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Old 06-03-2019, 04:04 PM
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Plan B, did you put the wheel back on and lower the weight of the car on it?

Marine Gunnery Sergeant Thomas Highway recommends, in situations just like these, that you use cerebral cognition to improvise, adapt, and overcome.

Good Luck!
I did not in fact try that....thanks. That'll be next, before going back to advanced auto parts and buying that damn tool cuz it's only like $25

Not sure what to do about my ruined boot now though...
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You just need to give it a VERY HARD kick with your foot on top of the rotor/brake dust shield then it should pop. But before you do that, take a 3lb hammer and nail the outside of the lower control arm around the ball joint repeatedly. The key is to break the rust bond between the ball joint and the lower control arm.

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Thanks for all of the advice guys. The job is finally done and the car is driving smooth. The only casualty was the boot of the lower control arm, where I accidentally pried it up and exposed that grease. I will be doing both axles with new replacements soon here, this was just to get me driving back to work asap with a cheap replacement.

Here's the old axle. You can tell the donut/harmonizer just traps that salt, dirt, and water. Yikes. I'm afraid to look under the one on the pass. side!

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Wow! That's

They say, to avoid this in future, for those that have the damper on the new axle shaft, to place a 'bead' of silicone or an equivalent around the rubber edges of the damper to seal out salt/grime intrusion.


The 'ratchet handle' ball joint separation method got you moving forward again??

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Wow! That's

They say, to avoid this in future, for those that have the damper on the new axle shaft, to place a 'bead' of silicone or an equivalent around the rubber edges of the damper to seal out salt/grime intrusion.


The 'ratchet handle' ball joint separation method got you moving forward again??
I forgot to add that I ended up bringing out the ol' farm socket set - a 1.5" thick, 2'+ long breaker, and i used the extension (maybe about a foot long?) to wedge into that gap, which 1.5" snugly fit. Then i used a full sized sledgehammer to bang it away. Took a few minutes, but size really does matter in this situation as I found out. What a waste of a trip to the auto parts store! lol
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Originally Posted by zeta

They say, to avoid this in future, for those that have the damper on the new axle shaft, to place a 'bead' of silicone or an equivalent around the rubber edges of the damper to seal out salt/grime intrusion.
Who is "they"? Do "they" really think a silicon bead will last more than a week? Just asking....
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
I forgot to add that I ended up bringing out the ol' farm socket set - a 1.5" thick, 2'+ long breaker, and i used the extension (maybe about a foot long?) to wedge into that gap, which 1.5" snugly fit. Then i used a full sized sledgehammer to bang it away. Took a few minutes, but size really does matter in this situation as I found out. What a waste of a trip to the auto parts store! lol
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Who is "they"?
I read it here somewhere, over the years, as a potential deterrent to a problem experienced for the northern folks.


Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Do "they" really think a silicon bead will last more than a week? Just asking....
I hear you.
Logically thinking, if I lived up in your neck of the woods, maybe a better way of saying it could be: Would it hurt?
Practically, if I were to use this recommendation, I would clean the axle shaft area, around the damper, as thoroughly as possible with a solvent and then apply silicone, either in a 'bead' and/or slather said silicone around the rubber damper edges, let it fully cure and hope for the best. Figuring that anything that would hamper or slow down salt/grime intrusion would be a plus.
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CV axle fitment question

So per a recent post, I snapped and replaced a CV axle with a used OEM one.

I wanted something more sustainable than a $30 used OEM one, so I asked around and a couple people suggested the APW ones off of Rockauto.

The APWs showed up at my door a few days ago, but I immediately noticed that they do not have the inner thread/spline on one side of the axle.

So now I'm wondering if rockauto sent me the wrong axles (these were the ones I bought...one pic shows them with the threads, the other doesn't... https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...429130&jsn=353 )

Or, if i need to transfer the existing one on my old axle onto this new one (which I don't know if that's common, or going to be a PITA)

Has anyone that's rebuilt their CV's - is this a difficult part to transfer over? I haven't done anything besides lay them down next to eachother in the garage for a second, so I'll take a closer look tonight. Thank for any input.


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Did you order two (right) APWI HO8398's? One goes into the half shaft assembly.

If so, you have two passenger side axles.

APWI HO8369 is (left) the driver side axle. This one goes in to the driver side trans. case.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...432641&jsn=335
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Originally Posted by zeta
Did you order two (right) APWI HO8398's? One goes into the half shaft assembly.

If so, you have two passenger side axles.

APWI HO8369 is (left) the driver side axle. This one goes in to the driver side trans. case.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...432641&jsn=335
I'm a dumbass. I opened one box, forgetting that the right and left side are different. I def opened the pass side box. I'm sure the drivers side one is an exact replacement. Thanks for bringing that to light lmao.
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Here's to you getting long life from these APWI's.
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Originally Posted by zeta
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Here's to you getting long life from these APWI's.
So are these APWI's good?
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Originally Posted by BreezyTL
So are these APWI's good?
According to DMZ, they are suitable inexpensive Chinese alternatives.

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Originally Posted by zeta
According to DMZ, they are suitable inexpensive Chinese alternatives.
I am getting the wobbles around corners and accelerating around 20 mph. Thought about changing them out OEM is about $500 Shipped for both or go the $120 Shipped route.
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Originally Posted by BreezyTL
I am getting the wobbles around corners and accelerating around 20 mph. Thought about changing them out OEM is about $500 Shipped for both or go the $120 Shipped route.
Like i said, I heard good things about these but I will also follow up once they're on the car.
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I can wait for results. Hurry, hurry!!
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I just gambled and bought a Surtrack/trakmotive drivers side axle on Rockauto. Will let you guys know how it goes.

Wanted to order APWI, but for some reason shipping was cheaper to order surtrack with the other parts i was getting. Only upside I guess is the Lifetime warranty with Surtrack/Trakmotive.

I skipped the Cardone as an option completely. Have read mixed things.
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I can wait for results. Hurry, hurry!!
It won't be until this weekend that I'll have time to do it, so you gotta be patient for 4 more days! haha
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Update?

I'm considering getting the APWI's
Did it take away the shaking/vibrations?
Quality and ease of install? (Fitment, all the right parts,etc?)

Its either APWI's or DSS's for inexpensive options.
Let us know how it turned out!
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My APWIs went in perfectly and have been vibration free for nine months and 10,000 miles.
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What is the part number of the APWI (6mt) on rockauto? might be replacing mine axles soon too
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What is the part number of the APWI (6mt) on rockauto? might be replacing mine axles soon too
Acura TL 3G 6MT axles:
  • Right axle: APWI HO8398
  • Left axle: APWI HO8369
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Part numbers for APWI from Rock Auto

Originally Posted by 04ManualTL
What is the part number of the APWI (6mt) on rockauto? might be replacing mine axles soon too
APWI HO8369
APWI HO8398

Left and right.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Acura TL 3G 6MT axles:
  • Right axle: APWI HO8398
  • Left axle: APWI HO8369
Did your wheel speed sensor on the driver side, fit all the way into its new spot on the axle?
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Acura TL 3G 6MT axles:
  • Right axle: APWI HO8398
  • Left axle: APWI HO8369
And the price is right, about $135 for the pair.
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Originally Posted by The Anthracite Project
Did your wheel speed sensor on the driver side, fit all the way into its new spot on the axle?
It's been a few years, but I don't recall any issues.
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Originally Posted by The Anthracite Project
Did your wheel speed sensor on the driver side, fit all the way into its new spot on the axle?
Yeah sorry on the delay replying here, but the APWI axles fit perfect and did not affect the wheel speed sensor/abs module.
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I am glad to hear that there is a "decent" axle option outside of OEM or Raxles
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I am glad to hear that there is a "decent" axle option outside of OEM or Raxles
For sure, not me, but some guy I know whose name rhymes with mabosssauce has been able to cruise at over 100 smooth as butter, and has had the axles on the car for years now.
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
For sure, not me, but some guy I know whose name rhymes with mabosssauce has been able to cruise at over 100 smooth as butter, and has had the axles on the car for years now.
Good to know. And I just don't feel right waiting for OEM forever or dropping $800 for Raxles.
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Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
Good to know. And I just don't feel right waiting for OEM forever or dropping $800 for Raxles.
Raxles unfortunately are no longer in production. Insane Shafts are however. They are only $370 for a set if your running under 500WHP. $800 for 1000whp.
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Raxles unfortunately are no longer in production. Insane Shafts are however. They are only $370 for a set if your running under 500WHP. $800 for 1000whp.
I contacted Raxles a few weeks ago and he said they're made to order or something. I'll consider insane too as I can get them on heel toe
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Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery
I contacted Raxles a few weeks ago and he said they're made to order or something. I'll consider insane too as I can get them on heel toe
Paul, our star master mechanic here in Nawth Jerzy, and my best bud from high school who owned an auto parts store for 25 years, BOTH highly recommend AGAINST using rebuilt axles.

Why waste your money? Go with the replacements from rockuto! I have them and they work fine.
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Paul, our star master mechanic here in Nawth Jerzy, and my best bud from high school who owned an auto parts store for 25 years, BOTH highly recommend AGAINST using rebuilt axles.

Why waste your money? Go with the replacements from rockuto! I have them and they work fine.
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Worth a shot, I suppose. At that low of a cost
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i had the same problem with my 2010 tl. the reason they wouldnt fit my car is because the automatic and manual axles are just slightly different. the bearing in my jack shaft, half shaft, whatever you prefer to call it, is going bad and causing a vibration at higher speeds. everytime i ordered the shaft, it was the wrong one, no matter where i got it. i kinda gave up on it too because i dont drive the car much and it isnt that bad yet but a bit annoying. so, if your ever changing your passenger axle, confirm it is for your type of transmission. side by side, they look identical too. but if you count the splines, they are not the same. maybe someone else already covered this but in case they didnt , here ya go
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