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06-14-2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RUF87
Don't go getting defensive on me now . . . I was just busting some chops 
Originally Posted by trancemission
I have nothing but the most admirable respect for Mark. Each and everytime we've met Ive learned from him. He is a wealth of knowledge about these cars. I now drive my car a little differently (from time to time) thanks to him. Shit, I wasnt even thinkin about performance mods till he started planting seeds in my head. LOL!
^^^I love you Ruf.
06-14-2005, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
last time we were on a balcony with a private bar. No crowd at all. Our own set of speakers and a great view of the DJ without 2000 people standing in front of you.
This is the view from VIP. There was maybe 20 of us up there. All kinds of room
This is the view from VIP. There was maybe 20 of us up there. All kinds of room
Perfect, I hate big crowds in front of me, or around me for that matter
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RUF, where did this list come from? Car and Driver and Road and Track both have the 04 STi listed as sub-5.0 in the 60 and sub 14.0 in the 1/4 mile. Just wondering.
P.S. Your results may vary (as you know mine have--mostly the driver issue at the strip).
P.S. Your results may vary (as you know mine have--mostly the driver issue at the strip).
Originally Posted by RUF87
Don't go getting defensive on me now . . . I was just busting some chops
As for the 10th here and there . . . that's really how it's done in this business. There are very few big boost items and most are nickle and dime mods that get you the big difference in the end.
Case in point. I've done 3 speed related mods and knock 1/2 sec off of my times . . . each of them a 10th or 2 here and there. And with this mod, the pullies, headers and a couple of other tweaks here and there I'm hoping for another 1/2 sec. That'll put me right at 13.9-14.0 which is faster than most of the earlier Fast and some Super cars like a . . .
2002 Acura NSX 4.8 13.4
2000 Aston Martin DB7 Vantage 5.1 13.6
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2001 BMW 540i 6-Speed 5.5 14.0
2002 BMW M3 4.7 13.4
2002 BMW M5 4.8 13.3
1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 5.0 13.2
1989 Ferrari Testarossa 6.2 14.2
2000 Ford Saleen S281 Supercharged 5.1 13.8
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe 5.5 14.2
1986 Lamborghini Countach 5000S 5.2 13.7
1992 Lamborghini Diablo 4.5 13.3
2002 Lexus GS 430 5.8 14.3
1994 Mazda RX-7 5.3 14.0
2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG 5.0 13.6
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 5.8 14.3
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
1987 Porsche 928 S4 5.5 13.9
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 5.1 13.8
1997 Toyota Supra Turbo 5.1 13.6
All some of the fastest in their days . . and today . . . so every 10th makes a difference.
A stock TL runs in the mid upper 15s . . .
Ruf
As for the 10th here and there . . . that's really how it's done in this business. There are very few big boost items and most are nickle and dime mods that get you the big difference in the end.
Case in point. I've done 3 speed related mods and knock 1/2 sec off of my times . . . each of them a 10th or 2 here and there. And with this mod, the pullies, headers and a couple of other tweaks here and there I'm hoping for another 1/2 sec. That'll put me right at 13.9-14.0 which is faster than most of the earlier Fast and some Super cars like a . . .
2002 Acura NSX 4.8 13.4
2000 Aston Martin DB7 Vantage 5.1 13.6
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2001 BMW 540i 6-Speed 5.5 14.0
2002 BMW M3 4.7 13.4
2002 BMW M5 4.8 13.3
1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 5.0 13.2
1989 Ferrari Testarossa 6.2 14.2
2000 Ford Saleen S281 Supercharged 5.1 13.8
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe 5.5 14.2
1986 Lamborghini Countach 5000S 5.2 13.7
1992 Lamborghini Diablo 4.5 13.3
2002 Lexus GS 430 5.8 14.3
1994 Mazda RX-7 5.3 14.0
2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG 5.0 13.6
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 5.8 14.3
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
1987 Porsche 928 S4 5.5 13.9
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 5.1 13.8
1997 Toyota Supra Turbo 5.1 13.6
All some of the fastest in their days . . and today . . . so every 10th makes a difference.
A stock TL runs in the mid upper 15s . . .
Ruf
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R&T: 04 STi = 4.9 0-60 and 13.3 in the 1/4 mile. Now we have to question RUF's other facts (except that he has beaten all comers in his class at the strip--including my lame ass all but once!).
06-14-2005, 09:40 PM
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Hey Ruf and Trance I was thinking when you two where talking about mods and music. I have to say that TRANCE or music in general have alot to do with our cars. Think about it where do u listen to most of your music AT 
06-14-2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
I have nothing but the most admirable respect for Mark. Each and everytime we've met Ive learned from him. He is a wealth of knowledge about these cars. I now drive my car a little differently (from time to time) thanks to him. Shit, I wasnt even thinkin about performance mods till he started planting seeds in my head. LOL!
And I thought it was my driving that impressed him.
Ruf
06-14-2005, 10:12 PM
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See how RUF is? He knows the first place I'm gonna look is at the STi...
That ain't right, now is it???
That ain't right, now is it???
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06-14-2005, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by InfernoTLS
R&T: 04 STi = 4.9 0-60 and 13.3 in the 1/4 mile. Now we have to question RUF's other facts (except that he has beaten all comers in his class at the strip--including my lame ass all but once!).
As I said, one source and the others could point to better times. The times above are not representative of what the average driver will achieve. Those times are produced by guys who do this day in and day out and beat the snot out of the cars to do it. You yourself found out how hard it is to get even close.
Ah yes . . . . my one and only loss at the track
. . . and what was worse is that you beat me off the line. Ruf
06-14-2005, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by InfernoTLS
So much for the RUF love fest--no more Mr ACL Nice Guy....
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06-14-2005, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by InfernoTLS
RUF, where did this list come from? Car and Driver and Road and Track both have the 04 STi listed as sub-5.0 in the 60 and sub 14.0 in the 1/4 mile. Just wondering.
P.S. Your results may vary (as you know mine have--mostly the driver issue at the strip).
P.S. Your results may vary (as you know mine have--mostly the driver issue at the strip).
Anyway. here's the link to the site with these and many more times.
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
Ruf
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06-14-2005, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
^^^I love you Ruf.
Dang your hide . . . . we had them going and you let them off the hook.
Oh well . . . if I had the $$$$$ I'd have me a really nice sound system too, but speed comes before sound these days.
My old Malibu SS had both . . . the sound came from 2 Rockford Fosgate amps though a passive tuner . . . so clean power coming out of the amps to the speakers. I used to sit in the driveway listening to my tunes and my mother would complain about the walls viberating. When you turned it on it had this really cool"THWOOMP" sound as the speakers were loaded. Then when you turned it off it felt like your ears were being sucked out.
Ah, the good ol days.
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06-14-2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RUF87
Yes, I've seen that report too, but I have encountered an STi on the street and it was a fairly close run . . . a sub 14 car should have taken me easily, but this was within a car length. But I know your modded STi would (should) eat my lunch.
Anyway. here's the link to the site with these and many more times.
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
Ruf
Anyway. here's the link to the site with these and many more times.
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
Ruf
You'll notice the R&T times for the STi as well as the one for the M3 that is 13.2 . . . and more importantly an ACURA is listed ahead of the STi . . . at 13.17
You'll also notice that the 3 fastest are 60s model Muscle Cars
http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm
Ruf
06-14-2005, 10:46 PM
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Hey Ruf and Trance I was thinking when you two where talking about mods and music. I have to say that TRANCE or music in general have alot to do with our cars. Think about it where do u listen to most of your music AT
The only time I turned off the sound was when I was actually racing or going very fast for longer stretches. You got to hear what's going on and focus on the task at hand.
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06-14-2005, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
but regardless of all this Ruf. You definitily know your shit. Im just gonna have to go to the track before I open up my mouth anymore. Next thing I know Ill be there tweakin the CL-P.
Ruf
06-15-2005, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Chopper
Now thats my kind of seating!!!!!
Perfect, I hate big crowds in front of me, or around me for that matter
Perfect, I hate big crowds in front of me, or around me for that matter
06-15-2005, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Blades
Hey ETHAN did ever make those TRANCE DISC
yes sir, they are still in work. my wife just got a new job, she is the chosen one now. you will have them soon my son......................
06-15-2005, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RUF87
All some of the fastest in their days . . and today . . . so every 10th makes a difference.
Ruf
Ruf
That I will never argue with you..........
:whocares: <---------------thats my argument.
06-15-2005, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by InfernoTLS
R&T: 04 STi = 4.9 0-60 and 13.3 in the 1/4 mile. Now we have to question RUF's other facts (except that he has beaten all comers in his class at the strip--including my lame ass all but once!).
^^^example of Rufs point
06-15-2005, 12:47 AM
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Okay Im done. Ruf lets just meet at Bonedaddys and get all of this behind us.
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RUF--I'm not done :smileslikedaleearnhart: yet. I noticed your top two cars on the second list are in the 10.5 times--but nobody else lists those cars at those times. On the first list, I noticed the 2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R was 10.3 in the 1/4 (but try buying one or getting it registered on the street--you can't). I also noticed that Car and Driver lists the fastest street cars 0-60 in 1968 and 1969 as 5.3 and 5.1 respectively. There is no way you can get sub 11 seconds without a sub 4 second 0-60 (prove me wrong), so what gives? If those cars are the drag racing specials that were only available to race teams (much like the C5-R), then they don't count (or, if they do, then we should be able to count the 2002 Lingenfelter Corvette 427 twin turbo that pulled off a mighty 9.24 in the 1/4 mile).
Of course this makes as much sense as debating who would be better in bed, Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Pamala Anderson--each has their strenghts and weaknesses, some are closer to "stock" than others, and there is always the "fun to drive" factor we have to consider! Not to mention that maintenance tends to be a bitch on those models (although checking the oil maybe the most rewarding of any ride out there).
Hey RUF, don't worry 'bout that little bump--it's just racin'....
Cheers!!!!!!
Of course this makes as much sense as debating who would be better in bed, Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Pamala Anderson--each has their strenghts and weaknesses, some are closer to "stock" than others, and there is always the "fun to drive" factor we have to consider! Not to mention that maintenance tends to be a bitch on those models (although checking the oil maybe the most rewarding of any ride out there).
Hey RUF, don't worry 'bout that little bump--it's just racin'....
Cheers!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by trancemission
yes sir, they are still in work. my wife just got a new job, she is the chosen one now. you will have them soon my son......................
06-15-2005, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Blades
BUMP that CHOPPER i will be out there DANCING MY ASS OFF
Good....then you can take my wife and her friends down there. Cuz I know they will want to get close to paul and armin. Chops you and I will get drunk and throw stuff at them.......LOL!
06-15-2005, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RUF87
And I thought it was my driving that impressed him.
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06-15-2005, 08:39 AM
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06-15-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by InfernoTLS
Of course this makes as much sense as debating who would be better in bed, Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Pamala Anderson--each has their strenghts and weaknesses, some are closer to "stock" than others, and there is always the "fun to drive" factor we have to consider! Not to mention that maintenance tends to be a bitch on those models (although checking the oil maybe the most rewarding of any ride out there)
wow.......that is a tough one inferno. Im gonna have to wait for the Brittney sex video before I make my decision.
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you really like that smiley........whats up Treymeister?
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Originally Posted by InfernoTLS
RUF--I'm not done :smileslikedaleearnhart: yet. I noticed your top two cars on the second list are in the 10.5 times--but nobody else lists those cars at those times. On the first list, I noticed the 2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R was 10.3 in the 1/4 (but try buying one or getting it registered on the street--you can't). I also noticed that Car and Driver lists the fastest street cars 0-60 in 1968 and 1969 as 5.3 and 5.1 respectively. There is no way you can get sub 11 seconds without a sub 4 second 0-60 (prove me wrong), so what gives? If those cars are the drag racing specials that were only available to race teams (much like the C5-R), then they don't count (or, if they do, then we should be able to count the 2002 Lingenfelter Corvette 427 twin turbo that pulled off a mighty 9.24 in the 1/4 mile).
Of course this makes as much sense as debating who would be better in bed, Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Pamala Anderson--each has their strenghts and weaknesses, some are closer to "stock" than others, and there is always the "fun to drive" factor we have to consider! Not to mention that maintenance tends to be a bitch on those models (although checking the oil maybe the most rewarding of any ride out there).
Hey RUF, don't worry 'bout that little bump--it's just racin'....
Cheers!!!!!!
Of course this makes as much sense as debating who would be better in bed, Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, or Pamala Anderson--each has their strenghts and weaknesses, some are closer to "stock" than others, and there is always the "fun to drive" factor we have to consider! Not to mention that maintenance tends to be a bitch on those models (although checking the oil maybe the most rewarding of any ride out there).
Hey RUF, don't worry 'bout that little bump--it's just racin'....
Cheers!!!!!!
06-15-2005, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
Okay Im done. Ruf lets just meet at Bonedaddys and get all of this behind us.
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Originally Posted by trancemission
I have nothing but the most admirable respect for Mark. Each and everytime we've met Ive learned from him. He is a wealth of knowledge about these cars. I now drive my car a little differently (from time to time) thanks to him. Shit, I wasnt even thinkin about performance mods till he started planting seeds in my head. LOL!
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Pick your performance measure: 1/8 and 1/4 mile strips, 1.9 and 2.3 mile road course fastest lap, Texas Mile: all right here in Texas to see who has the fastest car. Different cars win each kind of event, so which is the "real" test?
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my problem is i freaking love cars.......i could drive an m45, q45, gs 430, m5, s4, sti, evo, 1994 legend ls type II, skyline, magnum (hemi), grand cherokee (hemi), S6 (bi-turbo), 740i, 1983 landcruiser, shelby cobra kit, or a f-250 (with 450hp chip) and be happy.....
06-15-2005, 09:41 AM
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my problem is i freaking love cars.......i could drive an m45, q45, gs 430, m5, s4, sti, evo, 1994 legend ls type II, skyline, magnum (hemi), grand cherokee (hemi), S6 (bi-turbo), 740i, 1983 landcruiser, shelby cobra kit, or a f-250 (with 450hp chip) and be happy.....