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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor...

... does it work at all? I downloaded it yesterday, left it running overnight, and this morning it was still not finished scanning my computer!

I rebooted, left it running while I washed the car, came back and it was still working. The Task Manager showed zero CPU use... I think the software is buggy.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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vista sucks FYI
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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I guess ur computer is not ready

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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bigblazinboot
I guess ur computer is not ready

No soup for you!!!
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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I dont want soup, i want SiempreSucio
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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What are the specs on you computer.
I have run it on multiple machines, all the way down to a dell GX150 and it ran fine

Originally Posted by joshrsmith2411
vista sucks FYI

Real useful.
Have you used it at all, or are you just a mac person.

As I have stated in other threads I have been using it for 6 months and it is much better then XP. And I plan on installing it on one of my machines as soon as it goes RTM which should be Nov 8 (actually it will have to wait until just before Thanksgiving as I will be in India when It comes out.)
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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I have been dual booting XP and Vista RC2. Vista is such a resource hog compared to XP. My hard drive is always doing something I'm running Vista, even when I'm just idling. And there are still many bugs so I'm prolly not gonna get it til they release SP1.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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vista = unecessary at this point.

even if I had a bleeding-edge computer right now - I would run XP on it.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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There is nothing in XP that I do that I don't think Windows 2000 couldn't do.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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It is baking all of your cookies and sending them them MS.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
As I have stated in other threads I have been using it for 6 months and it is much better then XP. And I plan on installing it on one of my machines as soon as it goes RTM which should be Nov 8 (actually it will have to wait until just before Thanksgiving as I will be in India when It comes out.)
I thought only the volume licensing builds were going to RTM in November.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
There is nothing in XP that I do that I don't think Windows 2000 couldn't do.
Does MS still support 2000?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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The upgrade advisor worked for me....
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Does MS still support 2000?
no, they just droped suport for xp sp1 also. and fyi vista runs great for me much faster than xp if you have the ram 2gigs seems to work good but i uped to 4 gigs dual chanal and silky smooth only use about 1 gig at startup with pagefile turned off on rc2 x64, but the advister shouldnt take all night it ran in about 2 min for me so somthing is up with your system. oh and the hard drive mooving alot is superfetch if im not mistakin, and it can be anoying when my raid starts werlin up at once.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 02:47 AM
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Would vista make me browse the internet faster? Cuz that be neat.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
What are the specs on you computer.
I have run it on multiple machines, all the way down to a dell GX150 and it ran fine




Real useful.
Have you used it at all, or are you just a mac person.

As I have stated in other threads I have been using it for 6 months and it is much better then XP. And I plan on installing it on one of my machines as soon as it goes RTM which should be Nov 8 (actually it will have to wait until just before Thanksgiving as I will be in India when It comes out.)
No man I hate macs, well dont hate them its just I have become accoustomed to windows and I guess I just dont like change. But I am dual booting XP and Vista, as of now Vista is a big pain in my butt. Driver problems software problems... not that vista doesnt work software being 3rd party, games apps etc. I really like the side bar thingy(dont know what its called.) But like others have said Vista is a resource hog, more so than XP which I used to think was bad coming from 98 and 2000 pro. I do like the solitare game on Vista though... lol. When more drivers and software comes out that supports Vista I will prob use it more but for now it sucks compared to XP. I go to K-State and our IT department wont support it and says they will never use it on any of their machines on campus. Sorry if I offended you but I just dont like Vista.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Billi
I thought only the volume licensing builds were going to RTM in November.
No both are, since they are the exact same code. This will give more developers and hardware manufacturers time to develop drivers for Vista. Since they are still kind of thin.

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Does MS still support 2000?
Yes they do, look at the Microsquish support site, it is now in what is called extended support, now only critcal patches are released, this will continue until 2010.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...edsupport.mspx
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by joshrsmith2411
No man I hate macs, well dont hate them its just I have become accoustomed to windows and I guess I just dont like change. But I am dual booting XP and Vista, as of now Vista is a big pain in my butt. Driver problems software problems... not that vista doesnt work software being 3rd party, games apps etc. I really like the side bar thingy(dont know what its called.) But like others have said Vista is a resource hog, more so than XP which I used to think was bad coming from 98 and 2000 pro. I do like the solitare game on Vista though... lol. When more drivers and software comes out that supports Vista I will prob use it more but for now it sucks compared to XP. I go to K-State and our IT department wont support it and says they will never use it on any of their machines on campus. Sorry if I offended you but I just dont like Vista.
The licensing of Vista sucks and it will PISS OFF EVERONE. But to the driver and software problem, will get better once it goes RTM. A lot of programs don't work now as they were always doing illegal things that there was no protection againts, well now Microsoft has enabled that protection and it pissed off all the people that were doing the illegal things. They now have to write their software correctly, this will do 2 things, stop a lot of th BSOD's and also cut back on the amount and destructive power of viruses.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Does MS still support 2000?
MS is usually on a 6 year cycle. Because of this they were supposed to drop support for Win2k this year (June I think).

Having written that... I have Win2k on an old laptop at home and they were still including Win2k security updates through the October Windows Update batch - so yes they are still supporting it as of this point - just don't try to call and open a trouble ticket with them for it I guess...
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
No both are, since they are the exact same code. This will give more developers and hardware manufacturers time to develop drivers for Vista. Since they are still kind of thin.
Source? I have not seen anything in the trade rags that indicates the retail build will be available in November. Everything I have seen states that the reatil build will hit in January or possibly February. If the retail build is going to be ready at the same time, why would Microsoft deliberately hold it back until after the holiday season?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
...They now have to write their software correctly, this will do 2 things, stop a lot of th BSOD's and also cut back on the amount and destructive power of viruses.
When is the last time you got a BSOD without there being a hardware problem?

I haven't had a BSOD since Windows NT. I agree with above comments about Windows Vista not being necessary for work machines. I came from a manufacturing and law firm background and ever since Win2k the enhancements for business computing - the way people do it in the real world - have been minimal.

WinXP was nice in that it was faster to boot and had some other speed enhancements - like client side DNS cacheing, etc., but the main selling point for Windows Vista is Aero.

Don't get me wrong - I'll probably buy it and use it at home, but at work for a purchasing agent using Oracle - or a paralegal hammering away on her keyboard this is not worth spending your money on.

Most savvy companies have learned to ride out the desktop OS until there's no more support for it because they know the cost and upheaval that will be done to productivity when they introduce the new OS to the workers. It's a huge pill to swallow for any organization - from purchasing equipment to training personnel. They also know that for their application the new OS brings relatively little increased benefit to the table.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fla-tls
MS is usually on a 6 year cycle. Because of this they were supposed to drop support for Win2k this year (June I think).

Having written that... I have Win2k on an old laptop at home and they were still including Win2k security updates through the October Windows Update batch - so yes they are still supporting it as of this point - just don't try to call and open a trouble ticket with them for it I guess...
That's what I was wondering, if they're still dropping updates for it. I used it a couple years back in an old machine. Liked it MUCH better than Me. Well I guess a bullet to the head is better than Me.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fla-tls
When is the last time you got a BSOD without there being a hardware problem?
I have gotten quite a few because of shitty drivers (Xerox and HP printer drivers) have caused me quite a few headaches.
I had one driver from Xerox that every 3rd print job I would send to the network printer would BS my machine.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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I do not think that I will upgrade to vista until someone somehow forces me to.

1 gig to 10 gigs with no major feature upgrades that are important to me
They dropped WinFS making it (still) the only OS without journaling file system
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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I have one computer with SP1, and the software it runs is not compatible with SP2. I'm waiting on word from the company on Vista compatibility.

The computer I ran the software from MS has specs twice as good as the min requirements, so it should be good to go (Win XP SP2).
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Python2121
They dropped WinFS making it (still) the only OS without journaling file system
What is that?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
I have gotten quite a few because of shitty drivers (Xerox and HP printer drivers) have caused me quite a few headaches.
I had one driver from Xerox that every 3rd print job I would send to the network printer would BS my machine.
That shouldn't happen with a type 3 driver. Back in WinNT days all we had were type 2 drivers which operated in kernel mode. With the intro of Win2K they introduced type 3 (user mode) drivers. A user mode driver should never be able to cause a BSOD - the worst it should be able to do is lock up a users session. That's why they are the only thing you should put on a terminal server or citrix server. A crashed type 2 driver could bring down a server like that... A crashed type 3 generally involves resetting a users session.

The problem with type 3 drivers was that they typically weren't very pretty - with the nice GUIs of the type 2 drivers.
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