removed any tar, gum, and assorted crap stuck to the lower panels with a citrus cleaner or tar/adhesive remover (3M comes to mind). Now you have dried the surfaces with a waffle weave drying towel, and "she" looks good, you rub your hand along the top of the hood, and you feel what seems like specs of sand (If you think it feels good at this point, put your hand in a sandwich baggy)..... Close analysis, its actually tiny bits of metal (Brake linings, rail dust), or just normal industrial fallout. Its inescapable, pollutants happen to everyone, and the reason we need to remove these pollutants is, metal contributes to rust, and once rust starts, it’s usually not good! Not to mention physical appearance anyway.
Make sure your working in a shaded area, on a cool surface. Once you get started, the whole process can be completed in about ½ hr. Lets start with the hood. Unwrap your clay product, and take about 1/3 to ½ of it in the palm of your hand. Place the other portion back in the wrapper it came in, you may need this in case you drop the 1st half. If you do drop it, discard it. Spray the lubricant on about ½ to 1/3 of the surface, just as you would while quick detailing it. Take the clay in your hand and knead it until its somewhat soft. Mold to about the size of a small pancake, and place at your fingertips for easy control. Gently place the clay on the surface and glide it back in a front to back motion (grill to window). Use about 10-12 inch passes and overlap each pass. Fold the clay after each area has been cleaned. You will feel some resistance at first, but with passing motions, you’ll be able to tell the clay is removing pollutants! If you feel too much resistance, your either not using enough lubricant or your surface is REAL dirty. A good way to tell you’re not using enough lube or if your surface is too warm, is the clay is leaving product on the surface. This can be removed, with a micro fiber towel. After each area has been clayed, wipe and buff dry with a micro fiber towel.
Clay will remove a portion of wax or sealant protection, so you should follow up with polishing and sealing/waxing. Clay is not a polish! It will remove contaminants, small areas of road tar, road paint, over spray, fallout, and light oxidation. Any areas larger than an eraser tip should be cleaned with a cleaner prior to using clay, otherwise you will end up polluting your clay for future use. You should be able to clay your surface half a dozen times, depending on the quantity of contaminants.
--Taken from the FAQ section.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Nice...thanks all.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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what aobut the usage of a mixture of 50/50 of rubbing alcohol and water to strip old wax?
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by xaznperswaesonx
what aobut the usage of a mixture of 50/50 of rubbing alcohol and water to strip old wax?
Why? If your going to clay and/or polish, the wax will be removed.....
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xaznperswaesonx
what aobut the usage of a mixture of 50/50 of rubbing alcohol and water to strip old wax?
the 50/50 mix is fine, but use it after your prep work to remove the oils left over from your polishes.
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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thanks guys! my car is fairly new .. and paint is still good. i'm not gonna polish it yet. maybe next year.
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